State your unpopular film related opinion - Part 7

[MilkmanDan]

Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg Bop

Forrest Gump's message is treat people with respect and never doubt yourself. Forrest is nice to every person he comes along ---

Forrest isn't just nice, he's obedient.

Forrest does a lot in the movie, but he never once thinks he can't do something. He just applies himself and it gains him great achievements: medals, fortune, fame, and a son.

He never once thinks, period. Apart from running across the US, all he ever really does is exactly what people tell him to do. That is why people are sceptical of the movie's message. Forrest has no real drive or ambition. He isn't so much stupid as he is a mindless sheep, a blind follower. And his blissful ignorance is portrayed as a positive thing. Especially when compared to Jenny, who does in fact apply herself passionately to the political and cultural movements of her times. Who questions the authority and asks all the hard, uncomfortable questions that Forrest ignores. And the result is that Forrest is a great success while Jenny dies of AIDS like the filthy harlot she is.

I think most of this is probably unintentional on the filmmakers part, but there is definitely a questionable moral to be learned from Forrest Gump.

[Travesty]

Originally Posted by MilkmanDan

He never once thinks, period. Apart from running across the US, all he ever really does is exactly what people tell him to do. That is why people are sceptical of the movie's message. Forrest has no real drive or ambition. He isn't so much stupid as he is a mindless sheep, a blind follower.

He stayed and saved all his friends in the war, when he was told to leave. He stayed with Jenny, when she kept telling him to go away. He kept a promise to his friend, by making sure he starts a shrimp company.

He thought a lot, and he went against many things that people told him to. He wasn't a mindless sheep, but loyal to what he knew was right, and stayed true to that. I can't understand where you think he was just a mindless follower? He was the one always setting the examples, and everybody else followed him.

[LOBO3315a]

Originally Posted by MilkmanDan

Forrest isn't just nice, he's obedient.

He never once thinks, period. Apart from running across the US, all he ever really does is exactly what people tell him to do. That is why people are sceptical of the movie's message. Forrest has no real drive or ambition. He isn't so much stupid as he is a mindless sheep, a blind follower. And his blissful ignorance is portrayed as a positive thing. Especially when compared to Jenny, who does in fact apply herself passionately to the political and cultural movements of her times. Who questions the authority and asks all the hard, uncomfortable questions that Forrest ignores. And the result is that Forrest is a great success while Jenny dies of AIDS like the filthy harlot she is.

I think most of this is probably unintentional on the filmmakers part, but there is definitely a questionable moral to be learned from Forrest Gump.

[danoyse]

Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg Bop

Forrest Gump's message is treat people with respect and never doubt yourself. Forrest is nice to every person he comes along except for Jenny's boyfriends; and what did beating them up get him? Only further distance between himself and the girl he loved.

Forrest does a lot in the movie, but he never once thinks he can't do something. He just applies himself and it gains him great achievements: medals, fortune, fame, and a son.

And he was the only one who didn't see Jenny as broken. Even Jenny couldn't see herself that way for a very long time. Forrest was the one who saved her from herself.

[danoyse]

Originally Posted by MilkmanDan

Forrest isn't just nice, he's obedient.

He never once thinks, period. Apart from running across the US, all he ever really does is exactly what people tell him to do. That is why people are sceptical of the movie's message. Forrest has no real drive or ambition. He isn't so much stupid as he is a mindless sheep, a blind follower. And his blissful ignorance is portrayed as a positive thing. Especially when compared to Jenny, who does in fact apply herself passionately to the political and cultural movements of her times. Who questions the authority and asks all the hard, uncomfortable questions that Forrest ignores. And the result is that Forrest is a great success while Jenny dies of AIDS like the filthy harlot she is.

I think most of this is probably unintentional on the filmmakers part, but there is definitely a questionable moral to be learned from Forrest Gump.

That's not what Jenny was at all. She was a horribly abused kid who was treated like trash for her whole childhood, and grew up thinking that's all she was. She surrounded herself with boyfriends who beat her, and she abused herself with drugs and bad behavior, because she honestly believed that's all she was worth. She wasn't "applying herself to causes" - she was running away from her own pain that whole time.

[Secret Fawful]

I got an entirely different message from Forrest Gump. A message that no matter how good, sweet, kind, and successful you are, love and happiness will never come your way and you'll be alone having to raise a child in complete loneliness and misery your entire life. The movie makes me feel exploited and I hate it. I despise it.

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

I never thought anyone could come away from Forrest Gump feeling pessimistic.

[El Payaso]

Originally Posted by Secret Fawful

I got an entirely different message from Forrest Gump. A message that no matter how good, sweet, kind, and successful you are, love and happiness will never come your way and you'll be alone having to raise a child in complete loneliness and misery your entire life. The movie makes me feel exploited and I hate it. I despise it.

