Can you track the comic source? - Page 2

AnneFan · 05-08-2012, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Who

They both strike me with the same savage nature.

I can see it.

About those climbing images being a coincidence or not, it’s more about the image itself, IMO. This action can easily be transplanted onto Bruce and still be a visual reference. Thematically as well, given he’s trying to escape from somewhere. And who knows, perhaps TDKR Bane has climbed the pit at some point and we see him do it?

Tvar10 · 05-10-2012, 11:41 AM

The part in BB where Batman interrogates Flass by hanging him upside down was done in Long Halloween To one of the Falcone's I think

MrWayne · 05-10-2012, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by AnneFan

I can see it.

About those climbing images being a coincidence or not, it’s more about the image itself, IMO. This action can easily be transplanted onto Bruce and still be a visual reference. Thematically as well, given he’s trying to escape from somewhere. And who knows, perhaps TDKR Bane has climbed the pit at some point and we see him do it?

Bane seems strong enough to be able to climb out of that pit with no prob. Maybe he to build himslef up to be that big to have the strength to eventually make it out.

Just_Human · 05-10-2012, 01:15 PM

Not to be OT, but I the scene in TDK where Joker beats Batman with a steel bar must have been inspired by a Death in the Family, where Joker beats Robin with a steel bar.

Plus, one of the camera angles is the same as the panel

batlovescatDC · 05-10-2012, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight15

The part in BB where Batman interrogates Flass by hanging him upside down was done in Long Halloween To one of the Falcone's I think

It was done to Flass in the comics. I can't remember what comic it was though.

RustyCage · 05-11-2012, 02:06 AM

RustyCage · 05-11-2012, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DarkKnight15

The part in BB where Batman interrogates Flass by hanging him upside down was done in Long Halloween To one of the Falcone's I think

dukeofvanx · 05-11-2012, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RustyCage

thatsssssss itttt..

SingItWithMeNow · 05-11-2012, 03:36 AM

Photos are always better than vague descriptions :-p

batlovescatDC · 05-11-2012, 03:57 AM

I can't wait to see all the different shots, storypoints, and lines that Nolan has done straight adaptations of in TDKR just for us fanboys. He always does such good stuff.

ThreadPool · 05-11-2012, 07:07 AM

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

But, but, but... Gotham isn't teh gothic enough!

...

Armalarm · 05-11-2012, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RustyCage

It's from haunted knight

munchie64 · 05-11-2012, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ThreadPool

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

But, but, but... Gotham isn't teh gothic enough!

...

Gotham actually looks surprisingly modern in that panel.

ThreadPool · 05-11-2012, 08:15 AM

Exactly. Remember when people were complaining about Gotham not looking "gothic" and "fantastical" enough? (still happens a bit) I was wondering if they had picked up a Batman comic in the last 30 or so years.
These are some really great comparisons guys.

HighFivingMF · 05-11-2012, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RustyCage

You should see the TDK parallels. Maybe I'll work on a big post for that sometime.

Ooooooh.

RustyCage · 05-11-2012, 03:07 PM

Gotham is very rarely depicted as gothic. It's usually just a gargoyle here or there, or a cathedral, amongst an otherwise modern style city (in which you can usually find those two things anyway).

Anno_Domini · 05-11-2012, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RustyCage

Gotham is very rarely depicted as gothic. It's usually just a gargoyle here or there, or a cathedral, amongst an otherwise modern style city (in which you can usually find those two things anyway).

Which was found in TSSM and even in Spider-Man 3....so I suppose those two were gothic as well, lol.

RustyCage · 05-11-2012, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Anno_Domini

Which was found in TSSM and even in Spider-Man 3....so I suppose those two were gothic as well, lol.

Remember 'Bruce'? That was the nickname Spidey gave that gargoyle he sometimes talks to right? Definitely a Batman nod. Haha.

Just_Human · 05-11-2012, 07:58 PM

This reminds me of the aftermath of the explosion that injured Harvey

Except that Batman wasnt holding Dent while standing on the debris

RustyCage · 05-11-2012, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Just_Human

This reminds me of the aftermath of the explosion that injured Harvey

Except that Batman wasnt holding Dent while standing on the debris

I wouldn't be surprised if they drew on this when writing Harvey's story for TDK. Bruce was looking for a successor in a way.

batlovescatDC · 05-12-2012, 04:53 AM

As far as story goes for TDKR... there's obviously influence from No Man's Land, Knightfall, and The Dark Knight Returns. But I also see a bit of influence in both TDK & TDKR from Dark Victory (which makes sense, seeing that DV is the follow-up to The Long Halloween which was a major influence for BB).

The only reason I say that is because the plot of Dark Victory is "Once a town controlled by organized crime, Gotham City suddenly finds itself being run by lawless freaks. Witnessing his city's dark evolution, the Dark Knight completes his transformation into the city's greatest defender." That could pretty much be a basic summary of the plots for TDK & TDKR.

