Who should be the final villain of the trilogy?

[Picard Sisko]

Let's assume that the Green Goblin is the villain in TASM2. Who is a big enough villain to follow him in the final movie?

I would say Venom is an ideal choice, with maybe 1 smaller villain to be included in the movie.

[awesome232]

It's difficult because the Green Goblin is the biggest baddie of this trilogy. Venom would also be my choice, but I don't know. What if they're able to fit in the Sinister Six because not all bad guy origins have to be explained. Who knows though...

[Anno_Domini]

If Green Goblin is in the sequel, I'll choose Shocker since he's one of the options, although I would totally be fine with either him or Electro.

[Picard Sisko]

Originally Posted by Anno_Domini

If Green Goblin is in the sequel, I'll choose Shocker since he's one of the options, although I would totally be fine with either him or Electro.

I don't think that Shocker is an interesting enough villain to be in a 2 hour movie... unless he is only ONE of the villains.

[Anno_Domini]

Shocker can be an interesting villain and can hold up his own movie if written well enough.

I imagine some scenario as Schultz working for OsCorp where he creates those gauntlets and he becomes blackmailed to be the "guinea pig" in testing out the weapons on Spider-Man or Osborn has someone else be the villain while Schultz only supplies the weapon.

Either way, you can't focus too much on the villain anyways if OsCorp is meant to have a bigger focus on following sequels as well as Norman Osborn.

[Picard Sisko]

I suppose Shocker could hold up a movie if written well enough, but why choose him over villains like Vulture, Electro, Venom, Scorpion, etc? I can't really see the battles being that epic in the film if Shocker is the main villain.

[GwensNeckBrace]

It has to be the Vultress tbh...
Just kidding. I think Venom would be great as a final villain, but I mean we've already seen him on the big screen, maybe not correctly done, but we saw him. If they didn't want to use Venom again, I'd be all for Electro. Maybe even Kraven and take inspiration from "Kraven's Last Hunt".

[Venom75]

Gotta go with Venom. If done right(of course)the whole Venom/symbiote storyline is one dark and disturbing tale,and Venom is Spidey's evil/sinister opposite and it would make for a hell of a battle. However,they may shy away from it because of people comparing the new 3rd Spidey movie to part 3 of Raimi's trilogy. And who knows what they plan to do with the spinoff and it they even want Venom to appear in the new series?

[Tanin]

I choose Mysterio simply because I'm a jerk and it's what I want to see.

[Picard Sisko]

I think that perhaps they can introduce the symbiote to the series, but they don't necessarily have to go into the Venom storyline for this trilogy. It would be nice just to know that it "exists" in that universe, and that perhaps they could go in that direction for a fourth film.

[Anno_Domini]

Originally Posted by Picard Sisko

I suppose Shocker could hold up a movie if written well enough, but why choose him over villains like Vulture, Electro, Venom, Scorpion, etc? I can't really see the battles being that epic in the film if Shocker is the main villain.

The battles could be quite epic. I mean, Shocker could cause a freaking earthquake from his gauntlets. The villain could bring down an entire building on Spidey if he wanted to as shown in a great battle in TSSM.

And Vulture could be a nice choice, but should Webb even try to use a villain for his third film that Raimi wanted for his third film? And that is also the case with Venom...should we really get two villains from Raimi's series and only one new one?

[Picard Sisko]

Originally Posted by Anno_Domini

The battles could be quite epic. I mean, Shocker could cause a freaking earthquake from his gauntlets. The villain could bring down an entire building on Spidey if he wanted to as shown in a great battle in TSSM.

That is true, though we would be lacking aerial battles.

And Vulture could be a nice choice, but should Webb even try to use a villain for his third film that Raimi wanted for his third film? And that is also the case with Venom...should we really get two villains from Raimi's series and only one new one?

Why does it matter if Raimi wanted Vulture for his third film? We never actually got Vulture, and whatever Raimi would have done would be much different from what Webb (or whoever may take over) would do. So honestly that doesn't really count IMO.

We had Venom in SM3 for about 15 minutes, and they didn't capture the character correctly at all. Not a single "WE are Venom." Many fans feel disappointed, and want to see the character given justice in a movie at some point. TASM3 could be a second chance to do the character right. There is so much room for the character to improve in film.

