Who thinks Thanos is going to be saved as the main villain in Avengers 3?

[dbxkilla]

In my opinion Thanos is probably going to be the main villain in avengers 3 no matter if they teased them in avengers

[cherokeesam]

I believe Thanos is about to become the Uber-villain of the MCU. Not only will we see him in Avengers 2, imho, but probably bits and pieces of him in other MCU films, including Thor 2, Dr. Strange and GOTG.

[BrollySupersj]

Originally Posted by cherokeesam

I believe Thanos is about to become the Uber-villain of the MCU. Not only will we see him in Avengers 2, imho, but probably bits and pieces of him in other MCU films, including Thor 2, Dr. Strange and GOTG.

Kinda like how Agent Coulson had small parts in Iron Man 1, 2, and Thor.

[psylockolussus]

I think he'll be the main villain in the Avengers 2.

[DrCosmic]

What do you mean by saved? They've made Thanos the universal threat. He's not going to jump from the shadows to the front lines. He'll appear in Avengers 2 to evaluate their capabilities or something, but he certainly won't be defeated in TA2. That just isn't going to happen.

[dbxkilla]

by saved i mean that he wouldn't be the one that the avengers fight until avengers 3

[MENTALLECT]

Thanos is the best supervillain in comics if written correctly. He is stronger than the Hulk, immortal, smarter than Reed Richard, Banner, Tony Stark, etc. He is feared by even Gods and Cosmic Beings, in love with Death, and completely dedicated to the annihilation of life. He is overqualified as a simple Marvel threat based on his comic book accomplishments, so they will certainly have to decrease his capabilities to make him beatable.

They could make the next Might Avengers movie universally scaled and bring in Galactus, the Fantastic Four, Spiderman, and other superheroes to fight Thanos. Most likely, it will be smaller in scope and not to justice to Comicdoms greatest villain.

[Lady Marion]

I hope and think they save Thanos for part 3. When Thanos is defeated in part 2 what comes next, I wonder?

[Chris B]

I'd agree with saving him for the third film. I'm hoping for Ultron myself.

[Alexei Belyakov]

Based on the interview Whedon gave on Thanos, its safe to say they're going the Star Wars route with The Avengers series. In Avengers 2, Thanos will either defeat the team or enslave Earth (or both) & leave the film in a very Empire Strikes Backish way. In Avengers 3, they'll figure out how to defeat him & he'll fall Palpatine-style. In A New Hope, the heroes won the battle, not the war. In The Avengers, the heroes won the battle not the war. In Empire, a hero fell (if only temporarily) & the others were left in peril. In Avengers 2, I'm sure someone will die & things will end bad for Mankind. The architecture for this series is perfect IMO. In 2018, if all goes as planned, we should be getting the ultimate showdown between Earth's Mightiest Heroes & The Mad Titan. Who knows where they'll go from there, if anywhere.

[Blackman]

Originally Posted by Alexei Belyakov

Based on the interview Whedon gave on Thanos, its safe to say they're going the Star Wars route with The Avengers series. In Avengers 2, Thanos will either defeat the team or enslave Earth (or both) & leave the film in a very Empire Strikes Backish way. In Avengers 3, they'll figure out how to defeat him & he'll fall Palpatine-style. In A New Hope, the heroes won the battle, not the war. In The Avengers, the heroes won the battle not the war. In Empire, a hero fell (if only temporarily) & the others were left in peril. In Avengers 2, I'm sure someone will die & things will end bad for Mankind. The architecture for this series is perfect IMO. In 2018, if all goes as planned, we should be getting the ultimate showdown between Earth's Mightiest Heroes & The Mad Titan. Who knows where they'll go from there, if anywhere.

I usually like when film series go that route. The hero rises in the first, falls in the second, and redeems in the third.
However, I wonder how they would potentially handle Thanos "winning" when they would still potentially have Thor 3, Cap 3, Iron Man 4, and others that comes before Avengers 3

[MMMMM...Dounuts]

I think he'll be saved for Avengers 3 and work behind the scenes up until then.

