Bring on the bad guys!!!!

Chris Wallace · 06-07-2012, 01:59 PM

This thread is devoted to villains and villains only. We love them for their arrogance,

their ambition,

their menace,

their dementia,

let's face it-some movies would simply get NOWHERE if it weren't for them.

Discuss.

Mondragon · 06-11-2012, 05:54 PM

A movie Doom, Loki, Red Skull, (Maybe a cloned Osborn) Abomination & Magneto would make an awesome team-up movie.
Maybe add Dormammu & Mephisto

Anyone want to recreat that iconic Romita cover with their move counterparts?

obin_gam · 06-12-2012, 10:59 AM

Bad guys rule, and one of the proof is that the best Avenger-comic is Dark Avengers!

Chris Wallace · 06-12-2012, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mondragon

A movie Doom, Loki, Red Skull, (Maybe a cloned Osborn) Abomination & Magneto would make an awesome team-up movie.
Maybe add Dormammu & Mephisto

Anyone want to recreat that iconic Romita cover with their move counterparts?

Color me intrigued.

The Overlord · 06-12-2012, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mondragon

A movie Doom, Loki, Red Skull, (Maybe a cloned Osborn) Abomination & Magneto would make an awesome team-up movie.
Maybe add Dormammu & Mephisto

Anyone want to recreat that iconic Romita cover with their move counterparts?

They wouldn't be able to do that, due to rights issues. Fox has the rights to Doom and Magneto and that is not going to happen any time soon. Besides you can't have this many big villains in a 2 hour film, they would all be fighting for screen time, so most them would end up not having much to do.

If you a want a movie centered around villains, you need something smaller, like a Thunderbolts or Suicide Squad movie.

Chris Wallace · 06-12-2012, 08:09 PM

We know it can't be done, but it's nice to dream.

The Overlord · 06-12-2012, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Wallace

We know it can't be done, but it's nice to dream.

No offense, but even in dream projects, I wouldn't put all these villains in one movie to fight for screen time with each other. That's in villain groups in these movies, its usually the villain leader that gets most of the characterization.

Also perhaps we should have questions to debate in this topic, like who is the best and worst villains in these movies, something like that.

Mondragon · 06-12-2012, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Overlord

They wouldn't be able to do that, due to rights issues. Fox has the rights to Doom and Magneto and that is not going to happen any time soon.

No kidding, it was an invitation to imagine it, based on the theme of the thread and the classic Romita cover image and title.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Overlord

Besides you can't have this many big villains in a 2 hour film, they would all be fighting for screen time, so most them would end up not having much to do.

Really, "you can't"?

So you can have a movie whith 6 or 7 heroes (yeah I'm including Fury and Coulson) where each have their defining heroic moment, but if they're villains it's impossible?

Or a movie where Ocean gathers 11 master thieves, where each of them with their unique skill are showcased. Or a movie with a Dirty Dozen convicted murderers all with their shining moment are sent on suicide mission.

But if it's Marvel villains "you can't"?
Just because they are deemed villains doesn't mean you can't do a movie with an ensemble

Oberon sexton · 06-13-2012, 05:57 AM

Considering that Marvel studios have a tendency to keep their villains alive, it wouldn't be too far fetched for them to make a Thunderbolts movie.
Perhaps a mixture of the comic book team lead by Zemo with some of the movie characters like Abomination, done by way of the Warren Ellis Civil War run and we could potentially have a great film on our hands.

Chris Wallace · 06-13-2012, 02:06 PM

Skull, Whiplash, Iron Monger and Laufey are all dead.

Oberon sexton · 06-14-2012, 01:32 AM

LaSkull may still be alive, also Justin Hammer is still alive.

DrCosmic · 06-14-2012, 08:54 AM

Justin Hammer's not much of a threat...
Red Skull might be alive out there somewhere...
Abomination is in custody...
Loki is still alive...
Uh.... that's it.

Oberon sexton · 06-14-2012, 05:32 PM

The Leader is in custody as well.

Also bare in mind that in a potential Cap sequel we're very likely to see Zemo so that opens up doors as well.

Look I'm just saying that in comparison to other comic films the villains in Marvel studios have a tendency to live, and the fact that they own the rights to Thunderbolts means that it's not outside the realm of possibility for such a villain team up.

Chris Wallace · 06-18-2012, 08:16 PM

WHo said the Leader was in custody?
Can anyone think of an example of bad villainy in an otherwise good movie?

Red Mask · 06-20-2012, 09:28 PM

When is the Suicide Squad movie coming out? WB mentioned it ages ago!