[Majik1387]

Why limit this franchise with the stupid trilogy mindset.

[Venom75]

I think you could do Venom again(there was ALOT of room for improvement anyway)or anyone from Raimi's series. Of course,I believe some new villains should be thrown in,but you gotta do the most popular ones,the ones we all wanna see. When you think of Spidey's rogue gallery,the top 3 ALWAYS have to be considered to appear(Goblin,Venom and Ock). Look at the Batman series. We got Joker and Two-Face again,and now we're also getting Bane and Catwoman...again. I have no problem with that. Truthfully,the only one who I wouldn't mind seeing again is Doc Ock. I only say that because I think Alfred Molina did such a great job with him in part 2 that I don't see a need to re-do the character. But,if he does show up again then that's fine by me.

[Picard Sisko]

Originally Posted by Majik1387

Why limit this franchise with the stupid trilogy mindset.

This movie was referred to as a trilogy. Its not a "stupid" mindset, since trilogies are pretty common among movie franchises. And its not exactly set in stone. They can always make more movies after TASM3. Its Spider-Man, so there will always be more Spider-Man movies.

[Anno_Domini]

Originally Posted by Picard Sisko

That is true, though we would be lacking aerial battles.

We'd be lacking in aerial battles for most of Spidey's rogue gallery.

Why does it matter if Raimi wanted Vulture for his third film? We never actually got Vulture, and whatever Raimi would have done would be much different from what Webb (or whoever may take over) would do. So honestly that doesn't really count IMO.

Besides Vulturess, you can't simply say the concepts would be different.

We had Venom in SM3 for about 15 minutes, and they didn't capture the character correctly at all. Not a single "WE are Venom." Many fans feel disappointed, and want to see the character given justice in a movie at some point. TASM3 could be a second chance to do the character right. There is so much room for the character to improve in film.

15 minutes or no 15 minutes, we still had Venom and that would still be a silly idea to only have one new villain for Webb's series.

Originally Posted by Majik1387

Why limit this franchise with the stupid trilogy mindset.

I think it's only silly if someone doesn't have a plan from the get go to only do a trilogy. With Nolan's film, a trilogy works as it's an unconventional tale of Batman while with TAS-M, there are so many stories to use since it's an "old fashioned" CBM.

[Anno_Domini]

Originally Posted by Venom75

I think you could do Venom again(there was ALOT of room for improvement anyway)or anyone from Raimi's series. Of course,I believe some new villains should be thrown in,but you gotta do the most popular ones,the ones we all wanna see. When you think of Spidey's rogue gallery,the top 3 ALWAYS have to be considered to appear(Goblin,Venom and Ock). Look at the Batman series. We got Joker and Two-Face again,and now we're also getting Bane and Catwoman...again. I have no problem with that. Truthfully,the only one who I wouldn't mind seeing again is Doc Ock. I only say that because I think Alfred Molina did such a great job with him in part 2 that I don't see a need to re-do the character. But,if he does show up again then that's fine by me.

In a film series with 8 villains, one would think that Nolan would have to use villains from before, but with Raimi having only used four*? That brings more choices.

* - I don't count New Goblin as that WASN'T a real Goblin.

[Picard Sisko]

Originally Posted by Anno_Domini

We'd be lacking in aerial battles for most of Spidey's rogue gallery.

And most of Spider-Man's rogues gallery isn't movie worthy.

Besides Vulturess, you can't simply say the concepts would be different.

Either way, it doesn't really matter since Vulture never made it to film. I'm sure the concepts for the Lizard in TASM were going to be similar in Raimi's series if he was used.

15 minutes or no 15 minutes, we still had Venom and that would still be a silly idea to only have one new villain for Webb's series.

I still don't count Venom. I'm sure many Venom fans feel that character got no justice from SM3 and want to see him portrayed on film properly.

I think it's only silly if someone doesn't have a plan from the get go to only do a trilogy. With Nolan's film, a trilogy works as it's an unconventional tale of Batman while with TAS-M, there are so many stories to use since it's an "old fashioned" CBM.

The plan atm is to do a trilogy, but nobody said they were not going to make more SM movies, especially since Spider-Man is the only thing that SONY really has.

