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For one he's able to take on both Hulk and Thor at once with his natural abilities, oh and when he uses the "Infinity Gauntlet" that becomes a universal threat.
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He is far more powerful than Loki, that's for sure, but there's still a ton of villains and groups in the Avengers rogues' gallery that can give the team one helluva fight for many sequels to come. Posters here are just exaggerating (and are just plain wrong) when they act like he needs to be saved for the climax, because (they believe, wrongly) that Avengers will have no more "big guns" to fight after him.
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I would love to know who they will cast in a sequel...
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He also actively wants to destroy everything in the universe while most uber-powerful being just exist and maintain balance.
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Because he's meant to be the ultimate threat. There's a reason that he is the man behind the curtain in 1 and teased before a smaller more personal movie. They are building him up. Could they have done it differently? Maybe, but at this point, thinking he'll get paid off in 2 and that the Avengers trilogy will suddenly take a new direction with a new background baddie in #3 just sounds silly.
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Notice that the Pym reference was an old man saying he had a friend (usually a peer, btw) who had dealt with SHIELD in the past. That's not an origin story that's coming up, that's something that already happened, a WHILE back. There's little things to hang hope on, sure, but all the signs point to 60s spy Ant-Man. But at least we know that he might be in the MCU, even if he's not in the present day. As an added bonus, even if Pym is in the past, he can still make Ultron to terrorize the Avengers in the present day, can't he?
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Avengers ---> Loki tries to conquer the world. Avengers 2 ---> Ultron tries to wipe out humanity. Human extermination is worse than humans being conquered. The stakes are increased. Avengers 3 ---> Thanos wants to wipe out all half the living beings in the universe. The genocide of half the universe is worse than the genocide of the human race. The stakes are increased even further. That makes more sense then... Avengers ---> Loki tries to conquer the world. Avengers 2 ---> Thanos wants to wipe out all half the living beings in the universe. Avengers 3 ---> Ultron wants to wipe out the human race. ...or... Avengers ---> Loki tries to conquer the world. Avengers 2 ---> Thanos wants to wipe out all half the living beings in the universe. Avengers 3 ---> The Avengers battle it out over the SHRA. In both those cases the stakes DROP from the 2nd to 3rd movie. That's not how you tell a story. If the stakes in the 3rd act are less then they were in the 2nd act then the story's a failure. The Avengers have plenty of villains which could be classed as big guns, but the fact is that there is no villain they have that can surpass Thanos. |
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^Booyah. This man has the patience to spell it out. Kudos.
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It's DESTROYING it. And that's where you show that you don't understand Thanos at all. Quote:
Empire Strikes Back: the Rebellion abandons an isolated ice planet outpost; Luke starts training to be a Jedi; Han and Chewie look up some old friends on Cloud City. Are you saying ESB was a failure for dropping the stakes? You keep trying to play up the myth that the stakes have to keep getting higher and higher with each successive episode, and that's false. That's Bayformer thinking. The stakes don't have to be *higher,* they just have to be *different.*
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I cant wait to see the introduction of Antman and Wasp.
Ive only read The Ultimates Vol 1 and 2 and seen the latest animates series... so they seem like a MUST for the sequel. I hope that other 2014 proyect is the Antman movie. If not, I dont see them introducing him suddenly on the sequel. |
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ESB started with the Empire putting the Rebels on the run and ended with Luke getting his hand chopped off and Han frozen in liquid carbonite. That looks like an increase in stakes to me. And don't forget that ROTJ ended with a Death Star that was even bigger than the first and the Emperor being a full-fledged villain. Quote:
Caveman hunt sabertooth. Cavement kill rabbit to sustain himself in hunt. Caveman kill sabertooth and drag carcass back. That's a better story than... Caveman hunt sabertooth. Caveman kill sabertooth. Caveman kill rabbit on way back. In the latter case, the story's deflated a bit by having the most significant event occur in the middle of the story as opposed to the end. Quote:
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Bigger is not better. There comes a point where audiences just get numbed to that kind of overkill. Whedon has already hinted that TA2 will be smaller and more personal; and yet I can guarantee you that he'll still be increasing the tension and building the drama *without* having to make a sequel that's "bigger" than Avengers 1.
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You know what? You're right.
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Here's a clever way to do CIVIL WAR imo... have it occur at the END of Avengers 2 and have "Phase 3" of the solo movies take place during CIVIL WAR. Thus leading up to Avengers 3: Reassembled (vs Thanos).