[MarvelKnight]

Originally Posted by Alexei Belyakov

Based on the interview Whedon gave on Thanos, its safe to say they're going the Star Wars route with The Avengers series. In Avengers 2, Thanos will either defeat the team or enslave Earth (or both) & leave the film in a very Empire Strikes Backish way. In Avengers 3, they'll figure out how to defeat him & he'll fall Palpatine-style. In A New Hope, the heroes won the battle, not the war. In The Avengers, the heroes won the battle not the war. In Empire, a hero fell (if only temporarily) & the others were left in peril. In Avengers 2, I'm sure someone will die & things will end bad for Mankind. The architecture for this series is perfect IMO. In 2018, if all goes as planned, we should be getting the ultimate showdown between Earth's Mightiest Heroes & The Mad Titan. Who knows where they'll go from there, if anywhere.

Is this interview online or anywhere?

[dbxkilla]

Originally Posted by MMMMM...Dounuts

I think he'll be saved for Avengers 3 and work behind the scenes up until then.

i was thinking the same thing

[cherokeesam]

It depends on how much of Thanos we see during "Phase II."

Don't quote me on this, cuz it's just a hunch, but I think Feige is working on a theory that one megavillain is the "central" villain of each phase of the MCU. MCU Phase I was IM 1 & 2, Thor, CATFA, TIH, and Avengers. Loki was the "central villain" of that phase, but the real unifying thread there was, of course, the Avengers themselves assembling.

I believe MCU Phase II is shaping up to be Thor 2, IM 3, CA2, Avengers 2 and at least one unnamed movie (that may or may not be Ant-Man, Dr. Strange, TIH2, or GOTG as the likeliest candidates). I also believe, as I stated earlier, that Thanos will play small to middlin' roles in some, if not all, of these films, and culminate in a showdown in Avengers 2.

And yes, that means I don't believe in the trilogy theory. I do not believe for one second that Marvel Studios has set themselves up to be finite, to already have an "ending" planned for their grand business venture. MCU Phase III will take the Avengers in a new direction, *minus* Thanos, but there'll be a whole new story arc with a central villain set up for an Avengers 3 showdown. Could be a Kree-Skrull story arc, a Kang story arc, a MOE story arc, Inhumans, Atlantis Attacks, or something else.

[Alexei Belyakov]

After hearing Whedon talk about Thanos, I'm 99% sure he will be the primary threat during Avengers 2 & 3. Phase II will culminate with the first battle between Thanos & Midgard's heroes - which should have a much larger roster come 2015. By the end of Avengers 2, I expect Thanos to complete the gauntlet & close the film victoriously while The Avengers mourn a fallen comrade & the fall of their planet. Phase III can focus on the heroes taking back Earth & defeating Thanos, concluding the Phase with a final battle where an Avengers roster twice as big as that of the first film & that includes the GOTG defeats The Mad Titan once & for all. Whedon's going all the way with Thanos. The comic book issues he brought up, I own them. They're everything this series should be about. A war that begins with defending the planet & escalates to defending the universe. Its a battle against the ultimate evil; there's no way they'll bring him down in their first bout. They're gonna need help. Cosmic help.

[Closerframe]

Like many have said, Thanos is the greatest foe the Avengers have ever faced, so it would be pointless to tease him at the end, introduce him in the subsequent standalone films, then have them battle and defeat him in the sequel. I think he should be utilized as much as possible to ensure when he finally greets the team he is in full power and control and the consequences have to be great--meaning I expect at least two or three heroes to die. I think, ideally, to introduce Ant-Man over the next two years or so--prior to The Avengers 2--would be the best thing to do so he can invent Ultron who invents the Vision who is sent in to infiltrate and destroy the team, but somehow Ultron has links to Thanos who has a bigger presence this time around. Or, they could go the HYDRA way and have Red Skull and a team of other super villains team up to destroy the Avengers which would go with what Whedon wants by making the next one more personal.

[PunyGod]

From the interview with Feige and Whedon it sounded like Thanos was just a last minute addition by Joss. It wouldn't surprise me if he never shows up again and this is just written off as an easter egg for fans.

Not that I'm saying I don't want to see him. I'd love to see the MCU go full on cosmic and fulfill the promise that Green Lantern never did.

[DrCosmic]

Originally Posted by cherokeesam

It depends on how much of Thanos we see during "Phase II."

Don't quote me on this, cuz it's just a hunch, but I think Feige is working on a theory that one megavillain is the "central" villain of each phase of the MCU. MCU Phase I was IM 1 & 2, Thor, CATFA, TIH, and Avengers. Loki was the "central villain" of that phase, but the real unifying thread there was, of course, the Avengers themselves assembling.

