Black Panther Solo Film!

[DrCosmic]

Originally Posted by tamron

Yea, Copley is definitely in character actor territory to general audiences.

As far as age, once Klaw's made of pure sound, would he really age? Maybe we just go from his fight with T'Chaka and amputation, to him returning years later, looking the same, but with powers unbeknownst to T'Challa and the audience until the reveal, thus making "aging" him a non-issue.

I don't know that I would make him made of sound. Perhaps he would be turned into pure sound as the climactic ending to set up for his return, but for tellability's sake, he'd be a flesh and blood amputee for the story.

[T"Challa]

Originally Posted by DrCosmic

MCD would own, and I also like the idea of M'Baka being a contemporary of T'Chaka, lending to the traditionalism thing.

I honestly don't have a really good suggestion for Klaw. Jason Isaacs was the best I could come up with, but I liked the suggestions of people like Viggo Mortensen and Liam Nesson, though it's unlikely that those guys would go for villains, which I guess kinda raises the problem with the idea of big name villains. So... maybe it's not possible, but it's something on my mind, I guess.

I doubt they'd be against it if the script was good enough. Neeson has already played a villain in a CBM before its not like its new ground. Viggo strikes me as the kind of actor who would love to challenge himself with different roles. If they could write Klaw as a really sinister villain and imbibe him with depth, i could see it happening with Viggo.

[DrCosmic]

That's true. They got Jeff Bridges for Iron Man, I suppose they could do something very similar with Black Panther. Viggo would be really good, and it's true, he does have a lot of diverse roles.

Klaw does need an upgrade, motivation-wise, or pathos-wise or something. Maybe a really sharp and cold businessman, frustrated by T'challa and T'Chaka's refusal to 'get with the times' and 'play ball.' He thinks he can manipulate T'Challa at first, and finds that he really can't.

[Captain Marvel]

Ugh, no more businessmen, please, it's tired. Bad enough that Doom got turned into a corporate mogul. Do we really need to see the same from Klaw of all people?

[DrCosmic]

I mean, that's the best I could come up with. Whaddya got? What's a better villain angle for Klaw? Running on just 'revenge cuz you took my hand as I killed your father' is a bit... trite. Captain Hook-ish even.

[Chewy]

T'Challa: Aldis Hodge


T'Chaka: Denzel Washington


Klaw: Sean Bean


M'Baku: Michael Clarke Duncan


N'Gassi: Joe Morton


Shuri: Jessica Lucas

[DrCosmic]

That's pretty danged spot on Chewy! KUDOS!


It's hard not to want to add everyone in there. Peter Menah as S'yan, Kerry Washington as Nakia, Alan Tudyk as Everett Ross... man. Someone make this movie.

[ЯɘvlveR]

djimon hounsou was born to be Black Panther.

[Nightwing]

Originally Posted by Chewy

T'Challa: Aldis Hodge


T'Chaka: Denzel Washington


Klaw: Sean Bean


M'Baku: Michael Clarke Duncan


N'Gassi: Joe Morton


Shuri: Jessica Lucas

You officially win this thread.

Seriously, Bean is a great choice for Klaw and his age would go well with the film's timeline. Plus his popularity has risen due to Game of Thrones.

Originally Posted by DrCosmic

That's pretty danged spot on Chewy! KUDOS!


It's hard not to want to add everyone in there. Peter Menah as S'yan, Kerry Washington as Nakia, Alan Tudyk as Everett Ross... man. Someone make this movie.

THIS x 100.

Make it happen Marvel.

[DrCosmic]

Indeed, I think they're trying to, they've certainly hired writers to do so. I think the challenge is finding the right story. And honestly, if you have a great story then a lot of people will be interested in making it, otherwise, you may not be able to get anyone.

Any thoughts on story? Origin (Spider-Man, Batman Begins)? Already established (Blade, Batman 89)? Love Interest? Something more Hudlin's run? Priest's? Stan Lee's? More along the lines of EMH or Ultimate Avengers 2?

I'd like to hear what you guys' thoughts were on that.

[tamron]

Priest's run, without a doubt.

Cherry pick the best of everything, where you can, but if I can choose only one, no doubt that's it.

[DrCosmic]

A bit off topic, where can I find Priest's run? I keep hearing good stuff, but haven't seen much of it myself. Is there a TPB or anything?

[MessiahDecoy123]

I was looking at the biggest blockbuster with a black actor as the main star and only Will Smith can bring in the big numbers worldwide.

A Black Panther movie with a 150 m budget would need at least 400 m worldwide to break even. Only Will Smith can achieve this.

and as much as I'd love to cast a younger, more regal actor, the studio is not going to greenlight a Black Panther movie unless they are certain they have a good chance at getting their money's worth.

and after thinking about it, if Will Smith keeps his mask on, he has the right physique and I wouldn't mind seeing him next to Robert Downey Jr in Avengers 2.

[Chewy]

Is it that only Will Smith can be successful, or that only Will Smith has been given a chance to be successful?

