State Your Opinion on a Character - Page 30

Wesley Dodds · 05-21-2012, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Duke

Buck Rogers is a bit similar to Flash Gordon for me at least. The only exposure I got from him were reruns of Buck Rogers in the 25th Century tv show with Gil Gerard. Anyhow, he's alright.

Yeah, Buck Rogers, Flash Gordon and Dan Dare all fall into the "ray gun's and evil alien empires" camp of 40's Pulp heroes.
I remember that show too... Can't say it was my cup of tea.
I'll never forget this one, admittedly awesome, scene,though:

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Wesley Dodds · 05-21-2012, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Wesley Dodds

No Dan Dare love, eh? Fair enough.

Keeping with the loose 'Pulp Heroes' theme, let's try:

Buck Rogers

Today's character, folks.

Anubis · 05-21-2012, 12:35 PM

Awesome character. One of the many John Carter characters and most are awesome.

Duke · 05-21-2012, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wesley Dodds

Yeah, Buck Rogers, Flash Gordon and Dan Dare all fall into the "ray gun's and evil alien empires" camp of 40's Pulp heroes.
I remember that show too... Can't say it was my cup of tea.
I'll never forget this one, admittedly awesome, scene,though:

VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:

Incidentally, you can pick up the complete series of that show on dvd at Wal-Mart for $20. It's not a bad deal, I must say.

Spider-Aziz · 05-22-2012, 01:25 AM

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

'Nuff Said

ShredderX · 05-22-2012, 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wesley Dodds

Flash Gordon

I love the late 70's/early 80's cartoon with Lion Man. My favorite was Flash, The Phantom, etc in Defenders of the Earth. The movie was too trippy though.

ShredderX · 05-22-2012, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Wesley Dodds

The Astounding
Wolfman

Love it. One of my favorite Monster Heros.

Ash J. Williams · 05-22-2012, 02:37 AM

I concur.

KingMob · 05-22-2012, 01:20 PM

The premise, and the art were both excellent, but overall it was ok.

Wesley Dodds · 05-23-2012, 12:11 PM

Tarzan

Spider-Aziz · 05-23-2012, 01:23 PM

Duke · 05-23-2012, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wesley Dodds

Tarzan

Tarzan I suppose is an OK character. I've had minimal exposure to the character & just seen a few comics & cartoons pertaining to him.

Wesley Dodds · 05-24-2012, 03:10 PM

Painkiller Jane

Anubis · 05-24-2012, 10:34 PM

Eh, I've liked Tarzan homages more than the actual character.

Painkiller Jane? Eh. What's the name of that chick that played the Terminator in that Terminator movie that sucked? She played her in the live action tv series.....That's all I pretty much know about the character.

KingMob · 05-24-2012, 11:14 PM

I agree about the homages, particularly in Planetary. I like the Tarzan concept, even if its fairly racist.

The Astounding Wolf-man was good, but forgettable.

Hound55 · 05-24-2012, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KingMob

I agree about the homages, particularly in Planetary. I like the Tarzan concept, even if its fairly racist.

The Astounding Wolf-man was good, but forgettable.

How so?

KingMob · 05-24-2012, 11:44 PM

Even stripped of all assets, a white dude left alone among the natives will naturally come to rule them. And as we all know, its the white mans burden to take the savages and make them "better".

Hound55 · 05-24-2012, 11:59 PM

But it wasn't the natives or savages... It was apes. And he was considered one amongst them, rather than their ruler.

I'd say there's a greater argument for sexism in Tarzan's core concepts than racism... not the characterisations though. They were straight stereotypes of various races ranging from the English, Swedes, Russians, Arabs, Africans, whatever nationality they encountered.

He's Lord of the Jungle, literally because he inherited the title because his parents were nobility... and he returned to Africa with his inheritance including that title, not because he rose up some kind of native society to reach the upper pinnacle.

Anubis · 05-25-2012, 12:40 AM

Well.....when he first met Jane, he introduced himself as "Me Tarzan....Killer of Beasts and Black Men."

At the very least, he liked to kill hims some brothas.

Hound55 · 05-25-2012, 01:04 AM

Oh yeah, he did. Absolutely. But again, I'd say it's the characterisations that are racist moreso than the concepts.

He certainly wasn't backwards in killing black people... Didn't he lynch one because he killed Tarzan's ape-mum?

KingMob · 05-25-2012, 01:05 AM

He's basically a fictional character born out of the whole colonization of Africa by Europe/Whites era, and the idea that aristocratic whites were some how genetically superior to other races.

There is that undercurrent of racism and sexism you expect of the period.

Wesley Dodds · 05-26-2012, 12:57 PM

Okay. Moving on... Back to Indie town!

Edie and Rebecca

Anubis · 05-26-2012, 06:51 PM

Pretentious Hipsterettes.

