The TDKR General Discussion & Speculation Thread (NOT A LOUNGE) - - Part 57

[Gianakin_]

As long as it's not a sex-changer.

[TheFuture]

I mean if nothing else, we all knew that The Avengers was going to be a massive spectacle on screen at the very least.

[JB-the-Hunter]

Originally Posted by Excelsior.

It's game changing in its superficial novelty of all the heroes from different franchises (but still under the Disney/Marvel banner) coming together into one film. But that speaks nothing to the structure of the film. The heroes argue; the villain wants world domination; the heroes settle their differences and finally work as a team in that crucial moment; the villain loses. No matter how well made they may be, it is still very much within convention. A true game changer challenges conventional structures, flips it on its head. For example, No country for old men was a game changer for thrillers. One could say watchmen was a game changer for the comic book genre. I just don't see Avengers challenging structural norms.

Who's to say it doesn't do that? Just because the basic plot isn't game changing doesn't mean there aren't other aspects of the film that are.

[gorillanesthsia]

You're all wrong.

THIS. ...Is game changing.

[redfirebird2008]

Originally Posted by Doctor Jones

Could be, but let's not toss these words around lightly. They did create quite an effect on the standards of comic book films. I mean it pretty much is seen as the standard now.

Right. I don't know if it's a game changer, but Begins had a pretty big impact on the genre without being a huge box office hit (unlike Superman, B89, or Spider-Man before it). When numerous filmmakers in the genre have cited it as a source of inspiration for the tone of their projects, it has definitely made a pretty big impact. I think that's cool to see for a movie that didn't just blow the doors off the public when it came out. I was floored by it, but I'm a Batman fan.

[Excelsior.]

Originally Posted by JB-the-Hunter

Who's to say it doesn't do that? Just because the basic plot isn't game changing doesn't mean there aren't other aspects of the film that are.

The spilers do. It's astonishingly well made but within convention.

[Nevincer]

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[JB-the-Hunter]

Originally Posted by Excelsior.

The spilers do. It's astonishingly well made but within convention.

Like some other poster said, we really won't be able to tell until years in the future.

[Léo Ho Tep]

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[Excelsior.]

Originally Posted by JB-the-Hunter

Like some other poster said, we really won't be able to tell until years in the future.

It would take years for us to decode that it doesn't break conventional storytelling methods?

[redfirebird2008]

It will be interesting to see what kind of impact Avengers has on the industry. Even if the movie is great, it could have a negative impact over the years. Reminds me of Led Zeppelin, my favorite band. They were amazing, but a lot of the stuff they influenced in the 80's was garbage. If the result of this "Marvel Universe" being very successful is that we end up with oversaturation, it will get boring in a hurry. I don't need to see 15 movies with RDJ's Tony Stark. It reminds me of what is happening with Depp's Captain Jack. Great character, but run into the ground through oversaturation.

[Boom]

Jack Sparrow stopped being an interesting character after the first film.

[venus_ice]

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[Thread Manager]

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