Oberon sexton · 06-25-2012, 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Wallace

WHo said the Leader was in custody?
Can anyone think of an example of bad villainy in an otherwise good movie?

It was in the official comic book Avengers tie in. Black Widow swooped in and captured Sterns just as he was mutating. He's currently floating in a tank of goo somewhere in Shield custody.

Chris Wallace · 06-25-2012, 11:16 AM

Didn't know there was one? Can you post a cover or some art?

Oberon sexton · 06-26-2012, 01:11 AM

http://images.wikia.com/marveldataba..._1_Cover_2.jpg

Red Mask · 06-26-2012, 08:13 AM

I'd like to see a Black Adam vs. Magneto fight!

Franklin Richards · 06-26-2012, 08:32 AM

Mondragon · 07-12-2012, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franklin Richards

Skrullmptiallicious

Red Mask · 07-13-2012, 10:32 PM

Black Adam vs. the Sentry!

06-07-2012, 01:59 PM	#1
Chris Wallace LET'S DO A HEADCOUNT... Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 35,589	Bring on the bad guys!!!! This thread is devoted to villains and villains only. We love them for their arrogance, their ambition, their menace, their dementia, let's face it-some movies would simply get NOWHERE if it weren't for them. Discuss. __________________ Michael Joseph Jackson 1958-2009. Gone Too Soon. May he finally find the peace that eluded him in life. TOP COMIC BOOK MOVIES 1. AVENGERS 2. CAPTAIN AMERICA 3. THOR 4. SPIDER-MAN 2 5. INCREDIBLE HULK 6. IRON MAN 7. SPIDER-MAN 8. X2 9. V FOR VENDETTA 10. X-MEN FIRST CLASS

06-11-2012, 05:54 PM	#2
Mondragon Side-Kick Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 966	Re: Bring on the bad guys!!!! A movie Doom, Loki, Red Skull, (Maybe a cloned Osborn) Abomination & Magneto would make an awesome team-up movie. Maybe add Dormammu & Mephisto Anyone want to recreat that iconic Romita cover with their move counterparts? Last edited by Mondragon; 06-11-2012 at 06:01 PM.

06-12-2012, 10:59 AM	#3
obin_gam Side-Kick Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: communist utopia Posts: 3,614	Re: Bring on the bad guys!!!! Bad guys rule, and one of the proof is that the best Avenger-comic is Dark Avengers! __________________ "To match the shoeswith the jacket is fey. To match the shoes with the hat is taste." - Gene Wilder

06-12-2012, 08:09 PM	#6
Chris Wallace LET'S DO A HEADCOUNT... Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 35,589	Re: Bring on the bad guys!!!! We know it can't be done, but it's nice to dream. __________________ Michael Joseph Jackson 1958-2009. Gone Too Soon. May he finally find the peace that eluded him in life. TOP COMIC BOOK MOVIES 1. AVENGERS 2. CAPTAIN AMERICA 3. THOR 4. SPIDER-MAN 2 5. INCREDIBLE HULK 6. IRON MAN 7. SPIDER-MAN 8. X2 9. V FOR VENDETTA 10. X-MEN FIRST CLASS

06-13-2012, 05:57 AM	#9
Oberon sexton Warden of the North. Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: The Lands of Always Winter. Posts: 5,688	Re: Bring on the bad guys!!!! Considering that Marvel studios have a tendency to keep their villains alive, it wouldn't be too far fetched for them to make a Thunderbolts movie. Perhaps a mixture of the comic book team lead by Zemo with some of the movie characters like Abomination, done by way of the Warren Ellis Civil War run and we could potentially have a great film on our hands. __________________ "Goodnight Springton. There will be no encore."

06-13-2012, 02:06 PM	#10
Chris Wallace LET'S DO A HEADCOUNT... Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 35,589	Re: Bring on the bad guys!!!! Skull, Whiplash, Iron Monger and Laufey are all dead. __________________ Michael Joseph Jackson 1958-2009. Gone Too Soon. May he finally find the peace that eluded him in life. TOP COMIC BOOK MOVIES 1. AVENGERS 2. CAPTAIN AMERICA 3. THOR 4. SPIDER-MAN 2 5. INCREDIBLE HULK 6. IRON MAN 7. SPIDER-MAN 8. X2 9. V FOR VENDETTA 10. X-MEN FIRST CLASS

06-14-2012, 01:32 AM	#11
Oberon sexton Warden of the North. Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: The Lands of Always Winter. Posts: 5,688	Re: Bring on the bad guys!!!! LaSkull may still be alive, also Justin Hammer is still alive. __________________ "Goodnight Springton. There will be no encore."

