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Old 03-15-2012, 12:22 AM   #676
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Besides sequels, how the **** is Hans Zimmer a hack?! Compare Batman Begins, the Lion King, Kung Fu Panda, Gladiator, Inception and Pirates of the Caribbean - they're all COMPLETELY different! And on top of that he works with other composers like Jesper Kidd (Assassin's Creed - where even 2 was so different from 1, as was Revelations from the others).

The man has done over a hundred albums.
I don't think he's a hack, but If Horner is one for copying himself then I guess Zimmer is also guilty by charge. You don't hear Gladiator in Pirates of the Caribbean? Or Pirates in Rango? Or in King Arthur? Or the Rock? He writes everything pretty much in that same minor key. And it sounds like his followers do as well. Similar to Kraftwerk. I can't stand the bland repititious Kraftwerk droning of his recent Batman scores. It drowns out scenes like fingers on a chalkboard. It suffocates them, it certainly doesn't inhance them. I guess that's the point?? Yet he slight's Elfman's classic score. I'm not even an Elfman fan but his score soars above Zimmer's. I generally find Hans scores uninspiring. Although repetitive, I can't say that I have that problem with Horner.

Not to mention what Zimmer borrows from other composers. Didn't he get sued for a piece he "used" in Gladiator? And everything I hear from him recently sounds just like Ennio Morricone (an homage no doubt). Every composer is guilty to one degree or another, but don't act like Horner's the only culprit. Studios/directors often hire these guys based on scores they've done in the past and expect something similar.


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Old 03-15-2012, 12:32 AM   #677
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Zimmer does things in the same scales and minors, sure - no composer doesn't. It's impossible to do so with over a hundred soundtracks.

Horner on the other hands reuses tunes and pieces, and percussion solos over and over.

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Old 03-15-2012, 12:59 AM   #678
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Zimmer does things in the same scales and minors, sure - no composer doesn't. It's impossible to do so with over a hundred soundtracks.

Horner on the other hands reuses tunes and pieces, and percussion solos over and over.
At the end of the day I find Horner's best work >> Hans best work. One moves me emotionally and the other doesn't. You can pick these composer's scores apart all day long and find similarities, imitations, or seemingly blatent rip-offs. And you could interpret this in different ways. That's just the nature of the beast that is the film industry. Part of it is tied to demand for what was successful in the past.

The Lion King sounds similar at times to Stanley Myers Deer Hunter score. He was Zimmer's former partner. What does this mean? Rip-off? A tribute to his partner/mentor? At the end of the day the Lion King is a great score for many people and that's what's important. Leave the rest to the vultures. Or don't.

And James Horner is far from a hack. He has written some great scores. Period.


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Old 03-19-2012, 12:07 PM   #679
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I mentioned once that the soundtrack could be pop/indie music heavy (like Watchmen or Kick-Ass) as a result of Webb's influence. I wasn't surprised when they portrayed it as such in the NYCC/WonderCon footage.

I also just realized that Spider-Man 2 had lots of rock/folk type songs thrown into the soundtrack. Spider-Man really lends himself to that kind of thing.

However, I'd still want to see a creepy yet heroic theme similar to Elfman's. It was even drawn upon in Turn Off The Dark (great acrobatic show, sucky music)

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Old 04-28-2012, 05:39 PM   #680
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I was looking up some spidey videos on youtube and a lot of them were using the score Elfman made for the last trilogy
It just got me thinking about how much this movies score needs to be iconic like the last one was.
Hope Horner can do a great job!

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Old 04-28-2012, 10:22 PM   #681
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... There needs to be an iconic main theme like with Superman or even the '89 Batman.. no reason it can't happen. the composer just has to think big and epic.. release the song as a music video..

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Old 04-28-2012, 10:24 PM   #682
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Isn't this the James Horner theme?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVP235lY7G4

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Old 04-29-2012, 12:09 AM   #683
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That sounds nothing like James Horner to me. Probably generic production house music like the Avengers website music was.

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Old 04-29-2012, 12:32 AM   #684
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... There needs to be an iconic main theme like with Superman or even the '89 Batman.. no reason it can't happen. the composer just has to think big and epic.. release the song as a music video..
Horner can certainly deliver an iconic score, but the tone of the film will be a factor. Elfman's score was in step with Burton's operatic vision of Batman and Williams' Superman score was a great reflection of a character who is cosmic. I want this new score to reflect Spidey's world. Emotional, but more of a street feel. Less whimsical then Elfman's score.


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Old 05-09-2012, 11:13 PM   #685
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Sony Classical will be releasing the score album. The release date TBA.

http://filmmusicreporter.com/2012/05...der-man-score/

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Old 05-09-2012, 11:46 PM   #686
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And there you have it

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Sony Classical will be releasing the score album. The release date TBA.

http://filmmusicreporter.com/2012/05...der-man-score/
Excellent, thanks for the heads up.

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The new scene where he's shooting webs on either side looks awesome!

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Old 05-10-2012, 12:42 PM   #689
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His work on titanic was amazing, still love that album, his work on avatar not so much. I hope he pulls it out of the bag on this, i was kinda hoping Jablonsky (as Zimmer would be doing The Dark Knight Rises)

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I really like Horner, and was made up to see him attached to the film. I hope he delivers a memorable spidey theme. Still waiting for that awesome live action sound.

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That sounds nothing like James Horner to me. Probably generic production house music like the Avengers website music was.
Could it be that he tried something different with a different movie? =O
naaah, why would he ever do that

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Sony just tweeted a page from Horner's Amazing Spider-Man credit song. Anyone who can read music, can you tell us how it is?


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haha, that's like a note of the piece. It's hardly worth making a recreation.

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I'm a musician and I could recreate it, but as zackylu said, it's such a small portion so it's not worth the trouble.

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Old 05-22-2012, 04:20 PM   #695
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Track list of the soundtrack (I think there's some spoilers in there): http://filmmusicreporter.com/2012/05...track-details/

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Lots of spoilers! I did notice...

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The final battle is actually spread across the school. the sewers, and Oscorp. Cool. It's like one huge, long, chase/fight.

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I only paid attention to the first and last track b/c of spoilers. Looks like there's going to be a main title and end credits (hopefully it'll make the film unedited unlike Elfman's Spideman) too. I figure the album would be over 75 min since most of Horner's soundtracks tend to be that long from what I gather. Also makes sense it has 20 tracks. This is probably most of the score in the film. Curious of what cover art they'll use. Now hopefully Horner cooked up something great b/c he's usually hit or miss with me. I hope this score is mostly fresh and inspired and not typical of his rehashing of themes from many of his scores. Though it's probably inevitable. Still not sure about picking this up until I hear how it is in the film.

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Lots of spoilers! I did notice...

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
The final battle is actually spread across the school. the sewers, and Oscorp. Cool. It's like one huge, long, chase/fight.
Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
the cops are probably involved in that fight too

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So I'm assuming that the tracklisting is in chronological order in regards to the film? Going off of that, I wonder if certain parts of the plot will be told non-linearly, especially considering the title for the 2nd track.

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I skipped most of it, but I can infer that near the end
Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
Gwen breaks up with Peter. We saw set pics of this scene being filmed.

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