Bathead · 05-21-2012, 07:34 PM

never mind

RustyCage · 05-21-2012, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by batlovescatDC

As far as story goes for TDKR... there's obviously influence from No Man's Land, Knightfall, and The Dark Knight Returns. But I also see a bit of influence in both TDK & TDKR from Dark Victory (which makes sense, seeing that DV is the follow-up to The Long Halloween which was a major influence for BB).

The only reason I say that is because the plot of Dark Victory is "Once a town controlled by organized crime, Gotham City suddenly finds itself being run by lawless freaks. Witnessing his city's dark evolution, the Dark Knight completes his transformation into the city's greatest defender." That could pretty much be a basic summary of the plots for TDK & TDKR.

It influenced TDK quite a lot too, in very specific ways.

I'm trying to think of the influence on BB other than Falcone being in it.

Doc Holliday · 05-22-2012, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Who

They both strike me with the same savage nature.

Just read Vengeance of Bane today...quite good. It alone gives me all the hope for the characterization of Bane in this movie. And I'm sure Nolan has read it since it's part of Knightfall.

Doc Holliday · 05-22-2012, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RustyCage

It influenced TDK quite a lot too, in very specific ways.

I'm trying to think of the influence on BB other than Falcone being in it.

Yeah, TLH was a much bigger influence on TDK than BB. Nolan cited it specifically in several interviews.

05-10-2012, 11:41 AM	#27
Tvar10 The Fire Rises Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Oxford, CT Posts: 617	Re: Can you track the comic source? The part in BB where Batman interrogates Flass by hanging him upside down was done in Long Halloween To one of the Falcone's I think

05-10-2012, 01:15 PM	#29
Just_Human Side-Kick Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 894	Re: Can you track the comic source? Not to be OT, but I the scene in TDK where Joker beats Batman with a steel bar must have been inspired by a Death in the Family, where Joker beats Robin with a steel bar. Plus, one of the camera angles is the same as the panel

05-11-2012, 02:06 AM	#31
RustyCage Come what may.. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gotham Posts: 3,936	Re: Can you track the comic source? __________________ Why do we fall?

05-11-2012, 03:36 AM	#34
SingItWithMeNow Side-Kick Join Date: May 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 1,510	Re: Can you track the comic source? Photos are always better than vague descriptions :-p

05-11-2012, 03:57 AM	#35
batlovescatDC Tragic Love Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 2,041	Re: Can you track the comic source? I can't wait to see all the different shots, storypoints, and lines that Nolan has done straight adaptations of in TDKR just for us fanboys. He always does such good stuff. __________________ "There's a storm coming, Mr. Wayne. You and your friends better batten down the hatches. Because when it hits, you're all gonna wonder how you ever thought you could live so large, and leave so little for the rest of us."- Selina Kyle in TDKR

05-11-2012, 08:15 AM	#39
ThreadPool Internet Narcissist Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: SuperHeroHyperbole! Posts: 699	Re: Can you track the comic source? Exactly. Remember when people were complaining about Gotham not looking "gothic" and "fantastical" enough? (still happens a bit) I was wondering if they had picked up a Batman comic in the last 30 or so years. These are some really great comparisons guys. __________________ Jessie Ware Sweet Talk S U P E R H U M A N O I D S SO STRANGE Tegan and Sara Shock to Your System

05-11-2012, 03:07 PM	#41
RustyCage Come what may.. Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Gotham Posts: 3,936	Re: Can you track the comic source? Gotham is very rarely depicted as gothic. It's usually just a gargoyle here or there, or a cathedral, amongst an otherwise modern style city (in which you can usually find those two things anyway). __________________ Why do we fall?

05-11-2012, 07:58 PM	#44
Just_Human Side-Kick Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 894	Re: Can you track the comic source? This reminds me of the aftermath of the explosion that injured Harvey Except that Batman wasnt holding Dent while standing on the debris

05-12-2012, 04:53 AM	#46
batlovescatDC Tragic Love Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 2,041	Re: Can you track the comic source? As far as story goes for TDKR... there's obviously influence from No Man's Land, Knightfall, and The Dark Knight Returns. But I also see a bit of influence in both TDK & TDKR from Dark Victory (which makes sense, seeing that DV is the follow-up to The Long Halloween which was a major influence for BB). The only reason I say that is because the plot of Dark Victory is "Once a town controlled by organized crime, Gotham City suddenly finds itself being run by lawless freaks. Witnessing his city's dark evolution, the Dark Knight completes his transformation into the city's greatest defender." That could pretty much be a basic summary of the plots for TDK & TDKR. __________________ "There's a storm coming, Mr. Wayne. You and your friends better batten down the hatches. Because when it hits, you're all gonna wonder how you ever thought you could live so large, and leave so little for the rest of us."- Selina Kyle in TDKR

05-21-2012, 07:34 PM	#47
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