I believe MCU Phase II is shaping up to be Thor 2, IM 3, CA2, Avengers 2 and at least one unnamed movie (that may or may not be Ant-Man, Dr. Strange, TIH2, or GOTG as the likeliest candidates). I also believe, as I stated earlier, that Thanos will play small to middlin' roles in some, if not all, of these films, and culminate in a showdown in Avengers 2.

And yes, that means I don't believe in the trilogy theory. I do not believe for one second that Marvel Studios has set themselves up to be finite, to already have an "ending" planned for their grand business venture. MCU Phase III will take the Avengers in a new direction, *minus* Thanos, but there'll be a whole new story arc with a central villain set up for an Avengers 3 showdown. Could be a Kree-Skrull story arc, a Kang story arc, a MOE story arc, Inhumans, Atlantis Attacks, or something else.

Yeah, Loki wasn't a threat to phase I, he only came up half way through it. Why don't you think Avengers 4 will be the film where they take the Avengers in a new direction? Why would they need to take it in a new direction in 3, everyone's still on contract? They could be wrapping up a story they've built up, instead of trying to build momentum for a direction they'll have to change again in TA4.

Just because they're trilogies, doesn't mean the MCU is finite. It just means its going somewhere specific instead of just striking out randomly.

Originally Posted by Alexei Belyakov

After hearing Whedon talk about Thanos, I'm 99% sure he will be the primary threat during Avengers 2 & 3. Phase II will culminate with the first battle between Thanos & Midgard's heroes - which should have a much larger roster come 2015. By the end of Avengers 2, I expect Thanos to complete the gauntlet & close the film victoriously while The Avengers mourn a fallen comrade & the fall of their planet. Phase III can focus on the heroes taking back Earth & defeating Thanos, concluding the Phase with a final battle where an Avengers roster twice as big as that of the first film & that includes the GOTG defeats The Mad Titan once & for all. Whedon's going all the way with Thanos. The comic book issues he brought up, I own them. They're everything this series should be about. A war that begins with defending the planet & escalates to defending the universe. Its a battle against the ultimate evil; there's no way they'll bring him down in their first bout. They're gonna need help. Cosmic help.

That sounds totally awesome. I do look forward to Thanos showing up at the end of TA2 and mopping the floor with the heroes. What interview is this, by the way, I'd love to check on some of those issues.

I don't think the GotG will be on par with the Avengers story-wise. They'll certainly be a linchpin in the plot, but as far as screen time, and striking those final blows, I just don't see them deferring their built up super stars to one-movie CGI constructs. In fact, one has to wonder how many of the GotG will survive their own movie. It might just be Adam Warlock and an injured Star Lord who come to warn the Avengers.

[AvengeME]

I never saw an Avengers franchise as a potential trilogy in the classical sense with a beginning, middle, and end. The franchise is indefinite. Members come and go. Characters change. I don't want it to be like X-Men where we get a Wolverine arc along with Magneto/Xavier's primary arc and it is a very self contained story. Even had they fleshed out the rest of the X-Men as necessary, it is still a trilogy for that set of characters. I guess you could somewhat equate that to Avengers, but I feel the presentations of the two should be completely different.

Members come and go. I always imagined even staple heroes like Thor and Iron Man to take a hiatus after a movie or so. Maybe Thor skips part 2 for example. Someone else fills in. The stories are completely distinct and stand alone by themselves. Not consistent with the classic trilogy in the sense.

Avengers should not present one story on one particular set of characters. It is an entire universe of characters. There is no need for repetition of characters and villains. Should there ever be a need for Avengers 4, 5, and 6 (no reason not to believe we can't get those movies at some point), and Thanos has already been dealt with, it is anti-climactic to say the least. Even X-Men saved Apocalypse. I don't think Thanos should be an overarching villain like the Sith. Let him remain in the background as an esoteric force that is hinted at but never sees major action until they decide to present that story. Hold it off until Avengers 3 at the very least. Or possibly a two part series for Avengers 3, 4 if they feel they cannot present that in one film and have little desire to tell any other story involving the Avengers at such a time.

[Rock Sexton]

Originally Posted by PunyGod

From the interview with Feige and Whedon it sounded like Thanos was just a last minute addition by Joss. It wouldn't surprise me if he never shows up again and this is just written off as an easter egg for fans.

Not that I'm saying I don't want to see him. I'd love to see the MCU go full on cosmic and fulfill the promise that Green Lantern never did.

Drugs are bad.