Wesley Dodds · 05-26-2012, 07:08 PM

Well, I've never read the book but I really enjoyed the movie.
I think it's set in the early 90's though, so surely they pre-date the whole hipster thing?

Anubis · 05-26-2012, 07:09 PM

Not really. Hipsters have been around a long time. Like, since the 50's.

05-22-2012, 01:25 AM	#730
Spider-Aziz Not in a million years Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 22,643	Re: State Your Opinion on a Character Spoiler!!! Click to Read!: 'Nuff Said __________________ I must NEVER post in politics forums Jor-El was right, members of the council of Krypton were wrong I still hate driving instructors

05-22-2012, 01:20 PM	#734
KingMob Nothing to see here Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: U.S. Posts: 443	Re: State Your Opinion on a Character The premise, and the art were both excellent, but overall it was ok. __________________ "I guess everything makes sense when you're drunk and wasted on weed."

05-23-2012, 12:11 PM	#735
Wesley Dodds He Who Lurks... Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5,719	Re: State Your Opinion on a Character Tarzan

05-23-2012, 01:23 PM	#736
Spider-Aziz Not in a million years Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 22,643	Re: State Your Opinion on a Character __________________ I must NEVER post in politics forums Jor-El was right, members of the council of Krypton were wrong I still hate driving instructors

05-24-2012, 03:10 PM	#738
Wesley Dodds He Who Lurks... Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5,719	Re: State Your Opinion on a Character Painkiller Jane

05-24-2012, 11:14 PM	#740
KingMob Nothing to see here Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: U.S. Posts: 443	Re: State Your Opinion on a Character I agree about the homages, particularly in Planetary. I like the Tarzan concept, even if its fairly racist. The Astounding Wolf-man was good, but forgettable. __________________ "I guess everything makes sense when you're drunk and wasted on weed."

05-24-2012, 11:44 PM	#742
KingMob Nothing to see here Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: U.S. Posts: 443	Re: State Your Opinion on a Character Even stripped of all assets, a white dude left alone among the natives will naturally come to rule them. And as we all know, its the white mans burden to take the savages and make them "better". __________________ "I guess everything makes sense when you're drunk and wasted on weed."

05-24-2012, 11:59 PM	#743
Hound55 Byfar The Most Evil Thing Join Date: May 2009 Location: Merry old land of Aust. Posts: 10,084	Re: State Your Opinion on a Character But it wasn't the natives or savages... It was apes. And he was considered one amongst them, rather than their ruler. I'd say there's a greater argument for sexism in Tarzan's core concepts than racism... not the characterisations though. They were straight stereotypes of various races ranging from the English, Swedes, Russians, Arabs, Africans, whatever nationality they encountered. He's Lord of the Jungle, literally because he inherited the title because his parents were nobility... and he returned to Africa with his inheritance including that title, not because he rose up some kind of native society to reach the upper pinnacle. __________________ [/JOKE] 16,18, not much difference mentally or physically. It's a number over there. Here however it's the difference between mid life crisis with hot chicks with daddy issues and pound me in the ass prison. - Anubis More Anubis' greatest hits: "Families are Gods way of teaching us to get along with people we don't particularly like."

05-25-2012, 01:04 AM	#745
Hound55 Byfar The Most Evil Thing Join Date: May 2009 Location: Merry old land of Aust. Posts: 10,084	Re: State Your Opinion on a Character Oh yeah, he did. Absolutely. But again, I'd say it's the characterisations that are racist moreso than the concepts. He certainly wasn't backwards in killing black people... Didn't he lynch one because he killed Tarzan's ape-mum? __________________ [/JOKE] 16,18, not much difference mentally or physically. It's a number over there. Here however it's the difference between mid life crisis with hot chicks with daddy issues and pound me in the ass prison. - Anubis More Anubis' greatest hits: "Families are Gods way of teaching us to get along with people we don't particularly like."

05-25-2012, 01:05 AM	#746
KingMob Nothing to see here Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: U.S. Posts: 443	Re: State Your Opinion on a Character He's basically a fictional character born out of the whole colonization of Africa by Europe/Whites era, and the idea that aristocratic whites were some how genetically superior to other races. There is that undercurrent of racism and sexism you expect of the period. __________________ "I guess everything makes sense when you're drunk and wasted on weed."

05-26-2012, 12:57 PM	#747
Wesley Dodds He Who Lurks... Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5,719	Re: State Your Opinion on a Character Okay. Moving on... Back to Indie town! Edie and Rebecca

05-26-2012, 07:08 PM	#749
Wesley Dodds He Who Lurks... Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: UK Posts: 5,719	Re: State Your Opinion on a Character Well, I've never read the book but I really enjoyed the movie. I think it's set in the early 90's though, so surely they pre-date the whole hipster thing?

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