Ghost Rider vs GR: Spirit of Vengeance - Page 6

BigThor · 02-29-2012, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AVEITWITHJAMON

Blackout couldnt make it dark in the middle of the day, unless they were in a dark place with lights on inside. So that was another stupid addition to his powers. He was never human either, he was born a vampire and had fangs and was generally an amazing villain in the comics.

Sorry but what we got in the movie was garbage, when compared to the comics, so in this reagrd, faithfulness would have improved the movie, not "taken it too far."

I thought it was cool, much cooler than the Blackout in the comics in terms of powers.

*shrugs*

Nathan · 02-29-2012, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AVEITWITHJAMON

Sorry but what we got in the movie was garbage, when compared to the comics, so in this reagrd, faithfulness would have improved the movie, not "taken it too far."

So, all you're saying is that the Movie would have been better, had he stayed a Vampire? So basically, the rest of the Movie was ok.

AVEITWITHJAMON · 02-29-2012, 03:57 PM

^Well thats up to you BT.

But surely you can see were we comic book fans come from. If in the Thor movie they had made Loki like the Blackout in this movie would you be happy? No, you wouldnt. Thankfully they got Loki pretty damn spot on. This Blackout was in name only. In the comics it wasnt Blackout's powers which made him cool, it was his sadistic and calculating nature not to mention how evil and tactical his approach was.

EDIT: Nathan, didnt see your post at first. No i'm not saying that was the only bad thing, it was one of a number of bad things that they got the characters powers and, well, character, completely wrong. Read my review, it mentions much more bad things, like crap direction, story-telling and a rubbish Devil as well and some really out of character things for GR.

BigThor · 02-29-2012, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AVEITWITHJAMON

^Well thats up to you BT.

But surely you can see were we comic book fans come from. If in the Thor movie they had made Loki like the Blackout in this movie would you be happy? No, you wouldnt. Thankfully they got Loki pretty damn spot on. This Blackout was in name only. In the comics it wasnt Blackout's powers which made him cool, it was his sadistic and calculating nature not to mention how evil and tactical his approach was.

They left out ALOT of Loki's powers in THOR and they gave Blackout powers in GR:SOV, so it's not the same thing.

AVEITWITHJAMON · 03-01-2012, 04:40 AM

But leaving out his powers doesnt mean he wont use them at a later, outright giving a character powers for no reason is just idiotic IMO. Thor himself didnt use some of his powers in the movie, doesnt mean he cant at a later date. We are know stuck with this iteration of Blackout.

The Morningstar · 03-01-2012, 05:03 AM

The only good thing about this movie was when the Rider was on screen. Loved how he was portrayed as more of a creepy horror movie character. When he first turns up and is standing there swaying from side to side, twitching his head about... i loved it.

Midnyte_Sun · 03-01-2012, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AVEITWITHJAMON

^Well thats up to you BT.

But surely you can see were we comic book fans come from. If in the Thor movie they had made Loki like the Blackout in this movie would you be happy? No, you wouldnt.

Amen. This is exactly what disappoints me about Sony. GR has a nice rogue's gallery that can be expanded upon, but they always end up changing and in the process, ruining characters.

As much as I liked Sam Elliot in GR 1, that wasn't the real Caretaker. The real Caretaker was a bad ass immortal from the line of the "Blood" sent to oversee the keepers of the Medallion of Power. Keepers such as Johnny Blaze, Danny Ketch, and Vengeance. See how awesome that sounds? Sony's response, "Na, screw it, he's a ghost that disappears before the climax." Up yours fans!

BigThor · 03-01-2012, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Midnyte_Sun

Amen. This is exactly what disappoints me about Sony. GR has a nice rogue's gallery that can be expanded upon, but they always end up changing and in the process, ruining characters.

As much as I liked Sam Elliot in GR 1, that wasn't the real Caretaker. The real Caretaker was a bad ass immortal from the line of the "Blood" sent to oversee the keepers of the Medallion of Power. Keepers such as Johnny Blaze, Danny Ketch, and Vengeance. See how awesome that sounds? Sony's response, "Na, screw it, he's a ghost that disappears before the climax." Up yours fans!

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Originally Posted by AVEITWITHJAMON

But leaving out his powers doesnt mean he wont use them at a later, outright giving a character powers for no reason is just idiotic IMO. Thor himself didnt use some of his powers in the movie, doesnt mean he cant at a later date. We are know stuck with this iteration of Blackout.

True

I see what you're saying, I still like Blackout's decay powers but I definately understand where you guys are coming from.

AVEITWITHJAMON · 03-06-2012, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Midnyte_Sun

Amen. This is exactly what disappoints me about Sony. GR has a nice rogue's gallery that can be expanded upon, but they always end up changing and in the process, ruining characters.

As much as I liked Sam Elliot in GR 1, that wasn't the real Caretaker. The real Caretaker was a bad ass immortal from the line of the "Blood" sent to oversee the keepers of the Medallion of Power. Keepers such as Johnny Blaze, Danny Ketch, and Vengeance. See how awesome that sounds? Sony's response, "Na, screw it, he's a ghost that disappears before the climax." Up yours fans!