06-14-2012, 08:54 AM	#12
DrCosmic Professor of Power Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: In the Moment Posts: 3,260	Re: Bring on the bad guys!!!! Justin Hammer's not much of a threat... Red Skull might be alive out there somewhere... Abomination is in custody... Loki is still alive... Uh.... that's it. __________________ WW TV Show Ideas "... because he's the hero that we need right now, even if we don't deserve him. Because he's our only hope against the cold dark cosmos. Because he's not our weapon... he's our shield. Our valiant defender, an unmovable guardian. A man of power, a man of virtue. A Man of Steel." #FishburneVoice With a Ph.D in Metascience

06-14-2012, 05:32 PM	#13
Oberon sexton Warden of the North. Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: The Lands of Always Winter. Posts: 5,688	Re: Bring on the bad guys!!!! The Leader is in custody as well. Also bare in mind that in a potential Cap sequel we're very likely to see Zemo so that opens up doors as well. Look I'm just saying that in comparison to other comic films the villains in Marvel studios have a tendency to live, and the fact that they own the rights to Thunderbolts means that it's not outside the realm of possibility for such a villain team up. __________________ "Goodnight Springton. There will be no encore."

06-18-2012, 08:16 PM	#14
Chris Wallace LET'S DO A HEADCOUNT... Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 35,589	Re: Bring on the bad guys!!!! WHo said the Leader was in custody? Can anyone think of an example of bad villainy in an otherwise good movie? __________________ Michael Joseph Jackson 1958-2009. Gone Too Soon. May he finally find the peace that eluded him in life. TOP COMIC BOOK MOVIES 1. AVENGERS 2. CAPTAIN AMERICA 3. THOR 4. SPIDER-MAN 2 5. INCREDIBLE HULK 6. IRON MAN 7. SPIDER-MAN 8. X2 9. V FOR VENDETTA 10. X-MEN FIRST CLASS

06-20-2012, 09:28 PM	#15
Red Mask Human Killing Machine Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 9,710	Re: Bring on the bad guys!!!! When is the Suicide Squad movie coming out? WB mentioned it ages ago! __________________ The swordsmanship's first achievement is the unity of man and sword. Once this unity is attained even a blade of grass can be a weapon. The second achievement is when the sword exists in one's heart. When absent from one's hand one can strike an enemy at paces even with bare hands. Swordsmanship's ultimate achievement is the absence of the sword in both hand and heart. The swordsman is at peace with the rest of the world. He vows not to kill.

06-25-2012, 11:16 AM	#17
Chris Wallace LET'S DO A HEADCOUNT... Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 35,589	Re: Bring on the bad guys!!!! Didn't know there was one? Can you post a cover or some art? __________________ Michael Joseph Jackson 1958-2009. Gone Too Soon. May he finally find the peace that eluded him in life. TOP COMIC BOOK MOVIES 1. AVENGERS 2. CAPTAIN AMERICA 3. THOR 4. SPIDER-MAN 2 5. INCREDIBLE HULK 6. IRON MAN 7. SPIDER-MAN 8. X2 9. V FOR VENDETTA 10. X-MEN FIRST CLASS

06-26-2012, 01:11 AM	#18
Oberon sexton Warden of the North. Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: The Lands of Always Winter. Posts: 5,688	Re: Bring on the bad guys!!!! http://images.wikia.com/marveldataba..._1_Cover_2.jpg __________________ "Goodnight Springton. There will be no encore."

06-26-2012, 08:13 AM	#19
Red Mask Human Killing Machine Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 9,710	Re: Bring on the bad guys!!!! I'd like to see a Black Adam vs. Magneto fight! __________________ The swordsmanship's first achievement is the unity of man and sword. Once this unity is attained even a blade of grass can be a weapon. The second achievement is when the sword exists in one's heart. When absent from one's hand one can strike an enemy at paces even with bare hands. Swordsmanship's ultimate achievement is the absence of the sword in both hand and heart. The swordsman is at peace with the rest of the world. He vows not to kill.

06-26-2012, 08:32 AM	#20
Franklin Richards Banned User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Baxter Building Posts: 23,030	Re: Bring on the bad guys!!!!

07-13-2012, 10:32 PM	#22
Red Mask Human Killing Machine Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 9,710	Re: Bring on the bad guys!!!! Black Adam vs. the Sentry! __________________ The swordsmanship's first achievement is the unity of man and sword. Once this unity is attained even a blade of grass can be a weapon. The second achievement is when the sword exists in one's heart. When absent from one's hand one can strike an enemy at paces even with bare hands. Swordsmanship's ultimate achievement is the absence of the sword in both hand and heart. The swordsman is at peace with the rest of the world. He vows not to kill.

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode