What about a Batman live-action tv series?

[C. Lee]

Originally Posted by OP84CC82

You obviously weren't paying attention to this little item if you think the grappling hook wasn't in the film:

Were you paying attention when you took so much trouble to write a long rebuttle to a post made TWO YEARS ago by a poster who HASN'T BEEN BACK HERE SINCE HE MADE IT?

[OP84CC82]

Originally Posted by C. Lee

Were you paying attention when you took so much trouble to write a long rebuttle to a post made TWO YEARS ago by a poster who HASN'T BEEN BACK HERE SINCE HE MADE IT?

I didn't pay attention to the date.

[Jordacar]

Well, you did post a nice CU of the grapple gun that some of us have never seen before, so it wasn't a total loss

[Homer J. Fong]

Originally Posted by Jordacar

Some cool ideas, I definitely agree with 1 and 3, though I'm not sure exploring different tones would fly on live-action. Personally I really want to see a series with a consistent tone, at least for the first few seasons. If the show is successful for awhile, then they could go a little nuts after they've established the world.

But why does it have to be on HBO?

I'm sure it sounds schizophrenic when I talk about different tones, but I'm thinking about the ability to experiment, more than you'd be able to do in a single feature. There'd be a more or less consistent tone for the series overall, but you'd have that ability to experiment stylistically.

HBO just because it's HBO, and there wouldn't be the kinds of restrictions or pressures from network TV or even basic cable.

[Jordacar]

Originally Posted by Homer J. Fong

HBO just because it's HBO, and there wouldn't be the kinds of restrictions or pressures from network TV or even basic cable.

Of course, because you just can't fulfill the promise of Batman without nudity, swearing, and buckets of blood!

[Homer J. Fong]

Originally Posted by Jordacar

Of course, because you just can't fulfill the promise of Batman without nudity, swearing, and buckets of blood!

Not what I meant, but I get why you'd assume. It's about creative freedom and going where you'd be likely to get the most support and the best input, not the freedom for a ton of gratuitous sex and violence. I don't know why you'd take this (hypothetical) show to NBC or TNT or ABC or wherever else when you could take it to HBO. HBO's not the only option, but in this hypothetical, I'd take it there first, that's all.

[Doctor Who]

It would be a dream if I had a

Jeremy Irons Ra's Al Ghul


Javier Bardem Bane


Together in a face off


If I got to see this at some point, whether live action show or film, I would die a very happy man.

[OP84CC82]

But I think that a way to bypass visual effects stuff is to use some smaller effects houses. Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance used a budget of around 50 million and had some pretty good visuals. Also, this could be a chance to use more old school techniques like miniatures and make-up for characters like Killer Croc, Poison Ivy, and Two-Face. And animatronics for Bane.

[Jordacar]

I thought of another totally random but oddly specific scene I'd love to see on a show. Probably in season 2. After Harvey becomes Two-Face, he meets the Joker. He and Harv would probably have a bit of history by this point, so Two-Face gives him the ol' coin toss, and it comes up good heads. Everyone looks relieved until Two-Face headbutts Joker and proceeds to punch the unholy snot out of him. Two-Face would show how in charge he is, and Joker would still be smiling at the end.

Has there ever been a scene in the comics where Two-Face beat up Joker?

On that note, that's another thing you can do on TV that's a lot harder to do in the movies: watch a wide array of characters and personalities play off each other. In a film, you've got a story to get to.

[KneelBeforeZod]

Originally Posted by Jordacar

I thought of another totally random but oddly specific scene I'd love to see on a show. Probably in season 2. After Harvey becomes Two-Face, he meets the Joker. He and Harv would probably have a bit of history by this point, so Two-Face gives him the ol' coin toss, and it comes up good heads. Everyone looks relieved until Two-Face headbutts Joker and proceeds to punch the unholy snot out of him. Two-Face would show how in charge he is, and Joker would still be smiling at the end.

Has there ever been a scene in the comics where Two-Face beat up Joker?

[Jordacar]

Yeah; kinda like that.

[DawnWarrior]

Watching 'Heart of Ice' again, I think it could be turned into a great two-parter, with the mystery of Mr. Freeze's origin at the center.

[Jordacar]

^Hell yeah, it'd be like the Mr. Freeze movie!

Anyway, I'd say "Fringe", "Person of Interest" and especially "Nikita" are the shows that most have me convinced that a Batman show is doable on network TV. And wouldn't you know it, all three of those shows are from Warner Bros. Television.

[Jambalaya]

It would have to be HBO because Warner owns it.

[Jordacar]

Here we go again

[thecommishjones]

One can only hope this happens someday.

[Jordacar]

Can anyone estimate how much a show like this would cost to produce?

[OP84CC82]

Originally Posted by Jambalaya

It would have to be HBO because Warner owns it.

Yeah, they also own TNT and Cartoon Network. Don't forget about The CW. And besides, they've put their shows on other networks not owned by them as well.

[Jordacar]

It really comes down to money; not cost so much as profit. There's little doubt that an amazing show could be produced on a TV budget, even a full-season network TV budget (which is more than I can say for most A-list superheroes). There's also little doubt that a TV show could be hugely popular. But if WB's accountants calculate that more money can be made with the movies, it'll never happen. If the opposite were the case, if the numbers suggested that a TV show could make as much or more than the movies, WB would make it in a heartbeat.

[GREEN =w= DAY]

HBO would be the perfect place for a Batman show. give it the same budget they give Game Of Thrones, and we will have something special.

[Lord]

I think it could even work in the CW network, i also think that a tv show running alongside the movies could benefit both, i think Star Trek used this strategy, either way a successfull movie and tv show can both find new fans, some people that only watch tv shows may become interested in watching the movies, and people that like the movies and want to see more may be interested in the tv show.

Unfortunatelly most studios probably to trust this strategy.

[Jordacar]

Originally Posted by Lord

I think it could even work in the CW network, i also think that a tv show running alongside the movies could benefit both, i think Star Trek used this strategy, either way a successfull movie and tv show can both find new fans, some people that only watch tv shows may become interested in watching the movies, and people that like the movies and want to see more may be interested in the tv show.

Unfortunatelly most studios probably to trust this strategy.

#sixseasonsandamovie!

[Karem-Knight]

This would be a dream come true if they did it, and let''s face it if they did manage to make it work- it would be the biggest TV Show out there. I mean, think about it- the audience for this show would be HUGE.

[OP84CC82]

Originally Posted by Karem-Knight

This would be a dream come true if they did it, and let''s face it if they did manage to make it work- it would be the biggest TV Show out there. I mean, think about it- the audience for this show would be HUGE.

Not really. People like the Batman movies, but I don't think all kids, teens, and adults would sit down to watch a Batman TV show.

[Jordacar]

Originally Posted by OP84CC82

Not really. People like the Batman movies, but I don't think all kids, teens, and adults would sit down to watch a Batman TV show.

I do.

I wonder how the prospect of syndication would change the figures on the show's potential profits.