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He can still appear in Avengers 2, in a *smaller* role. That's what I'm saying. The big face-off doesn't happen until Avengers 3, but Thanos is still a visible presence (with dialogue and everything) in Avengers 2. And a fairly prominent role in GOTG, *if* GOTG comes out before 2017.
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And personally I'm hoping he turns up in Guardians of the Galaxy, maybe even as an ally. If the enemy is the Universal Church of Truth then they could do a loose adaptation of the storyline where Thanos teams up with Adam Warlock to take down the Magus. |
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But then again, he's been "killed" several times, often ignominiously. (Ka-Zar comes to mind....) But when your main squeeze is Death Herself, you never really die.
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This is my attempt to help clear some of the confusion people are having...
to everyone who is assuming because thanos was show at the end of the avengers that thanos must therefore be the main villain in the avengers 2 this is why i think people are disagreeing with you just because their is a scene at the end of a marvel movie does not mean it has something to do with the sequel of that movie, for example at the end of Iron Man 2 we are shown agent coulson and thor's hammer which set up thor as the next marvel movie which was thor... that means thanos being show does not mean he has to be the main villain in the avengers 2 what i guess i am trying to say in the simplest terms is that the post credit scene theme that marvel has been using, is mainly to set up this shared marvel cinematic universe and sometimes to directly help set up another marvel movie iron man 1 - introduces nick fury and the avengers initiative hulk - tony stark talking to ross about the giant green rage monster iron man 2 - reveals thor's hammer and sets up thor has the next movie thor - sets up the cosmic cube (for capt america and also the avengers), Selvig working with SHIELD and loki capt america - scene w/ fury getting capt america to join the avengers/shield and basically a trailer for the avengers the theory i am currently prescribing to is that thanos will be the main villain in the avengers 3 and possibly as a puppet master in the avengers 2 much like in the avengers 1 (with the off chance that he could be doing this in thor 2 as well since that is where the infinity gauntlet and the cosmic cube now reside) also, i think the post credit scene could be like the one in thor where it helps set up two movies... by setting up thanos for the guardians of the galaxy movie I am not saying that thanos won't be in the avengers 2, i am hoping he will be in it but in the background moving chess pieces but in a way where he is referenced or seen more than in the avengers 1, im just saying he won't be the main villain Last edited by Rocket_Raccoon; 05-06-2012 at 01:24 AM. |
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Avengers 2 Avengers 3 who cares man, as long as it's done well, and surpasses or matches A1 I'm good to go man, let's do this!
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I think ratcheting up the infighting in part two is necessary, and a good direction to go in, and that's the closest we'll get to civil war. There just aren't enough superheroes in existence to have a war. Maybe the Avengers go rogue against SHIELD, maybe? I dunno, but there's only six of them, and only four of them have any superpowers whatsoever. That's not a civil war, that's a personal disagreement.
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I think Thanos will continue to have an ominous presence in future Marvel films. He'll be the "Emperor" so to speak.
The first film did well to build him up as a threat, and we didn't even see him until the credits. I think the best thing to do is carry on hinting at this powerful being behind the scenes, then when he does finally turn up in all his glory, it's a true "holy ****" moment and by then everyone who has been along for the Marvel ride will know and understand what all the fuss is about. |
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Additions to The Avengers:
Ant-Man Wasp Black Panther With these additions (particularly the first two), I could do without Hawkeye and Black Widow. I'm all for given them mentions (handling SHIELD assignments overseas), but Marvel can't just keep adding characters without subtracting a few, and these two are the ones I'd be least likely to miss. And if Marvel gives us another solo Hulk film in the near future, I could do without him in TA2 as well. But after what Whedon and Ruffalo did with the character, I loathe the idea of having to wait until The Avengers 3 (2018 at the earliest) to see him on screen again. Villain: Ultron I was under the assumption that the Thanos easter egg was just that: an easter egg meant to get fans excited about future possibilities. I don't think it was meant to be any sort of confirmation that he'd be the villain in the sequel. It established Thanos in this universe. That's about as far as you should read into it for now.
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What if avengers 2 isn't the first time the avengers ? Like between movies, they worked together, fought random villains and whatnot.
That would leave space for supplement material like comics or whatever. It just seems odd for them to wait4 years to reform. |
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