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Old 10-14-2010, 01:11 PM   #76
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Old 10-16-2010, 10:02 AM   #77
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It was mostly due to studio interference that third comic movies such as SM3 and X3 weren't on par with their predecessors. As long as WB stays out of Nolan's way I think he'll deliver a solid third film.

For instance if he doesn't want the movie in 3D, WB should respect his wishes and not force it upon him. This type of thing could cause him to bail(no pun intended) and we get some hack/yes man who screws everything up.
Let's not forget to add Blade 3 to that list as well. I would be pleasantly surprise if Batman 3 doesn't fall for the 3rd movie curse. We have never gotten a truly awesome superhero trilogy, to date. here's keeping my fingers crossed.

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Old 10-27-2010, 07:21 AM   #78
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Blade Trinity is one movie that I feel could have benefitted from some interference. It seems to me that when Goyer was given complete autonomy that's when things went wrong.

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Old 07-19-2011, 12:56 PM   #79
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Last week a movie reviewer said he's seen the first 30 minutes of the film. He said Nolan has really outdone himself given the high bar he set for TDK.

Both he and Morgan Freeman said the opening sceen will "Blow your mind." and "Bring the crowd to their feet."

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Old 07-19-2011, 07:39 PM   #80
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Last week a movie reviewer said he's seen the first 30 minutes of the film. He said Nolan has really outdone himself given the high bar he set for TDK.

Both he and Morgan Freeman said the opening sceen will "Blow your mind." and "Bring the crowd to their feet."
I doubt anyone seen the first 30 minutes but I have heard that the opening sequence is amazing.

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Old 07-20-2011, 12:54 AM   #81
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I doubt anyone seen the first 30 minutes but I have heard that the opening sequence is amazing.
so we could be getting a prologue trailer then cuz the opening sequence for TDK was amazing

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Old 07-20-2011, 01:18 AM   #82
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I think that The Dark Knight Rises will do great, and definitely wonít be apart of this Ďcurseí, but then again, Iím also someone who didnít hate Spider-man 3... I didnít love it, but I didnít hate it.

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Old 07-20-2011, 01:23 AM   #83
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I think that The Dark Knight Rises can do it, and I think it will. Then again, I thought Spider-Man 3 was going to do so, and look how turned out.

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Old 07-20-2011, 07:27 AM   #84
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Nolan stands a better chance than most.

Not to mention that he's yet to make a bad film, knock on wood.

That said, I think expectations from the main-stream will be too high from Dark Knight. They'll be expecting something superior and so, if we get something "on par" or "near par" it'll be viewed as a disappointment while really not being such.

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Nolan stands a better chance than most.

Not to mention that he's yet to make a bad film, knock on wood.

That said, I think expectations from the main-stream will be too high from Dark Knight. They'll be expecting something superior and so, if we get something "on par" or "near par" it'll be viewed as a disappointment while really not being such.
Completely agree. With the fans, I think if it isn't better than "The Dark Knight", then it may be regarded as being worse than "Batman & Robin".

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Probably right.

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Old 08-06-2011, 12:33 AM   #87
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Gotta admit that I'm still skeptical at this point.

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Old 08-08-2011, 07:06 PM   #88
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Though TDK is arguably more epic in scale than Begins, there's no question that Nolan has pre-planned this trilogy from the day he was hired and envisioned every chapter of this story on a large scale.
Completely untrue.

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Just off the top of my head I can't think of many "thirds" that are great. Indiana Jones maybe, seeing as how it's no longer a part of a trilogy. Are we counting final movies in trilogies? Back to the Future 3 was pretty good.

I hope Nolan's breaks the RECENT curse of hero thirds that suck (Last Stand, Blade 3)...

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Most of the best third films tend to follow a second film that wasn't as popular (ex. Indiana Jones, Harry Potter). The only two series that I can think of that had what is generally considered to be a classic as the second film and then went above and beyond that for third, which is what will have to be done for Batman, are James Bond (which had From Russia with Love and followed up with Goldfinger) and The Dollars Trilogy (which had For a Few Dollars More and followed it with The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly). I personally think that Return of the King was better than The Two Towers, but that doesn't seem to be the consensus so I won't count it.

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It'll probably be like the original Star Wars trilogy. The first film was good, the second was the best by a million miles and the third is just good with some great moments.

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He's home and dry. The new movie looks real promising. No studio interference to muck it up either.

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Just off the top of my head I can't think of many "thirds" that are great. Indiana Jones maybe, seeing as how it's no longer a part of a trilogy. Are we counting final movies in trilogies? Back to the Future 3 was pretty good.

I hope Nolan's breaks the RECENT curse of hero thirds that suck (Last Stand, Blade 3)...
The Bourne Ultimatum.

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I'm sure that Batman will escape the "Third Act Curse". The problem with comic book trilogies seems to be that they wanna put as much characters/villains as possible in it. X-Men 3 wasted / killed off so many interesting mutants, it's not funny.
For TDKR we have Bane. And Catwoman who may not be a "real" villain at all.
Even Two-Face wasn't a real villain in TDK.

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Most of the best third films tend to follow a second film that wasn't as popular (ex. Indiana Jones, Harry Potter). The only two series that I can think of that had what is generally considered to be a classic as the second film and then went above and beyond that for third, which is what will have to be done for Batman, are James Bond (which had From Russia with Love and followed up with Goldfinger) and The Dollars Trilogy (which had For a Few Dollars More and followed it with The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly). I personally think that Return of the King was better than The Two Towers, but that doesn't seem to be the consensus so I won't count it.
This does NOT apply to the comic book genre. I think by & large the 2nd installment of a comic book franchise is the MOST popular.

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This does NOT apply to the comic book genre. I think by & large the 2nd installment of a comic book franchise is the MOST popular.
I think the "Second Act Blessing" may be just as interesting to discuss as the "Third Act Curse", in my opinion.

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I think you're right, Godzilla. Truth be told, it may be a contributing factor TO the "Third Act Curse".

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I think you're right, Godzilla. Truth be told, it may be a contributing factor TO the "Third Act Curse".
I think it is, at least indirectly, as it contributes to the heightened expectations for the third installment.

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That's what I meant. You raise the bar and have no idea how you're going to clear it.

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That's what I meant. You raise the bar and have no idea how you're going to clear it.
True, though the strange part is that more often is the third "not as good as the first two" than it is "not as good as the second, but better than the first". Why? I don't know.

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