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Old 03-17-2012, 09:39 PM   #1
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According to the folks at HitFix:

HitFix were at The Amazing Spider-Man panel at WonderCon today and have a detailed recap of what went down during the presentation. It would appear that the footage shown was the same as what a select number of fans were lucky enough to see at a series of sneak peek screenings last month. However, there were a few noteworthy pieces of information revealed by attendees Marc Webb, Emma Stone and Matt Tolmach.

Firstly, the director revealed that the aggressive and sarcastic attitude Peter will have in the film stems from the fact that he was abandoned by his parents at a young age. In his words, ""a quippy, trickster Spider-Man," in a world that feels "emotionally and physically grounded." (hence the focus on practical stunts rather than CGI). Worryingly, Tolmach went on to say that the story in the reboot will steer away from the death of Uncle Ben being the catalyst for Peter's decision to become Spider-Man. However, there will be a "veiled variation" on the "With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility" line.

It would appear that The Amazing Spider-Man will instead be a little more like Batman, with the focus on the fact that Peter is an orphan. "It's an area of his life that's never gotten a lot of attention, but it's such a primal experience," Tolmach said. Emma Stone soon started taking questions from fans (including a girl with a "Emma Stone: Marry Me" shirt on apparently) and said that she originally read for the role of Mary Jane before the script had been finished. As for who she thinks is the better girlfriend for Peter, she said: "Gwen Stacy loves him for Peter. Mary Jane loves him for Spider-Man."


^ As a Spider-Man fan I can't say I am too happy to read that. Uncle Ben's death was the reason he became Spider-Man. Now, it's going to be his missing parents.

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Default Re: Looks like Uncle Ben won't die....

Well we don't know how exactly all of this plays out, so I wouldn't let your jimmies get rustled just yet.

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Old 03-17-2012, 09:43 PM   #3
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Default Re: Looks like Uncle Ben won't die....

Well, we came to that conclusion already months ago but its nice to have verification.

It still doesn't guarantee Peter is Spidey before Ben is dead.

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Old 03-17-2012, 09:43 PM   #4
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Default Re: Looks like Uncle Ben won't die....

I'm confused. I thought it was confirmed that Uncle Ben would die. In your quoted article, it doesn't say that Ben won't die but that they are going to get away from the idea THAT is the reason Pete becomes Spider-man.

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Old 03-17-2012, 09:46 PM   #5
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Yeah. The title of this thread is misleading.

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Old 03-17-2012, 09:54 PM   #7
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I don't see how anyone reading that line about Peter being an orphan comes to the conclusion that "uncle ben won't die" or "peter's parents will cause him to be spider-man". All I get from it is that they will spend a lot of time delving into Peter's character and how being an orphan effects him, something they think will in reality should have an effect on a person and something that wasn't ever covered in the previous films.

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I don't see how anyone reading that line about Peter being an orphan comes to the conclusion that "uncle ben won't die" or "peter's parents will cause him to be spider-man". All I get from it is that they will spend a lot of time delving into Peter's character and how being an orphan effects him, something they think will in reality should have an effect on a person and something that wasn't ever covered in the previous films.
Exactly. I think this just means that him being an orphan and growing up without real parents will affect the way he is as Spider-Man and how he deals with differenr situations, especially after he gets his powers.

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Old 03-17-2012, 10:08 PM   #9
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http://io9.com/5894176/the-amazing-s...pidey-villains

I think this article states what was said a bit more clearly. But whether or not Peter becomes Spider-man because of his parents, we'll find out in July.

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I don't see how anyone reading that line about Peter being an orphan comes to the conclusion that "uncle ben won't die" or "peter's parents will cause him to be spider-man". All I get from it is that they will spend a lot of time delving into Peter's character and how being an orphan effects him, something they think will in reality should have an effect on a person and something that wasn't ever covered in the previous films.
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Exactly. I think this just means that him being an orphan and growing up without real parents will affect the way he is as Spider-Man and how he deals with differenr situations, especially after he gets his powers.
Losing your parents makes a huge impact on someone, especially when the loss is unexpected and the person is young enough to not only have memories but also know how much it means to lose them. See batman. So yeah, this logic makes perfect sense. And according to original quote, it doesn't necessarily say that Uncle Ben won't have an impact as well.