You looked at a list of the biggest blockbusters starring black actors. Ok. And how many big budget movies have even been made that starred black actors? Can you even name one that didn't star Smith?

[Dark Raven]

Originally Posted by Chewy

Is it that only Will Smith can be successful, or that only Will Smith has been given a chance to be successful?

You looked at a list of the biggest blockbusters starring black actors. Ok. And how many big budget movies have even been made that starred black actors? Can you even name one that didn't star Smith?

I would think it is that. If Will Smith has to play every black role, that's extremely limiting for any other black actor, especially younger ones who want to break out.

Actually, the Beverly Hills Cop movies were fairly successful at their time. That starred Will Smith didn't it?

[DrCosmic]

Lol, Decoy makes a good point, though. For that reason, I think a film budget somewhere in the $80-100M range would be more appropriate. Similar to what the Blade series got. So when it pulls down 2-300M, it's considered a success. If it does pull in $400M+, it can shatter the Will Smith myth. If not, it'll still be successful.

Alternately, you can cast Denzel Washington as T'Chaka and Morgan Freeman as S'Yan, and include Nicky Fury in the storyline IM2 style. Having those three together would pretty much pwn the world, black or white or otherwise. Take the young lead surrounded by star power motif and apply it to black actors, basically. And as much as some people wouldn't mind Smith, he's not going to sign a six picture deal. I don't think he's ever even signed a 2 picture deal. So he's not an option, thus the only real choice becomes bringing the budget down and using it a lot smarter.

To me, that's pretty straightforward. All the SFX BP needs is a few establishing shots of Wakanda, and a couple vibranium vibration absorption effects, and sound blasts from Klaw. Beyond that, everything is practical. Go to actual Africa, fly in a small cast and a few dozen talented stuntmen, including fight choreographers like Michael Jai White (Spawn, Black Dynamite) and free runners like Sébastien Foucan (Casino Royale), use local labor for construction of the palace, Wakandan facilities and for extras. Practical sets for the second act (get great cinematogrpaher to capture Africa's natural beauty), soundstage (either there or here) for the palace and for the vibranium mound. Do some humanitarian event for free publicity and good will marketing. In the previews, put the big names up, show a fight scene and preview its connectedness to the rest of the MCU, show the white sidekick (Ev Ross) to prove it's not just for black people. Sold. It's a relatively cheap movie to make, if you're working backwards from $150M.

Keep in mind, this is the type of film that will do a lot better overseas than in the states, like Thor, as opposed to Captain America or Iron Man. So even if it doesn't make 100M over here (and it would, just on the marvel banner), it's going to bust 200M in all the other markets.

[Chewy]

http://latino-review.com/2012/06/05/...place-wakanda/

Oh god yes

[jaqua99]

Originally Posted by Chewy

http://latino-review.com/2012/06/05/...place-wakanda/

Oh god yes

Ugh no no So this will be one of the movies for 2014?? Damnit guys. I was hoping for antman and GotG. C looks like antman probably won't happen that year then....damnit haha this is the worst marvel news I've read in a long time. Don't want a black panther movie at all. Couldnt give 2 ****s about the character.....damnit this blows!

[Chewy]

Originally Posted by jaqua99

Ugh no no So this will be one of the movies for 2014?? Damnit guys. I was hoping for antman and GotG. C looks like antman probably won't happen that year then....damnit haha this is the worst marvel news I've read in a long time. Don't want a black panther movie at all. Couldnt give 2 ****s about the character.....damnit this blows!

Black Panther and Capt/Ms Marvel are really the only Avengers that can support a movie series outside the big three and Hulk. Ant-Man is a bomb waiting to happen, not a studio tentpole

[RealIrOnMaN]

Give the Panther his rightful Earth's Mightiest Heroes animated treatment and we've got a winner) I hope that the scriptwriters took some cues from Priest's awesome and incredible run (which influenced Yost and Fine during the creation of EMH btw).

[jaqua99]

Originally Posted by Chewy

Black Panther and Capt/Ms Marvel are really the only Avengers that can support a movie series outside the big three and Hulk. Ant-Man is a bomb waiting to happen, not a studio tentpole

It seems GotG is bound to happen. Agreed about antman...but if it happens... To me... That's an easy way to introduce ultron. That's the only reason I want antman. I hope that this isnt true

[Blackman]

Originally Posted by Chewy

http://latino-review.com/2012/06/05/...place-wakanda/

Oh god yes

Black. F***ing. Panther.

Hell yes

[Chewy]

Black Panther is an incredibly cool character. Read the Priest run. I don't see how anyone can really dislike the character. Yeah he can be a Mary Sue on the Avengers cartoon but that's not who the character really is

Can't wait

[RealIrOnMaN]

[Dark Raven]

I hope BP has his full head mask and not some modified version of it (eg when he had a half cowl in the comics) or completely lacking a mask. People like Panther because of his mystique, not because they like seeing his real face.