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Old 09-13-2011, 11:19 AM   #126
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Warner Brothers didn't want Tim Burton to do another Batman movie, but they did give Tim Burton the opportunity to make a Catwoman spin-off movie instead.
''The Catwoman movie is just a whole new concept, completely open for Tim's creative vision,'' said Tim Burton's spokeswoman in 1993. Michelle Pfeiffer added: ''I would love to do it. Catwoman breaks just about every taboo.''
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In June 16, 1995 Batman Returns script writer Daniel Waters finished writing the script, which picks up after the events of Batman Returns for the Catwoman spin-off movie that Warner Brothers said they were willing to allow Tim Burton to make instead of Batman 3. Daniel Waters said in 1995, "I just finished a script for Catwoman. I turned it in last Friday. It's her movie. And Tim [Burton] is supposedly going to direct it. I'm just getting response from the script now. Of course, turning it in the day Batman Forever opened may not have been my best logistical move, in that it's the celebration of the fun-for-the-whole-family Batman and Catwoman is definitely not a fun-for-the-whole-family script. After the traumas of the second film she has amnesia, and she doesn't really remember why she has all these bullet holes in her body, so she goes to relax in Oasisburg. What Gotham City is to New York, Oasisburg is to Las Vegas- Los Angeles-Palm Springs. [It's a] resort area in the middle of the desert. It's run by a team of superheroes, and the movie has great fun at making fun at the whole male superhero mythos. You can tell my heart is with Catwoman trying to always poke fun at Batman, but it ended up that that annoyed people. But now I've got free rein since Catwoman is my lead, so I have these superheroes who are really so good you hate them. Then they end up being not very good at all deep down, and she's got to go back to that whole Catwoman thing."
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Here is Daniel Waters' Catwoman script:
http://www.scifiscripts.com/scripts/catwoman.txt
Warner Brothers ultimately decided to reject Daniel Waters' Batman Returns spin-off Catwoman script, and it became clear that the Daniel Waters/Tim Burton/Michelle Pfeiffer Catwoman spin-off movie wasn't going to happen.
In November 27, 2000 Theresa Rebeck finished a Catwoman script creating a new Catwoman named Patience Price.
http://www.impossiblefunky.com/archi...0That%20Roared
In 2001 it was announced that Ashley Judd would be replacing Michelle Pfeiffer.
http://www.filmfodder.com/mt-weblog/...s/000908.shtml
In 2002 Warner Brothers signed on a french visual effects worker, who calls himself Pitof, as the director, replacing Tim Burton.
http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/1284.html
Michelle Pfeiffer said that her interest in the film ended when she found out Tim Burton would not be directing. She explained, "Studios like change and there's always a new person playing Batman. Tim Burton isn't involved in the new Catwoman film and I wanted to do it with him. For me, it was really his vision that made it so special."
http://www.bollywoodsargam.com/shown...tory=972027351
In February 11, 2003 John Brancato, Michael Ferris and John Rogers finished another script where the new Catwoman was renamed Patience Phillips and has magical cat-powers.
In 2003 Ashley Judd turned down the role and made her Broadway musical debut as Maggie in the play Cat on a Hot Tin Roof instead.
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,424200,00.html
Producers Edward McDonnell and Denise DiNovi quickly approached Nicole Kidman, but she wisely wanted to see the latest script before making any decisions.
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,419452,00.html
After reading the script, Nicole Kidman turned down the role. "It's all about, 'Is this artistically worthy?'" she said. "Otherwise, I'd prefer being with my family."
http://www.nicolekidmanunited.com/Ar...402/index.html
Halle Berry quickly accepted the role of Patience Phillips.
http://www.people.com/people/article...625641,00.html

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Old 09-13-2011, 12:45 PM   #127
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Ashley Judd as Catwoman huh?

hmmm....i could definately picture that

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Old 09-13-2011, 12:56 PM   #128
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I don't have patience to read the script now, who's the villain there?

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Old 09-13-2011, 02:22 PM   #129
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Ashley Judd as Catwoman huh?

hmmm....i could definately picture that
Why am I spanking my head over that?

