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Old 05-03-2012, 04:46 PM   #601
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Lets say... Grayson is in the film.
Hypothetical?

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So your flat out confirming that he's in this film?Or are you trolling?

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Why would I troll?

I'm telling you. As far as I know,Dick Grayson is in this film and he's not John Blake (which was absurd to begin with)

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It's the little boy.

The mystery has been solved.

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Why would I troll?

I'm telling you. As far as I know,Dick Grayson is in this film and he's not John Blake (which was absurd to begin with)
Hey,that;s good enough for me,thanks for letting that slip.It probably is the kid Blake was talking to.

I still think Blake takes up mantle.sorry bro.

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Taking up the mantle is a different story. Depends what you mean, if you think he dresses up like Batman then I think you're missing the point of these films and the importance of Bruce Wayne

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Taking up the mantle is a different story. Depends what you mean, if you think he dresses up like Batman then I think you're missing the point of these films and the importance of Bruce Wayne
I'm thinking he continues the fight after everythings said and done,and puts on or implied that he's the new Batman,with Bruce's blessing while He and Selina retire.

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Blake continuing on to be Batman I don't think thematically makes much sense. I think it will be Batman has inspired the average Gotham citizens, not the copycats or freaks - and they begin to stand up for themselves. Blake being the one face we follow that represents that. A move away from vigilantes. And with no masked vigilantes, Joker type villains don't have the same thrill of coming on over to take on the City's main protector. The Batman mantle doesn't have to be passed on for it be a legend.

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My sources just confirmed that Dick Grayson isn't in this film. Sorry guys.

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My sources tell me that this movie is already in the works to remade. The studio is saying they want to go in the direction of making it more dark and gritty like The Dark Knight and if Michael Bay is directing Batman will have an alien origin.

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My guess is that one of the orphans is Dick Grayson.

Nothing more, nothing less. Just a nice easter egg.

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How is Blake supposed to be Batman or 'take the reins' when he dies in the movie?

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Lets say... Grayson is in the film.
Wait, what, what, what?

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My sources just confirmed that Dick Grayson isn't in this film. Sorry guys.

who to believe? both seem legit.

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I believe Christopher Nolan. He made the films. And he said that Robin would never be in any of his movies. He also said that he would never give Batman any kind of sidekick.

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The difference this time is that he's not aided by Batman, he comes in a time where it's just Mortal vs. God and THAT commitment to Gotham is a wake up call for someone like Bruce who, stymied in his self pity, sits around and initially can watch Gotham slowly come undone.

The point is that there is only ONE Batman and that's Bruce and only Bruce can bring Batman back and fight off Bane but when he doesn't do that, average people like Blake, Gordon and Foley go to EXTREMES to fight Bane. That sacrifice, that willingness to put themselves in a situation that seems like certain death is the spirit of Gotham, the inspiration of good that Bruce talked about in BB and TDK. Not Brian Douglass trying to fight crime with guns as Batman but cops going the extra distance to fight crime and in some ways average people like Selina Kyle putting their lives on the line to fight this crime.

When Blake sees those bridges collapse in front of his eyes, it's a moment. #1 this is happening to his city #2 He's starting to understand this is what HE's up against, without Batman, Just his gun and badge and people like Gordon.

And he still goes forward. This is why he's important because when there's nothing left in Gotham, they're going to need someone like Blake who will help rebuild a city broken in multiple ways.
Essentially Blake and Selina (to some extent) are the symbols of hope for Bruce, as Bruce spent his life looking to inspire Gotham, Gotham ends up inspiring him. I'd say that's pretty full circle.

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I believe Christopher Nolan. He made the films. And he said that Robin would never be in any of his movies. He also said that he would never give Batman any kind of sidekick.
You can have Dick Grayson without having Robin actually. About the sidekick thing, Catwoman seems to be an ally. Does that make her a sidekick? Not exactly, but it's enough, IMO, to consider that Batman has a sidekick of sort.

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Wow, the pair of you need to chill out.

Rag, I can hardly blame the guy for not picking up on sarcasm, when in written form it's not a simple thing to detect. If there's no malice in your post that's fair enough, but from my perspective it is pretty hard to tell.

Everyone should be free to their opinion, but try to keep it friendly guys. Some people love Robin, be it plot driven or not and that's fair enough, he's a big character in Batman history and those who have taken a shine to that character are clutching at straws to see him brought to the big screen by any means possible. Granted, I HIGHLY doubt that Blake is going to be an interpretation of Robin, but if he can show the similar drive to help out Batman in a time of need, he can somehow be a substitute for that character they hold so dear. If that's what they want to tell themselves and it doesn't hinder the story in any way then I'm all for it.

I Love Robin. All of them (except Sthephanie Brown). But I still failt to understand how it could be considered interesting to have John Blake being Robin or Dick Grayson. Robin is not just a sidekick. He's a member of the bat-family. Dick is the person who made Bruce accepting his human side, by making him a kind of father figure. If Blake is Robin or Dick, all of that will be lost. And that's fat from cool if you ask me.

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Blake continuing on to be Batman I don't think thematically makes much sense. I think it will be Batman has inspired the average Gotham citizens, not the copycats or freaks - and they begin to stand up for themselves. Blake being the one face we follow that represents that. A move away from vigilantes. And with no masked vigilantes, Joker type villains don't have the same thrill of coming on over to take on the City's main protector. The Batman mantle doesn't have to be passed on for it be a legend.
Damn straight. IMO, Blake is going to represent a new generation of Gotham citizens (starting from the end of TDKR and into the future) who stand up against crime without a mask, which was Bruce's goal from the very beginning. Show them that ordinary people can stand up to crime, but he has to show them they can do it without the mask.

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No Robin in these films, please. If they want to list some kid in the end credits as Dick Grayson, or Oswald Cobblepot or whatever then who cares.

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No Robin in these films, please. If they want to list some kid in the end credits as Dick Grayson, or Oswald Cobblepot or whatever then who cares.
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THIS. Nolan said no Robin, not no Dick Grayson.

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They can have a George Washington, an Arnold Schwartzenegger, and Elvis Presley in name for some other random background characters too...as long as there's no significance to it other than that happening to be their names.

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