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Goodness, this is a huge mess. I think it's safe to assume that if anything, they will re-film the whole scene where the Joes get ambushed near the beginning. Duke will be in critical condition and near the end of the movie, they'll throw in another scene with Duke recovering. That's the only scenario I see because honestly, they'd have to re-film the whole entire thing if Duke becomes involved in the plot.
Horrible. I was so excited to see this movie too, but I'm sure the film we will see next March will at least a bit better than the one we would have seen next month if the reports are true. MY only concern is...if they actually do end up making Duke integral to the plot, they will practically be making a whole new film. One has to wonder how much the budget will increase, not even including the already wasted marketing and the NEW marketing for next year.
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I really can't believ how messed up this is. Who would've thought one actor could hold such authority without really doing anything
Honestly, I hope no one holds this against Tatum. He didn't ask for this. He's not my favorite actor, but he is growing on me. |
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Join Date: Sep 2004
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My guess would be Duke goes on either a solo mission or is given a small team of Joes who are little more than extras, and through extra scenes with The Rock or Flint talking to him on a radio his mission is "assisting" the overall conflict.
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That would be kinda cool. But it makes me wonder what they're actually going to add.
Duke's death was actually one of the things that had me curious about this film. I guess I didnt need to see it to. Find out that he died . Tatum may not be my fav actor, but Duke was always my favorite Joe |
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Join Date: Apr 2002
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The idea of people going, "You know what this movie needs more of? Channing Tatum," is hilarious in itself.
No offense but the dude is still not a legitimate draw. 21 Jump Street and The Vow were successful but you know what? So was the first Step Up and also Dear John. Doesn't mean the guy is the next Tom Cruise. I don't see how making Tatum the new star is going to save the flick. But whatever.
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I agree that adding tatum may or may not make a better movie, it's nice to not have the character killed off so quickly
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I like Tatum, so I'm fine with him not dying. But if the movie is a stinker, having more of his character isn't gonna save it.
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Then why did they set it up that way in the first place?
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If that question was really asked at the test screening, it sounds like the executives are putting too much stock in Tatum's popularity and the problems with the film go way beyond the fate of Duke.
I still feel they'll have it that Duke was taken away instead of killed for whatever reason Cobra Commander has. |
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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Wow, personally I can't stand Channing Tatum. I think he sucks as an actor. Don't understand why he is getting so many roles.
I really wanted to see GI Joe 2 badly just to see Duke gets killed, ............ If the rumours are true, and they're trying to bring Duke back to life and give him more screentime, I will be pissed...... They should just follow FOX, people complain about cyclops, professor x and jean dying in x3 the last stand but luckily FOX didn't reshoots and made changes......and I was one of those that enjoy watching x3 the last stand. |
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From what I've heard and read (and I have no links to this) was that Tatum wanted a smaller role in the film...so they decided to kill him off; and I'm sure it was for shock value too. What other way to set a different tone for the film than to kill off one of your leading characters from the first movie (although it's not like they were killing off Hicks in Alien 3).
It seemed like many, including myself, thought Duke got killed off early in the film just from what we saw in the trailers. Was I upset? No...I was intrigued. However, I was hoping they didn't kill him off. But again, him dying would not have been a make or break point for me. I was looking forward to seeing the movie anyway. |
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Wow this whole thing sounds like a mess.
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I don't even hate Tatum as much as others (though I still think he's a dreadful actor) but seriously killing off Duke (not just Tatum) was the main thing that peaked my interest in this movie because it seemed like such an awesome departure from the lukewarm first film. Going back on that just makes me not care about this movie whatsoever. It's like Paramount went with a risky idea, then backed out because they were too scared to do something different...a month before release.
It's just a gong show, brah. I can only hope that the extra Tatum scenes are just a few minor scenes before his death so he can "bond" with The Rock like the audience was apparently complaining about. If he's full-on shoehorned back into the movie as a main character, this movie can suck it. |
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After putting some thought in it here's what I think happens. Duke and Roadblock being BFFs is either expanded upon earlier in the film or through flashbacks. Duke dies as planned and the movie progresses and ends.
Then we get an after credits scene of Cobra Commander talking to someone explaining that he's not getting off that easy, and the camera pans over to Duke in that tube we see a revived Storm Shadow coming out of in the trailer. |
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It's funny if Duke gets all the attention for his death, but the other members of the GI Joe from the first film (assumingly) all die like cannon fodder. I just hope they didn't kill Scarlett.
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There's nothing to suggest the other characters would even appear in the film to be "killed." It looked like Duke was the only one from the first movie. No Mainframe. No Heavy Duty. No Scarlett. And no Ripcord.
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It's too bad, I liked all of the group from the first movie, except for Ripcord. But if they're not specifically stated to be dead, and if we don't see their bodies, we all know that in the world of cinema, that means they can come back at any time.
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Which doesn't explain much. What, did they quit or got retcon out? Lame if soo. Especially with Scarlett being an important member of the team. But I guess it's better than killing her off..offscreen.
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Has anyone outright asked Chu if everyone else was really dead? Wayons pretty much hinted his character was so and Nichols just said she was sad about not being in the sequel I think.
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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Does anyone else think they should bring some new characters since their going to do major rewrite anyway? I think they should get shipwreck, quick-kick, and spirit. They should have Duke with the new Joe's on a separate mission and meet up with roadblock later on. And also have xamot and tomax aswell. Considering how poorly retaliation was reviewed, I think major write and reshoots are going to happen. 9 months is a bit much for just a couple of dukes not dead scenes.
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Harry Shum, Jr. (Mike Chang from "Glee") would be perfect! Check out this short film he did last year called 3 Minutes: VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:
Plus, Chu and Shum have a history together with Chu's involvement with the League of Extraordinary Dancers:
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