[Anno_Domini]

Originally Posted by Picard Sisko

And most of Spider-Man's rogues gallery isn't movie worthy.

Like Venom.

See, we've come full circle

Either way, it doesn't really matter since Vulture never made it to film. I'm sure the concepts for the Lizard in TASM were going to be similar in Raimi's series if he was used.

Exactly; so why would you say the Vulture concept would be different from Raimi's idea?

I still don't count Venom. I'm sure many Venom fans feel that character got no justice from SM3 and want to see him portrayed on film properly.

Of course he wasn't received justice, but he was still in he film and getting only one new villain would be a slap to the face of the fans that would like to see different villains get their due; villains that are more worthy.

The plan atm is to do a trilogy, but nobody said they were not going to make more SM movies, especially since Spider-Man is the only thing that SONY really has.

But the time the trilogy ends, Sony could be buckling under the pressure and finally call it quits though.

Sure, there may be more Spider-Man movies after all, but my bet is for another reboot. It was too soon for this, imo, and it'll be too soon for the next time.

[Picard Sisko]

Originally Posted by Anno_Domini

Like Venom.

See, we've come full circle

He is more movie worthy than Shocker. It is just something that can be argued greatly.

Exactly; so why would you say the Vulture concept would be different from Raimi's idea?

Well in the end, once again, it doesn't matter. Vulture was never in a movie so it really wouldn't matter if ideas were borrowed.

Of course he wasn't received justice, but he was still in he film and getting only one new villain would be a slap to the face of the fans that would like to see different villains get their due; villains that are more worthy.

It would be a bigger slap in the face for Venom fans to never get a proper Venom on film.

But the time the trilogy ends, Sony could be buckling under the pressure and finally call it quits though.

Sure, there may be more Spider-Man movies after all, but my bet is for another reboot. It was too soon for this, imo, and it'll be too soon for the next time.

If the trilogy ends, and Sony calls it quits, then Marvel Studios would get the rights and they would get the chance to make a SM film. It would be a reboot, but probably not another origin story. It is never too soon for more Spider-Man films.

Though I kinda worry that we would be seeing a Miles Morales or something instead of Peter Parker.

[MarvelKnight]

Final villain should be Green Goblin, imho.. Whether it's a trilogy or not, plenty of time will have passed to have a new,fresh and sinister take on the goblin from raimi's SM1.

[Anubis]

Hypno Hustler.

[Picard Sisko]

Originally Posted by MarvelKnight

Final villain should be Green Goblin, imho.. Whether it's a trilogy or not, plenty of time will have passed to have a new,fresh and sinister take on the goblin from raimi's SM1.

Goblin is probably in TASM2.

[Anno_Domini]

Originally Posted by Picard Sisko

He is more movie worthy than Shocker. It is just something that can be argued greatly.

How so? Because the symbiote copied Spider-Man's powers? That's the ONLY reason why someone would think Venom is better, but I'll take the challenge of those gauntlets than a symbiote version copycat that couldn't even be in the entire movie since we have to see a black-suited Spider-Man first.

Well in the end, once again, it doesn't matter. Vulture was never in a movie so it really wouldn't matter if ideas were borrowed.

So you admit it was silly to say the ideas would've been different and that they COULD be the same if Vulture shows up and mirrors Raimi's idea then?

It would be a bigger slap in the face for Venom fans to never get a proper Venom on film.

Whoever said never? There WILL be another series of Spider-Man films. But just for this trilogy? Let's not use two villains we've already seen before. That's the bigger slap to the fans when Webb is only recycling the villains Raimi used and only brought in one(Lizard).

If the trilogy ends, and Sony calls it quits, then Marvel Studios would get the rights and they would get the chance to make a SM film. It would be a reboot, but probably not another origin story. It is never too soon for more Spider-Man films.

Though I kinda worry that we would be seeing a Miles Morales or something instead of Peter Parker.

Nah, we'll definitely be seeing Peter Parker as it doesn't fit to use Miles already since the MCU as it is has only just started. If Marvel Studios gets the right back, then they can start a reboot as fast as they can so they can fit Spidey into the universe before an Avengers installment(hopefully Avengers 3).

[zece]

I'd like too see Kraven. He's intelligent, a great tactician, and a physical threat for Spidey.
Shocker should be a minor villain in the sequel.