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That's a shame. A Catwoman film with Pfeiffer and Burton teaming up has so much potential.

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And so the mystery of the degradation of Catwoman is solved.

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Old 09-13-2011, 05:09 PM   #132
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None of that was a mystery to me.

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I don't have patience to read the script now, who's the villain there?
The villains turn out to be the apparent superheroes calling themselves the Cult of Good. Led by Captain God (secretly architect Brock Leviathan), who speaks through a Darth Vaderesque voicebox to disguise his voice, the Cult of Good are Captain God, Cactus, Spooky, Adonis and Mammoth. A group of fake superheroes who go from city to city and appear to be fighting crime in front of spectators so they can be fawned over by the adoring public, and use this image of heroism as a front for their criminal activity - receiving protection kickbacks from the crime syndicates, merchandising scams, and they have a plan to steal the most valuable collection of diamonds ever brought together at one time and one place in the Frank's Fun Palace Casino and blow up the Casino with a bomb, killing all of the witnesses locked inside, and then moving on to the next city. Selina Kyle's black cat leads Selina to the Cult of Good's hideout and she learns they're villains masquerading as heroes and the villainous Catwoman must heroically stop them. Warner Brothers didn't want Batman in the Catwoman film, so the script doesn't take place in Gotham City, and instead takes place in Oasisburg, where Selina Kyle's mother lives and Selina has moved there, a place which Daniel Waters describes as a cross-between Las Vegas, Los Angeles and Palm Springs.

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Im glad that Catwoman film never got made, it sounds awful.

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I'm disappointed that neither Tim Burton's Batman 3 or the Daniel Waters/Tim Burton/Michelle Pfeiffer Catwoman spin-off movie film ever got made, they both look like great fun for me. I enjoyed reading Daniel Waters Catwoman script and with Tim Burton directing, starring Michelle Pfeiffer and featuring the return of her Catwoman, it would have definitely been a lot fun for me. There's a lot more in Daniel Waters Catwoman script than the little I wrote.

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WATERS RUNS DEEP
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Daniel Waters's draft of Catwoman picks up after the events of BATMAN RETURNS. Dropping the Gotham City setting, Waters has moved Selina Kyle to Oasisburg, a neo-Vegas hellhole where people drive golf carts instead of cars and the city has more tourists than residents. Selina lives with her mother, working as a wage slave at Frank's Fun Palace, the tackiest of the city's casinos. Most significantly though, Selina has no memory of her life as Catwoman.
When we first see Selina, she's in a "self-help" meeting conducted by Penelope Snuggle, a "post-feminist" and author of The Catwoman Complex. It's Snuggle's conviction that women in power are the most dangerous people in the world and they all need to embrace the typical subservient role that society has set down for them. Before Selina can escape, Oasisburg's protective superteam, the Cult of Good, interrupts the meeting. Led by Captain God, the Cult of Good is a collection of superhero clichés that make fighting crime a spectator sport. The women in the support group fawn like little girls over the superheroes while Selina tries desperately to ignore it all.
Yet, Selina can't run away from her surroundings or her past. A lone black cat follows her and a strange old hag sets up a hut outside Selina's mother's house. When the cat leads Selina to the Cult of Good's hideout and she learns they're actually evil, it isn't long before Catwoman is reborn.
And while all of this may seem a little typical (if somewhat bizarre) that's merely the first act in one of the weirdest scripts (comic book adaptation or otherwise) ever written. Before the script is even halfway through, the idea of Catwoman has infected almost the entire female population of Oasisburg, causing them to create their own Catwoman costumes and storm out in the streets creating mayhem as they rail against their male dominated society.
Screenwriter Daniel Waters worked hard in BATMAN RETURNS to make Catwoman more dynamic than just another antagonist for Batman to knock around. By starting her off as a timid almost self-loathing woman Waters turned her into the proverbial mouse that roared when she donned the cat ears and picked up the whip. And here he takes the idea of her as the ultimate symbol of female empowerment to the nth degree. Rather than just stop with Catwoman as a symbol Waters goes on to show the danger of an unfocused revolution. As the reluctant cause of the uprising, Catwoman has to come to grips in the end that she has a responsibility as a role model.
Through all the layers Waters keeps the story moving. In addition to having to deal with the not-so-good Cult of Good, Selina also has two love interests: Brock Leviathan and Lewis Lane, one of whom is almost certainly Captain God. There are several funny and self-reflexive moments where Selina tries to play detective when talking to the men only to end up more confused than she was before.
The script continues to build to the inevitable conclusion between the Cult of Good and Catwoman and her army of Catwomen. When it's time, Waters's doesn't skimp on the action but he never lets it get in the way of the characters.
While Daniel Waters's draft of Catwoman breaks the cardinal rule of following the comic book, it does respect the continuity created by BATMAN RETURNS. But even more, the script shrewdly uses the idea of the character as a springboard to bigger concepts. What ends up being so impressive is how much Waters goes for and actually achieves. The script celebrates and criticizes the male ego, the feminist movement, superheroes and the clichés of most typical action films. It's no surprise that the studio passed on this draft. It's too cerebral, surreal and smart to spend $100 million dollars on. I mean, this is just supposed to be about a chick in a leather outfit right?
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I don't know, a Catwoman film without at least a hint of Batman in there just dosen't seem like Catwoman to me. Also as much as I absolutely adore BR, I dont really think Waters is that great of a writer.

