Who should be the villain in an Avengers sequel? (Poll)

[BigThor]

Originally Posted by cherokeesam

The original Joe Cornish script was set in the 60s *and* the modern world, though --- with Pym being the "original" Ant-Man of the 60s, but the bulk of the movie was to focus on him mentoring Scott Lang as his successor in modern times.

But all of that was with the first draft, years ago, and there's been tons of re-writes since then; the current version was just turned in to Marvel last fall, and nobody knows what (or who) it's going to be about. I'd be willing to bet that Marvel has convinced Wright/Cornish to focus on Pym, though, and drop the whole 1960s backstory angle.

Yeah I remember hearing about it years ago but it's gets brought up around here like it happened yesterday, plus I've never been a fan of Lang so there's another reason why I hope the actual film ends up significantly different.

However I do think Edgar Wright is a director capable of doing Ant Man justice, it's just his initial 1960s, "Scott Lang prepping" vision that I'm not too keen on seeing come to fruition.

[cherokeesam]

Originally Posted by BigThor

Yeah I remember hearing about it years ago but it's gets brought up around here like it happened yesterday, plus I've never been a fan of Lang so there's another reason why I hope the actual film ends up significantly different.

However I do think Edgar Wright is a director capable of doing Ant Man justice, it's just his initial 1960s, "Scott Lang prepping" vision that I'm not too keen on seeing come to fruition.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of that approach, either. Especially if it sidelines Hank and keeps him out of the Avengers.

Still, it might make for a fresh approach if they had a 60-something superhero on the team, and had one of our all-time great actors (fill in the blank, I'm not making any particular suggestion here) playing the role. And I've heard more than a few people on these forums wanting to see the May-December romance for Hank and Janet; if you make Janet in her 20s or 30s, that would *definitely* be May-December. Creepy May-December, even.

Eh. Don't know that I'd want to see any of that, but it *definitely* would be unique to the genre.

[marcvader]

Originally Posted by cherokeesam

Yeah, I'm not a fan of that approach, either. Especially if it sidelines Hank and keeps him out of the Avengers.

Still, it might make for a fresh approach if they had a 60-something superhero on the team, and had one of our all-time great actors (fill in the blank, I'm not making any particular suggestion here) playing the role. And I've heard more than a few people on these forums wanting to see the May-December romance for Hank and Janet; if you make Janet in her 20s or 30s, that would *definitely* be May-December. Creepy May-December, even.

Eh. Don't know that I'd want to see any of that, but it *definitely* would be unique to the genre.

I wouldn't be too opposed to an older Pym but 60-something is pushing it. I'd be ok with a Kinnear type for Hank.

[The Morningstar]

Originally Posted by marcvader

No, tying Pym to Kang to get him into the present day and Avengers.

Oh, I didn't know you was talking about Pym, I was just talking about Kang in general.

[Dark Raven]

Originally Posted by cherokeesam

The original Joe Cornish script was set in the 60s *and* the modern world, though --- with Pym being the "original" Ant-Man of the 60s, but the bulk of the movie was to focus on him mentoring Scott Lang as his successor in modern times.

But all of that was with the first draft, years ago, and there's been tons of re-writes since then; the current version was just turned in to Marvel last fall, and nobody knows what (or who) it's going to be about. I'd be willing to bet that Marvel has convinced Wright/Cornish to focus on Pym, though, and drop the whole 1960s backstory angle.

Yeah, I got the impression that it was like the Mask of Zorro, with Anthony Hopkins passing on the Zorro baton to his successor, Antonio Banderas. I don't want to really see that here, to be honest. I don't think Lang really adds anything except for being a distraction.

A story focusing on Pym and Jan would be much more interesting. I would say only bring in Scott Lang if they wanted to later do a sequel but didn't want to continue with Pym (although that could end up like Highlander IV).

[BigThor]

Originally Posted by marcvader

I wouldn't be too opposed to an older Pym but 60-something is pushing it. I'd be ok with a Kinnear type for Hank.