[cofphoto]

I'm not a comic book reader, and am not versed on the comic book side of the Marvel Universe, but my question was - who will be the villian in Thor 2, and might we see Thanos in that movie?

The Chataurai Leader in Avengers told Loki that if he failed to bring them the Tesseract, there would be no place he could hide from them. So at the end of the movie, Loki and the Tesseract end up back in Asgaard. Could we even see Thanos in that movie?

Everyone is assuming he'll be the villian on Avengers 2, but just thought I'd ask because like I said...I don't know any better.

Also as a side note, who will be the villian in Cap 2?

[Alexei Belyakov]

I can't believe there are actually people who think Thanos was nothing more than an unrelated nod to the fans never to be expanded upon. Wrong. Every little bit of information presented in these films is carefully decided on. The IM2 commentary by Favreau clarifies to what [extreme] extent that goes. We first saw Fury in IM & it took 4 years to see him in full force. The same application will be done for Thanos. In 2015 we get the first full bout with The Mad Titan. Its gonna be a painful 3 years of waiting, but hopefully the solo films (specially GOTG) will keep us entertained 'til that next event film. Do I think it will all end with Thanos in Avengers 3? I have no idea. If the genre's still on fire by 2020 then we'll definitely get an Avengers 4.

[cherokeesam]

Originally Posted by AvengeME

I never saw an Avengers franchise as a potential trilogy in the classical sense with a beginning, middle, and end. The franchise is indefinite. Members come and go. Characters change. I don't want it to be like X-Men where we get a Wolverine arc along with Magneto/Xavier's primary arc and it is a very self contained story. Even had they fleshed out the rest of the X-Men as necessary, it is still a trilogy for that set of characters. I guess you could somewhat equate that to Avengers, but I feel the presentations of the two should be completely different.

Members come and go. I always imagined even staple heroes like Thor and Iron Man to take a hiatus after a movie or so. Maybe Thor skips part 2 for example. Someone else fills in. The stories are completely distinct and stand alone by themselves. Not consistent with the classic trilogy in the sense.

Avengers should not present one story on one particular set of characters. It is an entire universe of characters. There is no need for repetition of characters and villains. Should there ever be a need for Avengers 4, 5, and 6 (no reason not to believe we can't get those movies at some point), and Thanos has already been dealt with, it is anti-climactic to say the least. Even X-Men saved Apocalypse. I don't think Thanos should be an overarching villain like the Sith. Let him remain in the background as an esoteric force that is hinted at but never sees major action until they decide to present that story. Hold it off until Avengers 3 at the very least. Or possibly a two part series for Avengers 3, 4 if they feel they cannot present that in one film and have little desire to tell any other story involving the Avengers at such a time.

Well-spoken, sir.
Two thumbs up!

Originally Posted by cofphoto

I'm not a comic book reader, and am not versed on the comic book side of the Marvel Universe, but my question was - who will be the villian in Thor 2, and might we see Thanos in that movie?

The Chataurai Leader in Avengers told Loki that if he failed to bring them the Tesseract, there would be no place he could hide from them. So at the end of the movie, Loki and the Tesseract end up back in Asgaard. Could we even see Thanos in that movie?

Everyone is assuming he'll be the villian on Avengers 2, but just thought I'd ask because like I said...I don't know any better.

Also as a side note, who will be the villian in Cap 2?

Well, that's the thing about setting up Thanos in Avengers 1, isn't it....? They've definitely planted the seed for at least a cameo in Thor 2, because Thanos isn't done with the Cube, or with Loki, yet; and there's still the theory that I and others believe that Thanos is just manipulating Loki and the Cube into Asgard so that he can get in and steal back the Infinity Gauntlet that was teased in the Thor movie (deleted scene, but w/e).

As for the Cap sequel, there's almost no info on it yet, other than the fact that it takes place in modern day with Cap working closely with SHIELD. So we don't know potential villains yet; but if the comics are any indication, some safe bets include Baron Zemo, a "resurrected" Red Skull (with Crossbones), a "resurrected" Bucky Barnes as Winter Soldier, HYDRA under the leadership of Von Strucker or Madam Viper, Arnim Zola, Super-Adaptoid, Taskmaster, the Serpent Society, or MODOK and A.I.M.

[cofphoto]

Awesome, so I'm not totally off base then because I was figuring Thanos would go after Loki and the cube in Thor 2 and Loki and Thor would end up battling him together or something and in the end Loki would again be a good guy and not a villian.