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Old 06-13-2012, 05:38 AM   #1
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The Days Of Future Past storyline hinges on something in the past that must be changed to preserve the future. Assuming something similar will happen in the film, what do you guys think our heroes could/should be trying to avert? and How do you think it will affect the future?

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If they are daring enough, it could be the President Kennedy assassination with Magneto controlling the bullet. Vaughn suggested this in interviews.

If that proves too contentious, the assassination of a fictional figure perhaps?

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Old 06-13-2012, 06:55 AM   #3
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I don't think that they'll use Kennedy assassination, unless they actually want to prevent it and totally rewrite the human history as well.

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Though X3 put a rosy spin on the fallout from "The Last Stand", with the Golden Gate bridge being rebuilt and Erik playing chess in the park, it is reasonable to assume that the high profile nature of Magneto's attack on the island and the near extinction level event created by a former well known mutant advocate would have dire consequences. I could certainly see fearful voters pressing their political representatives to deal with the mutant situation by any means necessary.

The cause of much of this destruction, and the murders of both a preparatory school dean and professor, was Jean Grey. The split in her personality created the third movie's Phoenix, with all of Jean's power and none of her conscience. I thought one of the best scenes in the third film is the confrontation between Logan and Charles in the examination room, in which Professor X takes off the saintly robes and cruelly attacks Logan, refusing to admit his horrific mistake.

I would love to see the First Class Sequel rectify this, with a few survivors (Jackman, Berry and Grammer reprising their roles) running from Sentinels to find the Cerebro created in First Class and attempting (through science!) to send a message to Charles or to their younger selves. This could run currently with a 60s era plot in which a young Jean Grey proves to be a threat, with Erik and Charles debating whether how they should deal with her powers. The message from the future would be that Erik, in this case, was right.

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Old 06-13-2012, 09:35 AM   #5
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Jean Grey won't be Involved Inless they jump to 1970's.

They could use the JFK assassination this way.X-Men/X2 or X-Men/X2/last Stand trilogy was influenced by Magneto and Brotherhood launching a public attack that caused the
public to be aware of mutants ending with death of JFK.At begining of film we see the Sentinles unleashed on world.An attempt Is made by surviving X-Men to change the past.A characer Is sent back In time to warn Xavier and the X-Men at this time of what Magneto and Brootherhood will do and what eventully will come from It.In the end X-Men defeat Brootherhood.They still cause the public to become aware of mutants but they are no longer publicly blamed for the JFK Assassination.At end Magneto causes the JFK assassination as history knows It.

This film Is almost certenly based on Ideas that Bryan Singer had for X4.I doudt any connections to The Last Stand will be made Inless they pull a Casino Royale and get ellen
Page to play Shadowcat.

It's possable they could also start the present part with JFK assassination with Magneto responable for magic bullet and It be a public attack later In the 1960's be event which will eventully lead to Sentinles.

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Looks like I'm going to be rummaging around in my Dad's classic comics tonight...

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If they are daring enough, it could be the President Kennedy assassination with Magneto controlling the bullet. Vaughn suggested this in interviews.

If that proves too contentious, the assassination of a fictional figure perhaps?
Sounds interesting I'd hope they'd have the Botterill to actually have it be JFK as well although it could be viewed as disrespectful but it's been done before in the 80s version of the Twilight Zone and Red Dwarf.

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Old 06-13-2012, 06:10 PM   #8
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As Mrs Vimes said, I doubt the Kennedy assassination will be the big plot because altering that would have dramatic, unnecessarily confusing real-world implications. It's more likely that the change would be something invented for the universe in my opinion.

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Old 06-13-2012, 06:17 PM   #9
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I don't think they should have Magneto assassinate Kennedy because it would be too much like Watchmen where The Comedian shoots Kennedy.

I think the best route to go would be to have someone go back in time to kill Charles before he opened up his school or have Legion go back in time to kill Magneto and kill Charles by accident.

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the question would be:

What's exactly the future the x-men want to change?

The future from the 2000's movies or an even further future?

and how to go back to the 60's would change that future, so far from that time?

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Some are wanting It to be too complicated.Something happens between First Class and X-men which will lead to The sentinles unleashed on world.The Time Travel Is to
prevent this event.

questions are what event are they trying to stop.How far are the past scenes from where First Class ended.Who travels back In time.

Considering how long they have wanted to do days of future past I am sure they will use some elements of the story besides the title.