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Im glad that Catwoman film never got made, it sounds awful.
It was going to be better than the the crap we got starring Halle Berri

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Well I agree with you on that one but I find them both to be uninteresting unnecessary films. Wb must have been on crack to release that bs piece of garbage sorry excuse for a Catwoman film in the first place.

As soon as the main characters name was no longer Selina Kyle I boycotted it.

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I don't know, a Catwoman film without at least a hint of Batman in there just dosen't seem like Catwoman to me.
There have been many Selina Kyle/Catwoman stories in the comics without Batman appearing in them and some Selina Kyle/Catwoman stories have taken place outside of Gotham. And while Batman doesn't make a physical appearance in the Catwoman script by Daniel Waters, the script does pick up after the events of Batman Returns, there is definitely a hint of Batman's existence in this Catwoman spin-off script, as Batman is referenced and Gotham City is both referenced and seen.

"CACTUS:

Ooh, I've read about this philly.
She's the one who gave that wimp
Batman all those migraines up in
Gotham..."

And Selina Kyle/Catwoman is in Gotham City in the beginning of the script.

"A SNOWY PATCH OF GOTHAM CITY--NIGHT

Coming out of the darkness, the viewer's viewpoint glides across
a moonlit blanket of snow toward the cry of the wounded feline."

And she also has a flashback to Gotham City.

"SNOWY PATCH OF GOTHAM CITY--NIGHT

Again, the viewer glides across the snow of Gotham City, joining
Selina in the Catwoman outfit is
writhing on the white ground, bloodied and bruised."
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I understand your point manbat its just not something I would have been that interested in seeing especially if written by Waters.

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That actually sounds interesting. Wacky, but very cool. I could see Burton doing that. I should read it when it get the time.

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Well I agree with you on that one but I find them both to be uninteresting unnecessary films. Wb must have been on crack to release that bs piece of garbage sorry excuse for a Catwoman film in the first place.

As soon as the main characters name was no longer Selina Kyle I boycotted it.
I wondered if they had a new Catwoman in comics, was a hit by a truck when I saw there's none

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Ashley Judd as Catwoman huh?

hmmm....i could definately picture that
Oh damn!

I totally remember that now... and this was in my teen heyday of being in love with Ashley Judd.

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Well I agree with you on that one but I find them both to be uninteresting unnecessary films. Wb must have been on crack to release that bs piece of garbage sorry excuse for a Catwoman film in the first place.

As soon as the main characters name was no longer Selina Kyle I boycotted it.
Wow. Somehow I never got far enough into the flick to even know that her name wasn't Selina Kyle... And I'm okay with it

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I have never watched the film or more than the trailer prior to the films release and im sure I never will.

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The film looks like a lame excuse to showcase an eye-candy.

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The idea for the villains in the Burton Catwoman movie sounds good but the names are laying it on a tad thick...Captain God and the Cult of Good?

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