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Old 08-16-2011, 06:24 PM   #1
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Alfred ain't gettin no love, and that ain't sexy playa.

Alfred, realistically, is the rock in these movies. Nolan's films are essentially about how a butler deals with a psychotic employer, but for whom he has a fatherly affection.

He is the fulcrum around which these films revolve.

What are people's views on Alfred's fate???

My two cent? There is no way he dies. Also. I bet he gets to drive one of the cool vehicles.

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Old 08-16-2011, 09:04 PM   #2
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There should be more scenes like this

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Old 08-16-2011, 09:07 PM   #3
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I'm sure there's already a thread for this, it's just buried somewhere.

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Old 08-17-2011, 09:03 AM   #4
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I like Michael Caine and, although I like him as Alfred, I still can't get past his cockney accent (not dissing the accent itself, just saying that the Alfred I'm used to doesn't have one). Other than that, he's awesome!

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I like Michael Caine and, although I like him as Alfred, I still can't get past his cockney accent (not dissing the accent itself, just saying that the Alfred I'm used to doesn't have one). Other than that, he's awesome!
Which Alfred are you used to, then?


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Old 08-17-2011, 09:08 AM   #6
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Fact: Alfred is the Yoda of this Batman series.

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Old 08-17-2011, 09:19 AM   #7
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I'll always remember Mr. Caine as Alfred because of this scene instead.

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I like Michael Caine and, although I like him as Alfred, I still can't get past his cockney accent (not dissing the accent itself, just saying that the Alfred I'm used to doesn't have one). Other than that, he's awesome!
There's actually quite a subtle change in Alfred's voice in the two films. The older he gets, the further he gets from his military years the more loose and the more 'cockney' he gets. Check out the early scenes in 'Begins' especially when he welcomes Bruce back from Princeton, it's quite a posh English accent, much closer to the stereotypical English butler.

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I love Caine's Alfred. He brings so much amount of warmth, wiseness and humor to these films.

Infact one of my favorite things about these films are the reoccurring characters around Batman and the quality of them in terms of writing and acting. Alfred, Gordon and Lucius all feels like my friends and I can't wait to see them again in new classic scenes in TDKR.

My favorite scene with Alfred is probably the one after Rachel's death. Both Caine and Bale make such heartfelt, understated and brilliant performances in this scene. It's beautifully composed visually too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R0oaHF2hDY

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A tangerine... the size of a tangerine.

The bandit was the tangerine.

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My favorite scenes are where he says NEVAH

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A tangerine... the size of a tangerine.

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I love Caine's Alfred. He brings so much amount of warmth, wiseness and humor to these films.

Infact one of my favorite things about these films are the reoccurring characters around Batman and the quality of them in terms of writing and acting. Alfred, Gordon and Lucius all feels like my friends and I can't wait to see them again in new classic scenes in TDKR.

My favorite scene with Alfred is probably the one after Rachel's death. Both Caine and Bale make such heartfelt, understated and brilliant performances in this scene. It's beautifully composed visually too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R0oaHF2hDY


I too love that scene and the way it's acted. I can't help but notice the uncanny similarities between it and the ones from BB, specifically the one of young Bruce following his parents' funeral(which is really similar to this one) and the one following their escape from the burning Manor. I love the way Alfred manages to make Bruce believe in himself again every time he 'falls'. He's practically the only person Bruce can count on no matter what. Love the way the Bruce-Alfred relationship has been handled in Nolan's movies and I also like that Alfred's one of the characters that always lightens up the atmosphere with his humor, along with Lucius.

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Old 08-17-2011, 12:38 PM   #13
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In BB and TDK, Alfred's character has been written to develop these sort of word-play exchanges with Bruce that always come back and are referenced later in the movie.

Example: Why do we fall? / You still haven't given up on me... Nevah / etc...

TDK: The bandit story / Today you get to say I told you so / Today I don't want to etc...

Good writing from Nolan. I expect to see more of these exchanges in TDKR.

Actually a lot of Nolan's movies have that circularity in the dialogue (i.e., Didn't you get the memo? / Nice coat) ... in The Prestige there's a scene where Caine's character tells Jackman's character about drowning being like going home. Later it comes back and Caine reveals that it is actually "agony" ...plus the "every magic trick consists of three parts" narration is repeated, but its meaning has changed by the film's end. This writing technique exists in every Nolan movie.

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I love Caine's Alfred. He brings so much amount of warmth, wiseness and humor to these films.

Infact one of my favorite things about these films are the reoccurring characters around Batman and the quality of them in terms of writing and acting. Alfred, Gordon and Lucius all feels like my friends and I can't wait to see them again in new classic scenes in TDKR.

My favorite scene with Alfred is probably the one after Rachel's death. Both Caine and Bale make such heartfelt, understated and brilliant performances in this scene. It's beautifully composed visually too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R0oaHF2hDY
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Old 08-17-2011, 01:28 PM   #15
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Hmmmm. Who else could play Alfred...

I'm struggling. Michael Douglas?!

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Alfred backstory: http://batman-news.com/2011/06/10/mi...reakfast-show/
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Thomas Wayne went to an SAS HQ for a dinner. Alfred was there, he was a sergeant in the SAS who had been wounded but didnt want to leave the army so he had stayed on to ran the mess there.
Wayne said "You'd make a great butler, I need a tough guy"
This is the most interesting part of his character and I really want to know more and more about Alfreds earlier life in the SAS. That would make a great animated short to tie in with Rises hehe.

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This is the most interesting part of his character and I really want to know more and more about Alfreds earlier life in the SAS. That would make a great animated short to tie in with Rises hehe.
Yeah, it's cool how Caine came up with his own backstory for this version of Alfred.

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I love Caine's Alfred. He brings so much amount of warmth, wiseness and humor to these films.

Infact one of my favorite things about these films are the reoccurring characters around Batman and the quality of them in terms of writing and acting. Alfred, Gordon and Lucius all feels like my friends and I can't wait to see them again in new classic scenes in TDKR.

My favorite scene with Alfred is probably the one after Rachel's death. Both Caine and Bale make such heartfelt, understated and brilliant performances in this scene. It's beautifully composed visually too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R0oaHF2hDY
I love how that scene mirrors the scene in Begins after the funeral...

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Love Caine's Alfred. Best yet, by far. He brings wit, levity, intelligence, strength, and more importantly heart to these films.

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Hmmmm. Who else could play Alfred...

I'm struggling. Michael Douglas?!
Ew naw!
This thread reminds me of tangerines!!

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Alfred is definitely my favorite thing about this trilogy, other than Gordon.

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That tangerine YouTube video has almost ruined that scene in the Dark Knight for me. I snicker almost every time now.

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Michael Caine is a damn legend. His Alfred is brilliant. He has the same sort of wit and charm like in the comics. He's also very heartfelt caring.

I love the cockney accent.

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Best Alfred in the movies, no point in arguing.

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