I don't see why they shouldn't use the JFK assassination If they want to.Let's be honest more will be seeing this film than saw watchman.Plus It would be a more Inmrortant thing here than In watchmen.

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so do you see the x-men from the 90's (for example) going back to the 60's?

or the x-men from the 2000's?

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Sentinels could prove too costly, especially with such a large and expensive cast to pay. Bringing back big names like Jackman is going to cost money. Hugh is said to have earned $25million from X-Men Origins: Wolverine - those sorts of silly salaries don't leave much for the actual film itself!

If not Sentinels, it could be some other terrible future. The Legacy Virus. Genosha. etc.

The one problem with an opening scene showing the X-Men running from Sentinels is that it will be a repeat of the Danger Room sequence from The Last Stand. Won't audiences remember that?

I don't think it will be anything 'obvious'. Not if Bryan Singer has come up with another super-smart story idea.

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That Sentinel scene was BS. All you saw was fog lights and a head after Logan sliced it offscreen. Nobody is gonna call copy cat on that. They will probably call it a Terminator rip off if anything.

If they are doing DOFP there will be Sentinels, fans would rip the movie to **** if they did that story without them.


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Old 06-13-2012, 07:33 PM   #15
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While I may prove to be wrong I don't see Hugh Jackman headling the whole film.He will
be wraping up The wolverine as days of future Past goes before the camers.He previously had another film lined up post The Wolverine.Although as proved with LM he can change his schedule.I think It Is more likely he would only be In a 15-20 opening sequenze set In future.It would be more likely another character time travels.Based on Jackman's schedule there Is possabilty of during second half of film the time traveler seeks out help of the first Class era Wolverine.

Hard to know what exactly Bryan singer has come up with here.But,safe bet It will
Involve Sentinles and Time Travel.Remember with sentinles Singer doesn't care about what was done In Last Stand.The Idea In first Class to show the falling out between
Xavier and Magneto and Xavier being crippled was his.There were reports when he was going to direct of the film showing how Xavier and Magneto ended up on their paths.So,
who knows what awaits In days of future Past.

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I don't see why they shouldn't use the JFK assassination If they want to.Let's be honest more will be seeing this film than saw watchman.Plus It would be a more Inmrortant thing here than In watchmen.
what if its the reserve

instead of Magneto being the assassin, he screws up the timeline by trying to save him?

what if JFK becomes a mutant supporter, an that's why he is being targeted for assassination (by freinds of humanity, or some other anti-mutant group)

in his efforts to stop this, Magneto reveals himself, an in doing so bringing mutant awarness to the general public
(it gets out that JFK not only knew about mutants but supported them and was part of the cover up about there existence, causing the people to turn on him, and leaving room for an anti-mutant politic to raise to power) which begins the war on mutants and sentinels,...ect

so, who ever comes back from the future would have to convince not only Magneto, but Xavier too let the assassination happen for the good of the future, or maybe even have to assassin him them self to save the timeline


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That Sentinel scene was BS. All you saw was fog lights and a head after Logan sliced it offscreen. Nobody is gonna call copy cat on that. They will probably call it a Terminator rip off if anything.

If they are doing DOFP there will be Sentinels, fans would rip the movie to **** if they did that story without them.
The Sentinel scene in X3 was badly executed. Showing a bit of a Sentinel and a hint of DoFP was stupid. The Danger Room should have had a different visual; I appreciated that it was a great way of reintroducing the characters and their powers, but other than that it was clunky, especially the way Jackman suddenly appeared behind the Sentinel head....

I wonder what sort of Sentinels they might have in mind for DoFP?

And I wonder if the Sentinels' mutant-tracking system might be derived from Cerebro (and maybe even Charles' brain) and that the mission to the past has to stop a new Cerebro being built?

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The Sentinel scene in X3 was badly executed. Showing a bit of a Sentinel and a hint of DoFP was stupid. The Danger Room should have had a different visual; I appreciated that it was a great way of reintroducing the characters and their powers, but other than that it was clunky, especially the way Jackman suddenly appeared behind the Sentinel head....

I wonder what sort of Sentinels they might have in mind for DoFP?

And I wonder if the Sentinels' mutant-tracking system might be derived from Cerebro (and maybe even Charles' brain) and that the mission to the past has to stop a new Cerebro being built?
Yeah the Danger Room scene was disappointing.

