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What about Favreau for Iron Man "made sense" to you?
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Swingers and the fact that he was a massive fan
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I was just thinking about possible villains that Cap could face in Cap 2, and Baron Zemo obviously popped into my mind... But I started to think about who could play him??
And I must say every time I see that Expendables 2 trailer, I just can't stop thinking about how perfect Jean-Claude Van Damme could be playing Zemo!! I Know some might disagree, but just watch the trailer, and tell me he couldn't pull it off!! He doesn't have to be the best of actors, because he will be wearing the mask for the entirety or at least 90% of the film, and he has the cool accent, he still has that athletic ability, so that we could see a awesome fight scene with Cap!! And I just think looking at him in Expendables as a villain just suits him, better than any other role i seen him take in the past... |
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We all know what a tight ship Marvel runs. They allow directors a certain amount of freedom, but maintain a relatively firm grip on the general direction of the story and characters.
This directing duo has obviously proven themselves and their vision for Cap 2 to Marvel. Marvel approves them for this film, for the character of Captain America, and for the entry they will produce as it will fit into the greater MCU. What...is...the problem?
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Don't got a problem with the hiring, but it doesn't make it any less strange. It's been stated previously, but hopefully they are closet Marvelites and have an understanding of the characters, if even in the most basic sense.
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Point is...if the directors chosen for Cap 2 end up having ideas that aren't in-line with Marvel's, they will most likely be tossed. If they are kept, then we should be confident that Marvel likes their direction...
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We're compelled to complain and wring our hands with worry over things we know almost nothing about, to the point where we start imagining fantastic little doomsday scenarios in which Marvel loses their minds and starts sabotaging their own films for giggles, all based on vague internet rumors and hearsay.
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Way to overreact by pretending people are overreacting, instead of simply asking what Marvel saw in a couple of comedy directors for Cap. *Every* director they've chosen so far has been because that director(s) is uniquely qualified to explore a certain facet of what Marvel Studios is looking for in each film. With Favreau, it was his work in Zathura that presaged the kind of movie he'd do for Iron Man; with Leterrier, he had experience in movies about a loner desperately running for his life from lots of people with guns; with Branagh and Taylor, you've got ample background in movies about court intrigue and royal family dramas; with Johnston, you've got decades of experience with action blockbusters and period pieces; with Black, he's been writing "crisis techno thriller" screenplays for decades, and has a long rapport with RDJ. Heck, even with Patty Jenkins, it was most likely about the feminine perspective she would have brought to a female villain like Enchantress, Karnilla, and/or Hela. But The Russo Brothers, unlike all that, are totally left field. The only visible angle here is that they were chosen for their work in comedy, since that's the *only* field they've worked in. So quit overreacting about people asking a simple but pertinent question: why were comedy directors hired to do a Captain America film?
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Please, this isn't my first time at the rodeo. Every single detail and rumor that emerges about every single one of these films throws some nerd into spasms of panic and he reacts by heading straight for the intertubes. You can set your watch by it.
At any rate, Marvel doesn't owe anyone an explanation. If five successful films including one of the biggest hits of all time doesn't instill confidence in them, I guess nothing will.
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Go watch the Community episodes A Fistfull of Paintballs and For a Few Paintballs More. They can do action and character.
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That's the point. They're completely unproven in drama; so the likely scenario is that Marvel is shooting more for a *comedy* for CA2. How well do you think that idea will fly.....?
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I hope the director(s) is officially confirmed asap.. so that filming can start by this fall..
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This really is Whedon 2010 all over again.
Marvel is 6/6 in my book. I trust 'em.
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No, I don't think they're getting ready to go all slapstick on Cap. But I think the perception from Feige is that Johnston's Cap was earnest and serious and it failed (comparatively) at the box office --- #5 of all 6 Marvel Studios films. By contrast, Iron Man and the Avengers have ample laughs and don't take themselves too seriously, and those generate boffo box office. So Feige figures Cap needs a sense of humor for CA2. I don't know if that's a *bad* thing yet; but it sure as hell is a new direction for Cap, wouldn't you say?
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I think it's more likely that they simply had a great pitch for Cap 2, or that they have a good grasp of the character that Feige found impressive. The idea that they'd hire a pair of directors just to improve the yucks strikes me as abnormal.
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That's the only optimistic conclusion I can draw from it, too. Maybe Feige was so impressed by what they know about the character and what kind of vision they've got for the story that he said they'd be perfect, even if inexperienced at the genre. Otherwise, it comes back to singling out a comedy director(s) for their expertise in laughs.
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Could be Steven Stielberge?
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Exactly!
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Hey guys. I never post, and don't really come on here much but I think this decision is so great I want to come on here and voice my support! I clearly see what Fiege is doing here. Going forward, MCU films are going to be done more in the style of TV episodes, and it's brilliant. I personally believe that over the last decade or so TV has really taken off and has overtaken film. Whedon, Taylor and the Russo's, while different genres, all have track records of great television. There is no way the creators of shows like Arrested Development and Community would feel comfortable working with the Russo's if they didn't have incredible talent when it comes to telling a story. Plus these next movies I think will be tied much closer together than the previous films were. Fiege understands the Avengers was great because it focused on the characters, let them drive the movie, and had it be a fun adventure film more than anything else. Big budget monster of the week type stuff, with awesome characters. This guy Fiege knows what he's doing.
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Yay! Even though I'm cautious about this deciscion, I do like hearing some more positive voices coming out of the woodwork. I'm very interested in the Russos' vision of Captain America 2 and I'm keeping an open mind about it (while simultaneously envisioning Steve Rogers in Greendale... it makes me laugh).
I do think we're going to have to look beyond the genre the Russos work in to see why Feige hired them, at least until they thmselves tell us what their idea for CA 2 will be. I won't repeat myself, but the Russos know how to create a unique perspective with a tried-and-true format - the sitcom. Here, we have a tried-and-true format - the comic book movie. I also like what JustSomeGuy posted. TV has really upped its game over the past decade, to the point where I hold any ep of Arrested Development or Community is funnier than about 95% of today's comedies, and each episode of Game of Thrones has an epic, cinematic feel all their own. The connectedness between each Marvel movie to the entire framework of the MCU is paramount in phase II. We worry that the movies won't look cinematic enough, but we forget that there's a whole crew that will assist in production, as well as Feige and Co. backing the machine. I'm still apprehensive about the production, but I do trust Feige. |
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Having gone back and rewatched both "A fistfull of Paintballs" and ""For a Few Paintballs More" I am definitely a lot more excited if the ability to mix tone, genre, non linear plot and character moments on display in those eps was one of the reasons they were hired for Cap 2. I'd forgotten how much of a trick is it to go from Western to Star Wars and make it work perfectly with the characters. This is not a sit com with a laugh track and two recycled jokes.
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I think Cap 1 had some good humor. I think there's a place for humor in the movie. I do think Cap is really hard to do. He's got a sense of humor ... He's a smart guy. But he's firm on what he believes and on right and wrong.
I think they're going to bring in Falcon and possibly have Cap get stripped of his costume (Nomad). That story line did have him tripping on his cape, by the way. We'll see. I think Marvel has done a perfect job selecting their directors. The one I was really skeptical about was Favreau. and he was fantastic with Iron Man. Haven't been concerned since that one. Very well selected. The movies have all been well done. |
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