Yeah I'd like for Hank to be somewhere between 35 and 45 years old, with Jane being about 10 years younger than him.

Originally Posted by Dark Raven

Yeah, I got the impression that it was like the Mask of Zorro, with Anthony Hopkins passing on the Zorro baton to his successor, Antonio Banderas. I don't want to really see that here, to be honest. I don't think Lang really adds anything except for being a distraction.

A story focusing on Pym and Jan would be much more interesting. I would say only bring in Scott Lang if they wanted to later do a sequel but didn't want to continue with Pym (although that could end up like Highlander IV).

Agreed

[DrCosmic]

Originally Posted by BigThor

Yeah I remember hearing about it years ago but it's gets brought up around here like it happened yesterday, plus I've never been a fan of Lang so there's another reason why I hope the actual film ends up significantly different.

It keeps getting brought up because they keep saying it over and over again year after year, every time the question is asked. Pym isn't intended, and probably not able, to appear in the Avengers. Fans may not like it, but that's the situation.

I think an older Hank Pym could be pretty cool, and again, fresh, and would further set him apart from other techies, biologists, bruisers and infiltrators on the team. Jan would be in Pym's movie, so they'd be about the same age, so none of that May- December stuff, I don't think.

On the topic, I think I'd like to see Ultron as the villain in part 2 now. I think, even if he's set in the 60s, Pym can still invent Ultron, and all that good stuff. I like that more and more.

[nikos52]

i think ultron is a great idea...because it's still a "smaller" and more "painfull" movie, because you get to see the Pym's and it focuses more on relationships between the characters. They can still have a kick-ass battle with Ultron, but it wil be in a much smaller scale and more personnal...i think that would make a perfect second movie in a trilogy.

[ZenTheAvenger]

I'd have Ultron in Avengers 2 with more references to Thanos in that film as well as in Thor 2 possibly?

Then Thanos in Avengers 3.

[BigThor]

Originally Posted by nikos52

i think ultron is a great idea...because it's still a "smaller" and more "painfull" movie, because you get to see the Pym's and it focuses more on relationships between the characters. They can still have a kick-ass battle with Ultron, but it wil be in a much smaller scale and more personnal...i think that would make a perfect second movie in a trilogy.

Originally Posted by ZenTheAvenger

I'd have Ultron in Avengers 2 with more references to Thanos in that film as well as in Thor 2 possibly?

Then Thanos in Avengers 3.

I agree with both of you

[ZenTheAvenger]

Apparently there is an interview out there with Fiege where he says Civil War is a real possibility for The Avengers 3?

[Oberon sexton]

That'd be weird, considering that Hulk and Thor were absent in that storyline.
Hmmm interesting..

[ZenTheAvenger]

Originally Posted by Oberon sexton

That'd be weird, considering that Hulk and Thor were absent in that storyline.
Hmmm interesting..

I'm no expert but I don't see how Civil War would work well in a film?

Surely we would need 10-15 superheroes to give it some depth and there is no way a film could be made giving them all depth and the story real focus.

[Oberon sexton]

Yeah, you'd really need to drastically change the movie universe so that a large population of superheroes are part of everyday society, which of course probably wouldn't work.

[ZenTheAvenger]

Originally Posted by Oberon sexton

Yeah, you'd really need to drastically change the movie universe so that a large population of superheroes are part of everyday society, which of course probably wouldn't work.

I don't think they should go the Civil War route.

Ultron followed by Thanos seems a nice, organic way of evolving the movies.

[Dark Carnage]

What if Thanos briefly shows up, takes an Infinity Gem that was on Earth, continued on his way and then Ultron is born from the need to have a more immediate response unit if the Avengers take too long to assemble?

Thor in Asgard, Hulk in the middle of nowhere. Even if Iron Man got to Thanos in a matter of minutes, he'd be taken down in humiliating fashion. So, he could talk to Pym about developing a collection of Iron Man-eque robots he could lead until the other Avengers arrive.