I really have no idea what they are going with. I would think introducing something that could destroy a species would need some development so maybe time with Trask first building some film version of MasterMold or the first sentinel. I think they will end up being round 10-12 feet tall. If they decided to make them larger I would be stoked, but just cant see that happening in the film series.

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I thought the Danger Room sequence in X3 was pretty good. Minimalist when it came to the Sentinel, but it's done that way for a reason. Wolverine coming out from behind the Sentinel's head is a little iffy, but the rest of it is fun, with enough of an atmosphere of danger to be satisfying. It'd be kind of cool if, instead of opening on a Days of Future Past type sequence in the Danger Room and then revealing it to be fake, they opened on one for X4, and revealed it to be real, not the Danger Room.

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I thought the Danger Room sequence in X3 was pretty good. Minimalist when it came to the Sentinel, but it's done that way for a reason. Wolverine coming out from behind the Sentinel's head is a little iffy, but the rest of it is fun, with enough of an atmosphere of danger to be satisfying. It'd be kind of cool if, instead of opening on a Days of Future Past type sequence in the Danger Room and then revealing it to be fake, they opened on one for X4, and revealed it to be real, not the Danger Room.
There was some fun stuff in there for sure. My disappointment at the time came from wanting to see Sentinels for three movies only to see a half version of one in the X3 opening. Always thought opening an X Film in the Danger Room was a solid idea.

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There was some fun stuff in there for sure. My disappointment at the time came from wanting to see Sentinels for three movies only to see a half version of one in the X3 opening. Always thought opening an X Film in the Danger Room was a solid idea.
I don't think we could have expected any more of a Sentinel, given that we had the cure plot and the Phoenix plot already fighting for space in the film.

The problem with the scene was the execution. The way Colossus encased Rogue in his steel form without having his lifeforce drained. And the way Wolverine awkwardly appeared behind the Sentinel head, with no evidence of his having fallen to the ground with the head.

Using DoFP as the inspiration for that scene indicates the flawed thinking behind The Last Stand: to cram in as much as possible. Hence, Beast, Angel, Dark Phoenix, Juggernaut, Multiple Man, Callisto, Morlocks, Psylocke and, at earlier points in the development, Gambit (looking so wrong in the picture we did see), Omega Red, Dazzler and lord knows who else! It's no wonder Gambit, Omega Red and Dazzler were cut and Psylocke relegated to a cameo role!

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I thought the Danger Room sequence in X3 was pretty good. Minimalist when it came to the Sentinel, but it's done that way for a reason. Wolverine coming out from behind the Sentinel's head is a little iffy, but the rest of it is fun, with enough of an atmosphere of danger to be satisfying. It'd be kind of cool if, instead of opening on a Days of Future Past type sequence in the Danger Room and then revealing it to be fake, they opened on one for X4, and revealed it to be real, not the Danger Room.
I didn't mind the concept, but the execution as others have said was terrible. The scene comes off comedic when it really shouldn't have. The scene was just stupid, much like the movie overall.

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I don't think we could have expected any more of a Sentinel, given that we had the cure plot and the Phoenix plot already fighting for space in the film.

The problem with the scene was the execution. The way Colossus encased Rogue in his steel form without having his lifeforce drained. And the way Wolverine awkwardly appeared behind the Sentinel head, with no evidence of his having fallen to the ground with the head.
I expected them but also I didnt really know all that much about X3 before it came out. I remember hearing they were supposed to be in X1 and 2 so I figured they would have made it in 3. When I heard there was one in a Danger room sequence I figured they would at least show it whole. The lack of Sentinels and Danger room always bothered me in the original X trilogy. Especially when I was younger. I know it was because of budget reasons, but still those things are kinda X men 101 for me.

Not even saying that scene was perfect in any way. Its disappointing in a ton of aspects. I thought it was mindless fun and was just kinda stoked they finally showed the Danger Room and the X men training together. I was shocked it took that long to get shown.


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I'm surprise no one mention Franklin Richards

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They could make it Kelley's son/daughter who picks up his Mutant Registration Act with more lethal options(ie Sentinels) for what was done to him in X1-X2 and then someone goes back to kill him before all of this started and ends killing more people than just him(terrorist explosion linked to mutants) with alters the timeline and brings the Sentinel program online earlier than the original post X3 timeline.

So the dilemma becomes more of what do they let happen?

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