LOL, but true.


I got this message from Forreest Gump: you'll find happiness in life the way happiness in life is possivle, that is not complete nor total.

In order to do that you've gotta be not very smart, the less smart you are the better you'll do. If you think of what's more convenient you'll lose. If you think it's stupid to go on you'll lose.

NOW: God or destiny must help you an awful and absolutely unrealistic lot. So much that no man could have ever had that many coincidences to help him.


That could sound like I didn't like the movie but in fact I like it a lot and rate it 4.5/5

[MilkmanDan]

Originally Posted by LOBO3315a

That's just sad. You seem to the lack of both imagination and sense of humor to fully appreciate this movie. Enjoying Forrest Gump only on its most basic sappy saccharine level is like watching Top Gun completely oblivious to its silliness and homoerotism.

[LOBO3315a]

Perhaps we need sarcasm tags. I see the humor now, but when I read your post it just came across as one of those people on IMDB that go out of their way to give a good movie a bad review.

[danoyse]

Originally Posted by MilkmanDan

That's just sad. You seem to the lack of both imagination and sense of humor to fully appreciate this movie. Enjoying Forrest Gump only on its most basic sappy saccharine level is like watching Top Gun completely oblivious to its silliness and homoerotism.

And you can respect someone else's opinion and respond without the presumptuous arrogance next time. Settle down, please.

[Bobber]

Cruising is underrated, and one of William Friedkins best films.

[Parker Wayne]

I loved Forrest Gump for what it is. With all these difference opinions of the movie on the page, I honestly think that a lot of you are looking too deeply into it.

[Secret Fawful]

There is no such thing as looking too deeply, over-analyzing, or thinking too much. Ordinary people only look at the surface.

[DyeLorean]

I think every movie has a different message if you really try to find it. It just depends on how you look at it, the experiences you had in your life and what you choose to take from the viewing.

[Parker Wayne]

Originally Posted by Secret Fawful

There is no such thing as looking too deeply, over-analyzing, or thinking too much. Ordinary people only look at the surface.

With all the over-analyzing of Disney movies, I disagree.

[The Morningstar]

Originally Posted by Secret Fawful

There is no such thing as looking too deeply, over-analyzing, or thinking too much. Ordinary people only look at the surface.

Yea there is. I've seen some people compare Batman to Jesus in a thousand word walls of texts on this site before.

[Homer J. Fong]

The only time there's such a thing as overanalyzing a film is when the overanalysis is boring.

[Secret Fawful]

Originally Posted by Parker Wayne

With all the over-analyzing of Disney movies, I disagree.

Disney is one of the BEST things to over-analyze.

Originally Posted by The Morningstar

Yea there is. I've seen some people compare Batman to Jesus in a thousand word walls of texts on this site before.

And what's wrong with this analysis? It either holds water or it doesn't, but analyzing it is no crime, and should be done whenever possible to determine the validity of such an idea. Over-analysis lends itself to some incredibly intelligent conclusions most of the time, and looking at things from the surface only is short-sighted and ignorant. The way I see it, you guys are just wanting to be contrary for contrary's sake, because there's no way I can be convinced that someone who has thought it through can believe that looking at things as deeply as possible is bad.

[LOBO3315a]

Then there is searching for things that do not exist. Claiming that the Telletubby Tinky-winky is promoting a pro-homosexual message becaus it is the color purple, carries a handbag and has a triangle on top of its head is over-analyzing.

[Secret Fawful]

Why can you people not accept the concept that there is no such thing as over-analyzing. False conclusions, yes, but you're saying false conclusions and over-analyzing are the same, and they aren't. Stop it, it's really >censored< irritating. You're making me wish your lives would turn into Videodrome. I mad.

And don't give me this "false conclusions come from over-analyzing" crap. Any type of conclusion can come from over-analyzing.

[SuperFerret]

Analysis is like an autopsy. You can go in and examine the separate parts, but when you do, the whole is ruined.

[El Payaso]

Originally Posted by Secret Fawful

Why can you people not accept the concept that there is no such thing as over-analyzing. False conclusions, yes, but you're saying false conclusions and over-analyzing are the same, and they aren't. Stop it, it's really >censored< irritating. You're making me wish your lives would turn into Videodrome. I mad.

And don't give me this "false conclusions come from over-analyzing" crap. Any type of conclusion can come from over-analyzing.

It's clear you're over-analyzing this over-analyzing thing. So it does exist.

[The Morningstar]

Ziiiiing!

[Secret Fawful]

Originally Posted by El Payaso

It's clear you're over-analyzing this over-analyzing thing. So it does exist.

Got me there.