Web shooter shop class

[peterwebbedhead]

heres a crystal oscillator which look similar to the movie webshooter cartridge could it be used as a cartridge?Just curious.

[Human Spider]

Originally Posted by peterwebbedhead

What do you mean?

We know the general way Peter Parker's web shooters work in the comics and cartoons, as well as the fluid. But one of Richard Parker's notes on the Oscorp Industries website got me thinking that maybe our webs would be more flexible and strong if we used specific proteins and 'spin' them into strands which would intertwine together at some point and form one solid webline.

Long story short, the theroretical shooter uses proteins instead of web fluid and they are 'spun' into something close to spider silk. I just wanted to know what you guys would think of a web shooter which was more of an artificial spider silk gland than Spidey's comic book shooters.

By the way, I'm never going to try making it. I lack the resources and knowledge required.

[spidey44]

crystal oscillators are very small I don't think that will work.

[Ryleyw]

How does the trigger from the movie work( the amazeing spiderman ).

[Symbiote-Man]

Originally Posted by Ryleyw

How does the trigger from the movie work( the amazeing spiderman ).

Well, it's a movie. So it doesn't work at all.

[peterwebbedhead]

Originally Posted by spidey44

crystal oscillators are very small I don't think that will work.

Yeah ehhh.......right after I posted about the crystal oscillator message on the thread I actually opened up my old RC car controller and removed the crystal oscillator and used a plier to squish the metal till it became flat.I then removed the stuff inside leaving just the casing and the cap.I fill it up with CO2 and my formula and it wanted to blow but I actually managed to hold it with a larger and
stiff like super stiff plier then I soldered the metal casing to the cap and it for some reason worked.

[White_widow]

He got you there mate. I'm guessing he pushes down each copper node onto a broken circuit. This would complete the circuit and make it work. Well in the real world that would happen, but in the notes it said something about bio-metric feedback.

and wow. 8 active users. Wouldn't it be fantastic if Daniel O'brien was on this forum?

[peterwebbedhead]

Originally Posted by White_widow

He got you there mate. I'm guessing he pushes down each copper node onto a broken circuit. This would complete the circuit and make it work. Well in the real world that would happen, but in the notes it said something about bio-metric feedback.

and wow. 8 active users. Wouldn't it be fantastic if Daniel O'brien was on this forum?

WhiteWidow could you explain it in simple terms,its just that I programmed the microcontroller on my webshooter till I got tired.

[White_widow]

I don't understand what you just said, but ok. Let me put it in... Simpler terms.


Front----------battery-----------solenoid----------switch----switch----------end

This is a circuit. The circuit works when the front is touching the end, and both switches are in the on position. If the circuit is one wire, then both switches have to be on. If one switch is off, the line is broken. The solenoid won't work unless both buttons are pushed down. That's how peter's shooter works. At the end of the copper wire in the movie shooter, there are two metallic nodes. Think of them as switches. They have to be pushed down to work.

[AmazinSpiderboy]

Who is Daniel o Brian ?

[White_widow]

He's a writer on cracked.com. He's big into spiderman.

[Ryleyw]

Originally Posted by Symbiote-Man

No offense, but it's not that hard. Don't be lazy.

I'm "just" a kid too, you know. That's no excuse.

I'm 13.
Ikr it's really not that hard if you have the resources, and know what you are doing.

[Ryleyw]

So I'm gonna use a electronic solenoid needle value, so when I press down on the trigger it'll, the microcontroller will allow the value to open letting the co2 and fluid pass thou going to the spinning chamber then out thou the nozzle, that I thought abt making it where turning the nozzle different ways could make the web a net or straight line for swinging time!

[peterwebbedhead]

I think I know where the valve of the movie webshooter is.Its actually a magnetic gate valve(even that is possible.....could it?.....maybe).look closly at the circle piece below the shock-absorbing base plate.It actually slides.