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The way I interpret is that it is the emotional baggage stemming from being an orphan that causes Peter to start using his powers - but it is more of a means to escape that baggage and feel like he's "more" than "just an orphan" - it's not wrestling to make money, but still every bit as selfish. I think it's Ben's death that makes Peter consider the "great responsibility" factor of his actions.

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Old 03-17-2012, 10:21 PM   #12
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I think people are taking this whole "Uncle Ben won't be the catalyst for Peter's decision to become Spider-Man." thing too literal. I take it as Ben's death isn't Peter's breaking point. In the Raimi film, Peter's whole reason for being Spider-Man is Uncle Ben's death. I think this movie is going to add more reasons to that.

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You can almost hear the frustration of thousands of nerds already blogging.

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I don't see how anyone reading that line about Peter being an orphan comes to the conclusion that "uncle ben won't die" or "peter's parents will cause him to be spider-man". All I get from it is that they will spend a lot of time delving into Peter's character and how being an orphan effects him, something they think will in reality should have an effect on a person and something that wasn't ever covered in the previous films.
I said something like that a while go. How the previous movies had Peter shrug of the fact that he was an orphan, and how he wasn't effected by it. I said it would effect most people, and they should have covered it, and I got flamed by someone...

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You can almost hear the frustration of thousands of nerds already blogging.
True, but Tolmach didn't do himself any favors by being vague or using the term "steer away". It makes it sound like the film is making Ben's death less significant then it probably is. He should know that everything he says will be scrutinized to the nth degree.

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The way I interpret is that it is the emotional baggage stemming from being an orphan that causes Peter to start using his powers - but it is more of a means to escape that baggage and feel like he's "more" than "just an orphan" - it's not wrestling to make money, but still every bit as selfish. I think it's Ben's death that makes Peter consider the "great responsibility" factor of his actions.
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I think people are taking this whole "Uncle Ben won't be the catalyst for Peter's decision to become Spider-Man." thing too literal. I take it as Ben's death isn't Peter's breaking point. In the Raimi film, Peter's whole reason for being Spider-Man is Uncle Ben's death. I think this movie is going to add more reasons to that.
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Ummmm it just states uncle Ben's death is one of the factors of peter becoming spider-man, not the one that takes center stage. Ben's death will more than likely turn Pete into a better and more responsible spider-man. I'm open to this kind of interpretation.


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Yea...that video...people forgot about it?

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I think people are taking this whole "Uncle Ben won't be the catalyst for Peter's decision to become Spider-Man." thing too literal. I take it as Ben's death isn't Peter's breaking point. In the Raimi film, Peter's whole reason for being Spider-Man is Uncle Ben's death. I think this movie is going to add more reasons to that.
Why do you say "in Raimi's film" and not "in the comics"? It's not something that he just made up; it's straight-up Amazing Fantasy 15. Ben's death had always been the singular motivation for Peter's heroics. His parents weren't even introduced till a few years later.

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Why do you say "in Raimi's film" and not "in the comics"? It's not something that he just made up; it's straight-up Amazing Fantasy 15. Ben's death had always been the singular motivation for Peter's heroics. His parents weren't even introduced till a few years later.
I know, but this movie will ALWAYS be compared to the Raimi film, so why not keep that trend going?

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so uncle ben will have organic web shooters?

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so uncle ben will have organic web shooters?
Yeah. Aunt Carnage is rumored to be the killer because he insulted her wheatcakes, but we don't have proof of that. I hope it's true, though, sounds awesome.

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But it's a good and new concept to give to Peter, since we know of his parents at this point from comic history. It adds weight to the characterisation and the movie.

Granted, Peter's parents had no significance in his choice to become Spider-Man in the comics, it doesn't hurt with the films perspective. It's simply a new and unused element, which adds and enhances the characteristics of Peter, and the storyline in general.

Originally, Peter never found a box that made him grow suspicious of his parents. Originally, he was never effected by his status as an orphan, it was simple life. But with THIS movie, the circumstances are different. He IS effected and his parents come more into the equation because of the storyline.

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Should I watch that uncle ben clip? I've come across it before but decided not to watch it because I thought it would be more powerful if the first time I saw it was at theaters but I really want to see it and get a sneak peak. Whatever I'll wait.

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