That does sound much better than what we got, and the Blackout from the comics is much better than the one we got in the movies as well, I really wish we would've gotten to see him.

What we got in the movie was okay, but it wasnt Blackout, why not just make up a new villain like Hellboy II and Blade did if you dont want to use the comics.

psylockolussus · 04-22-2012, 04:42 AM

Ghost Rider **hands down**

At least it entertained me in some way. Spirit of Vengeance was terrible.

<(o_o)> · 06-19-2012, 03:40 AM

IMO, Ghost Rider 1 was the better made movie overall. Spirit of Vengeance had its moments also mostly with better action scenes & all the other crazy stuff that Ghost Rider does but was sorely lacking in Ghost Rider one liners.

Art Damage · 06-19-2012, 02:48 PM

SOV by far

02-29-2012, 03:57 PM	#128
AVEITWITHJAMON Terminator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Liverpool, U.K Posts: 21,400	Re: Ghost Rider vs GR: Spirit of Vengeance ^Well thats up to you BT. But surely you can see were we comic book fans come from. If in the Thor movie they had made Loki like the Blackout in this movie would you be happy? No, you wouldnt. Thankfully they got Loki pretty damn spot on. This Blackout was in name only. In the comics it wasnt Blackout's powers which made him cool, it was his sadistic and calculating nature not to mention how evil and tactical his approach was. EDIT: Nathan, didnt see your post at first. No i'm not saying that was the only bad thing, it was one of a number of bad things that they got the characters powers and, well, character, completely wrong. Read my review, it mentions much more bad things, like crap direction, story-telling and a rubbish Devil as well and some really out of character things for GR. __________________ 2013: 1)Django Unchained-9(2)Star Trek Into Darkness-9(3)Iron Man 3-9(4)Evil Dead-8(5)Oblivion-8(6)The Last Stand-7.5(7)Oz: The Great And Powerful-7.5(8)Jack The Giant Slayer-7.5 Last edited by AVEITWITHJAMON; 02-29-2012 at 04:00 PM.

03-01-2012, 04:40 AM	#130
AVEITWITHJAMON Terminator Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Liverpool, U.K Posts: 21,400	Re: Ghost Rider vs GR: Spirit of Vengeance But leaving out his powers doesnt mean he wont use them at a later, outright giving a character powers for no reason is just idiotic IMO. Thor himself didnt use some of his powers in the movie, doesnt mean he cant at a later date. We are know stuck with this iteration of Blackout. __________________ 2013: 1)Django Unchained-9(2)Star Trek Into Darkness-9(3)Iron Man 3-9(4)Evil Dead-8(5)Oblivion-8(6)The Last Stand-7.5(7)Oz: The Great And Powerful-7.5(8)Jack The Giant Slayer-7.5

03-01-2012, 05:03 AM	#131
The Morningstar Banned User Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: The place in between... Posts: 10,153	Re: Ghost Rider vs GR: Spirit of Vengeance The only good thing about this movie was when the Rider was on screen. Loved how he was portrayed as more of a creepy horror movie character. When he first turns up and is standing there swaying from side to side, twitching his head about... i loved it.

04-22-2012, 04:42 AM	#135
psylockolussus X42014 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The Future Posts: 8,373	Re: Ghost Rider vs GR: Spirit of Vengeance Ghost Rider hands down At least it entertained me in some way. Spirit of Vengeance was terrible. __________________ X-MEN: The Next Trilogy X4: Days of Future Past (2014) - Wolverine, Professor X, Storm, Beast, Rogue, Shadowcat, Iceman, Bishop, Colossus, Warpath, Blink, Magneto, Mystique, Trask X5: The Mutant Massacre (2016) - Wolverine, Cyclops, Storm, Rogue, Iceman, Angel, Shadowcat, Colossus, Bishop, Mr. Sinister, Marrow, Marauders X6: Age of Apocalypse (2018) - Wolverine, Cyclops, Storm, Psylocke, Rogue, Shadowcat, Iceman, Colossus, Apocalypse, Archangel, Horsemen The X-Men Central

06-19-2012, 03:40 AM	#136
<(o_o)> The Ewoks Ate Poor Yoda! Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 3,721	Re: Ghost Rider vs GR: Spirit of Vengeance IMO, Ghost Rider 1 was the better made movie overall. Spirit of Vengeance had its moments also mostly with better action scenes & all the other crazy stuff that Ghost Rider does but was sorely lacking in Ghost Rider one liners. __________________ "Welcome To The Worst Nightmare Of All Reality." "Maybe Things In Their Life Were Going Wrong & They Just Needed Someone To Take Their Spite Out On."

06-19-2012, 02:48 PM	#137
Art Damage The Joker Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: St. Louis Posts: 1,411	Re: Ghost Rider vs GR: Spirit of Vengeance SOV by far __________________ "I took Gotham's white knight and I brought him down to our level. It wasn't hard because madness as you know is like gravity... all it takes is a little push..." - The Joker

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