[ZenTheAvenger]

Originally Posted by Dark Carnage

What if Thanos briefly shows up, takes an Infinity Gem that was on Earth, continued on his way and then Ultron is born from the need to have a more immediate response unit if the Avengers take too long to assemble?

Thor in Asgard, Hulk in the middle of nowhere. Even if Iron Man got to Thanos in a matter of minutes, he'd be taken down in humiliating fashion. So, he could talk to Pym about developing a collection of Iron Man-eque robots he could lead until the other Avengers arrive.

That is a pretty good idea!

[psylockolussus]

For now, I'll choose THANOS!

[Kishiro]

Kang plus Ultron for the second one. With a traveling to the future to visit the Ultron and Kang´s war.

[lancimouspitt]

I'm not real knowledable on the avengers,just the basics but I guessing we will see more of the Shield council in the sequel. I don't know if they where in the comics but at the end of the movie I don't think they where too happy with Fury's decision making. I would love to see Vision make his debut in a sequel within some form,more of thanos as well.
Possibly red hulk as a villian? Laughable?
Not sure where the argument started,but I as well was pretty sure it was Thanos who was lending an army to Loki as well. In the beginning that creature which was talking,was talking to someone. stating, "The world his" and something like "the universe yours."
and then midcredits the same creature was talking to the same being,stating the humans cannot be ruled because they are unruly. Maybe i'm completely off target here but I was under the same impression as well.

[Venom 1988]

Originally Posted by lancimouspitt

I'm not real knowledable on the avengers,just the basics but I guessing we will see more of the Shield council in the sequel. I don't know if they where in the comics but at the end of the movie I don't think they where too happy with Fury's decision making.

Yeah I agree, based on the councils role in this movie I wouldn't be surprised if the tried to make their own Anti-Avengers/Master of Evil esque/Liberators/ "whatever you want to call them" team. The politics/ethics of this could be the more smaller personal movie they want while still having plenty of action. Have past/new villains acting for the Councils team; so even though they are evil, they're technically working for the government.

[DigificWriter]

Based on the way The Avengers ends, I think the most likely villain for Avengers 2 is

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

Thanos

, although there is also the potential for him to appear as the villain of Thor 2 before then, which would make him the second Marvel villain to appear in both a Thor movie and an Avengers movie (the first, of course, being Loki).

[lancimouspitt]

Originally Posted by DigificWriter

Based on the way The Avengers ends, I think the most likely villain for Avengers 2 is

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

Thanos

, although there is also the potential for him to appear as the villain of Thor 2 before then, which would make him the second Marvel villain to appear in both a Thor movie and an Avengers movie (the first, of course, being Loki).

Speaking of which is it confirmed that Thor 2,Iron man 3,and Captain America 2,next Hulk,etc will all or some of them be made before the next avengers film?
I'm guessing it's too early to say for sure but with the money The Avengers has been bringing in i'm wondering if they'll just make the sequel before anything else?

[DigificWriter]

^ As of now, the films for which we have confirmed release dates are Iron Man 3 (May 3, 2013), Thor 2 (November 15, 2013), and Captain America 2 (April 2014). We do know that an Avengers sequel is most likely coming, but we don't have many details about it at this point.

Regarding a sequel to TIH, there are currently no plans for the character of Bruce Banner/The Hulk to be featured in another solo film, as was confirmed by Kevin Feige a week or so ago.

[BigThor]

Originally Posted by Dark Carnage

What if Thanos briefly shows up, takes an Infinity Gem that was on Earth, continued on his way and then Ultron is born from the need to have a more immediate response unit if the Avengers take too long to assemble?

Thor in Asgard, Hulk in the middle of nowhere. Even if Iron Man got to Thanos in a matter of minutes, he'd be taken down in humiliating fashion. So, he could talk to Pym about developing a collection of Iron Man-eque robots he could lead until the other Avengers arrive.

If Thanos shows up briefly in any film it's going to be in THOR II, because of his connection with Loki and the Infinity Gauntlet.