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Old 04-30-2012, 03:26 AM   #776
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Most definitely. I wish Batman '89 would get a full-on restoration.
It will never look as good as Returns IMHO. Part of that is simply the difference between a $40-50m budget and a $80m budget. I think B89 looks really solid when you take everything into consideration.

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Oh I bought a copy of it on Blu-Ray immediately after seeing how bad the DVD looked.
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What version DVD's do you have? Are you talking about the anthology DVD's? Cause I have the anthology in both DVD and Blu Ray, and I thought they all looked good. Now, I had an old copy of Returns, but it was just one of those crappy transfers, and this was before the anthology was released.
Actually, come to think of it, the version I watched was the combo pack (with B89 on one side of the disc, BR on the other), that might be way the transfer looked so iffy.

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Old 04-30-2012, 09:19 AM   #778
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I have the Anthology dvd of Batman '89 and it looks great on a widescreen tv.

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I like the grainy/fuzzy quality of Batman '89... It adds to the atmosphere.

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I like the grainy/fuzzy quality of Batman '89... It adds to the atmosphere.
Indeed it makes the grittiness of that movies Gotham even more prevalent

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Truth be told, I think my protector is very unforgiving. It will show even the most subtle transfer flaws.

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^ You def need to upgrade to blu-ray. If not for Batman, then for Batman Returns. They are night & day from the "regular" DVD releases in terms of quality.

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I have the Anthology on blu-ray, and all four of the old Batman movies turned out well, but Batman Returns looks particularly good.

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Um. I did upgrade to Blu-Ray. Months ago.

I said that like five times.

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I think Batman and Returns look fantastic on BluRay, Im a bigger fan of B89 but hot damn Return looks fantastic on BluRay...

on a side note that somthing that always threw me. and i understand why logically it happened but, lol at Gotham getting a complete facelift between films. same world, director, cast, but wtf happened to the city? idk i dislike things like that.

Granted TDK and TDKR are filmed in different cities, i feel like Gotham was so grand I can easier believe the events happening in different parts of the city, where as B89 felt like super small, everythin looked like it happened in the same 5 blocks lol. same for Returns, city square is used over and over.

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That's because TDK and BB have the luxury of shooting in real cities. While '89 and BR were limited by being shot on sets. They have different feels and looks deliberately. Burton wanted to make it a vague follow up to the original and not a direct continuation because he's not a fan of sequels.

Thus a different production design and everything. They have themes that connect them but they're not superficially identical in the least (even Wayne Manor is different) on purpose. Nolan had a different outlook and made his movies more episodic.

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I always heard that was because, at the time, Burton wasn't a fan of sequels, and wanted to something visually fresh and different with Returns. I mean, while it had plot lines that carried over from B89, thematically, BR was very much a standalone film.

Plus it didn't help that Anton Furst wasn't involved/dead at the time.

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Plus it didn't help that Anton Furst wasn't involved/dead at the time.
That was going to be my point. Even if they wanted to have the same look in Returns as B89, it would be impossible without Furst. Different designers will come up with different things.

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Both bluerays are beautiful, couldnt live without them!

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I always heard that was because, at the time, Burton wasn't a fan of sequels, and wanted to something visually fresh and different with Returns. I mean, while it had plot lines that carried over from B89, thematically, BR was very much a standalone film.

Plus it didn't help that Anton Furst wasn't involved/dead at the time.
That's pretty much it...

It's a shame they let go of Anton Furst's Gotham, especially seeing as they kept the stages standing for so long.

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Yeah, I've always been rather conflicted by that particular choice by Burton.

BR is great and all, but B89 was just such a pitch perfect vision of Batman for me, that it never had a direct sequel is probably one of my greatest film-related disappointments.

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Yeah, I've always been rather conflicted by that particular choice by Burton.

BR is great and all, but B89 was just such a pitch perfect vision of Batman for me, that it never had a direct sequel is probably one of my greatest film-related disappointments.
Definitely... I would have loved to have seen Michelle's Catwoman running around the rooftops of Furst's Gotham instead of Bo Welch's matchbox city.

I love BR, and fully appreciate the artistic sensibilities Burton was going for... but still.

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I do love the Gotham Zoo setup though.

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I do love the Gotham Zoo setup though.
Oh BR Gotham is totally beautiful in it's own right.

I love snowy Gotham.

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Um. I did upgrade to Blu-Ray. Months ago.

I said that like five times.
Sorry I must've missed it, I usually skip your posts.

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Sorry I must've missed it, I usually skip your posts.
So how does it feel to live in the most inconsequential part of the world ever?

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I do love the Gotham Zoo setup though.
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I have the Anthology on blu-ray, and all four of the old Batman movies turned out well, but Batman Returns looks particularly good.
I agree, it's the best looking of the four.

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I wouldn't mind Burton AND Keaton returning to complete their trilogy with an older Batman. If only...
That would actually be awesome.

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