[peterwebbedhead]

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/834/page1qz.jpg/

[peterwebbedhead]

heres a demonstration.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/407/page3k.jpg/
sorry if the words are......meh.Its quite hard to write with a mouse.The white strand represents the web being fired out.

[White_widow]

I don't know. There are two big reasons that I believe this design is quite lacking in explanation.For one thing, it states somewhere there that the battery is only for stabilizing bio-rhythmic feedback. That would make sense if there wasn't a circuit. There is no power source according to the schematic and the power source there is supposedly non-functional. The second issue I've had: Tiny cartridge, lots of webbing. We even saw how much webbing the cartridge could hold when it blew up in his face. It was a bunch of strands that could probably hit ten yards. It then suddenly becomes able to produce more than that when he is in the sewers.

Other than those two issues, I could buy into this design. I think the reason this forum is so on top of that design is because of hype from the movie, and not about function. I still think that these three are the most realistic shooters:






Actually, back to the peter parker shooter I just listed, I'd even go as far to say that I'd be more willing to believe in the movie shooter if he had that white tank on his forearm so that the fluid would be supplied by a bigger source. Then the whole use the micro-chip, make an advanced spinneret, have a gauge, and using a watch makes more sense, because it's housing a fancy valve, and not all the fluid.


Heck, with that design, you could even modify it to make it easier to reload. If you run out of fluid, you stick the solenoid onto pressure vessels on the waist, and they will refill the forearm tank until you either release the "trigger" or the pressure equalizes. It might not be easier than the cartridge, but it will hold a lot more fluid, and based on the fact that two or three of you are going to the costume forum, I imagine you'll try to wear that under a suit. You can't change the cartridge under a onesy.

The forearm design would be good for parkour as well. the tank would eliminate a few techniques. The belt would work, but the tube might get caught or cut. Just something to think about.

[peterwebbedhead]

Maybe the fluid actually expands at a great rate(maybe).Think about it,why would that piece(that circle piece valve thingy) be there,its not in a normal watch or something and could you tell whats a bio-rhythmic feedback is.

[Awesome Man]

Originally Posted by Human Spider

We know the general way Peter Parker's web shooters work in the comics and cartoons, as well as the fluid. But one of Richard Parker's notes on the Oscorp Industries website got me thinking that maybe our webs would be more flexible and strong if we used specific proteins and 'spin' them into strands which would intertwine together at some point and form one solid webline.

Long story short, the theroretical shooter uses proteins instead of web fluid and they are 'spun' into something close to spider silk. I just wanted to know what you guys would think of a web shooter which was more of an artificial spider silk gland than Spidey's comic book shooters.

By the way, I'm never going to try making it. I lack the resources and knowledge required.

so like the cartridge is in multiple sections of differernt parts of the formula that mix as their shoot out?

[White_widow]

Originally Posted by peterwebbedhead

Maybe the fluid actually expands at a great rate(maybe).Think about it,why would that piece(that circle piece valve thingy) be there,its not in a normal watch or something and could you tell whats a bio-rhythmic feedback is.

Expansion will weaken the formula. The Bio-rhythmic feedback is a cycle of predictable behavior. When you use a frequency and a machine picks up on it, the gears move in response.

[peterwebbedhead]

Oh I get it.

[MarvelFan]

peterwebbedhead i have a qustion. where can i buy this "anti-adhesive" and how much would it cost?

[White_widow]

Originally Posted by MarvelFan

peterwebbedhead i have a qustion. where can i buy this "anti-adhesive" and how much would it cost?

It's called acetone and it costs anywhere from 2-5$

[MarvelFan]

Originally Posted by White_widow

It's called acetone and it costs anywhere from 2-5$

Thanks a mile!

[peterwebbedhead]

Hey WhiteWidow where can I buy mechanical watch's gears and gear barrels,just the gears from the watch and could there be an easier way to get CO2 from fizzy can drinks because I saw that peter has lots of fizzy drinks on his workplace.Sorry if I can't upload the pic of the workplace there was something wrong with the URL in the website but you'll find the image when you google search 'the amazing spiderman webshooters'.