Avatar: The Legend Of Korra - Part 2

[sandwraith]

Originally Posted by DarthSkywalker

Lets see.

- She lost two both bloodbenders, and lost 3/4th of the elements in the process.
- Not sure she did much here. They were bait. She played right into Amon's hands.
- This was of his own making. Should of taken more lessons on patience and anger.
- And he was about to get up and kill her, but then he realized his makeup was running.
- I hope this is a joke.

Aang put an end to 100 year old war, fighting arguably the most powerful bender on the planet, enhanced by by Sozin's Comet. And that is avoiding discussion of surviving100 years in an iceberg, Koizilla, his releasing Ba Sing Se from Dai Li, stopping Azula and her drill, etc. There is no contest.

Not yet. Not yet.

As for Ozai being the most powerful bender on the planet that is doubtful. Bumi could easily be the most powerful Bender of his time, or Iroh. Sozin's Comet just gave him a shot in the arm and that he was fighting a kid as the Avatar was probably a kick to him.

Besides, Aang got bailed out by the Avatar State a lot. heck, getting frozen in the iceberg was thanks to the Avatar State.

[Thundercrack85]

Well, it's not like Aang did everything on his own. He had a lot of help too. Zuko was (especially in the long run) a very powerful ally.

Plus, Aang was the last airbender. That alone would make him notable. Being the Avatar, a great hero, etc just adds to his name.

But Korra still has plenty of time for amazing feats.

[sandwraith]

Originally Posted by DarthSkywalker

100 years, in an iceberg. Then wins the war no one else could. Just saying.

It seems more like he won a war no one else actually tried to win. Who knows how long the Earth King or his predecessor were under the thumb of the Dai Li (THANKS KIYOSHI!) and how the Northern Water Tribe probably didn't give a **** until the Fire Nation was finally at their doorstep. I can practically understand what Sozin saw after Roku died. Nothing to stand in between him and the rest of the world.

[DarthSkywalker]

Originally Posted by sandwraith

Not yet. Not yet.

As for Ozai being the most powerful bender on the planet that is doubtful. Bumi could easily be the most powerful Bender of his time, or Iroh. Sozin's Comet just gave him a shot in the arm and that he was fighting a kid as the Avatar was probably a kick to him.

Besides, Aang got bailed out by the Avatar State a lot. heck, getting frozen in the iceberg was thanks to the Avatar State.

What do you mean not yet? Aang ended a war, repaired the relations of the four nations and is now pulling an Obi-Wan more powerful in death routine. He just restored Korra's bending from the great beyond. There will never be a contest.

As Korra and TLA has shown us, one's inability to call on the Avatar State, even in danger, is on them. Korra's lack of spirituality is her own undoing.

I love how you dismiss Ozai and Sozin's Comet as no big thing.

Originally Posted by Thundercrack85

Well, it's not like Aang did everything on his own. He had a lot of help too. Zuko was (especially in the long run) a very powerful ally.

Plus, Aang was the last airbender. That alone would make him notable. Being the Avatar, a great hero, etc just adds to his name.

But Korra still has plenty of time for amazing feats.

You mean Zuko who had to be saved by a teenage girl. That Zuko?

[DarthSkywalker]

Originally Posted by sandwraith

It seems more like he won a war no one else actually tried to win. Who knows how long the Earth King or his predecessor were under the thumb of the Dai Li (THANKS KIYOSHI!) and how the Northern Water Tribe probably didn't give a **** until the Fire Nation was finally at their doorstep. I can practically understand what Sozin saw after Roku died. Nothing to stand in between him and the rest of the world.

And who stopped the Dai Li? And who saved the Northern Water Tribe? And who, even after everyone telling him he had no choice, found a way to stop Ozai without committing murder?

The penguin sledder.

[Thundercrack85]

That's not really fair. I'd say it's a lot like our Hundred Years' War. It was a long running conflict with several periods of active war, but after nearly a century, it turned into a stalemate. Until Joan of Arc showed up and, shook things up. Or in this case, Aang. Though Joan didn't personally defeat the King of England. Probably could have though. Well, Henry VI, at least.

[sandwraith]

Hey the last thing I want to do is to compare the 2 series because that defeats the whole purpose of Legend of Korra being a show on its own. But for all of Aang's victories he had his share of defeats. He didn't stop the Dai Li they succeeded in propagating a coup and the fall of Ba Sing Se. He failed the first time he tried to firebend and this wasted his and everyone else's time as he came to terms with his immaturity and believe me he had bouts of immaturity, a prime example being Bato of the Water Tribe. And here's the kicker: a war that last a 100 years would have ended a lot sooner if he had been more mature about his coming duty instead of running off. His indecision dragged a war on for years while he was under.the water because he ran away from his responsibilities. And he cheated at Earth Rumble 6. Everyone knows this.

[DarthSkywalker]

Originally Posted by sandwraith

Hey the last thing I want to do is to compare the 2 series because that defeats the whole purpose of Legend of Korra being a show on its own. But for all of Aang's victories he had his share of defeats. He didn't stop the Dai Li they succeeded in propagating a coup and the fall of Ba Sing Se. He failed the first time he tried to firebend and this wasted his and everyone else's time as he came to terms with his immaturity and believe me he had bouts of immaturity, a prime example being Bato of the Water Tribe. And here's the kicker: a war that last a 100 years would have ended a lot sooner if he had been more mature about his coming duty instead of running off. His indecision dragged a war on for years while he was under.the water because he ran away from his responsibilities. And he cheated at Earth Rumble 6. Everyone knows this.

You do realize Aang was 12 right? We can start talking growing pains here, but he spent 100 years in suspend animation, which means he was basically 12 when he saved the world. 12. Let me repeat that. 12. At 12 he mastered all the elements. At 12 he smacked the Fire Lord in the face. At 12 he mastered the spinning marbles trick. I am sorry he had a few growing pains, but considering they all broke their own rule about telling the Avatar before age 16, you really can't put that on him.

Also it was Azula, not the Dai Li. She just used them.

[sandwraith]

Darth you are clearly making your point that Aang is TEH GREATEST so I'm not even going to bother arguing. You like Aang. I get that. I like Aang too but this whole comparing nonsense just undermines the whole idea of why Korra and Aang are 2 separate characters. So ok Aang did a LOT or great stuff that a 3 SEASON long series and multiple writers could afford him to do. Kudos. So who is the better hero Batman or Superman?

[DarthSkywalker]

Originally Posted by sandwraith

Darth you are clearly making your point that Aang is TEH GREATEST so I'm not even going to bother arguing. You like Aang. I get that. I like Aang too but this whole comparing nonsense just undermines the whole idea of why Korra and Aang are 2 separate characters. So ok Aang did a LOT or great stuff that a 3 SEASON long series and multiple writers could afford him to do. Kudos. So who is the better hero Batman or Superman?

Superman. Duh.

You brought it up. Korra really hasn't accomplished much and you are already biggin her up. Don't get mad at me because your point was kind of invalid.

[sandwraith]

What I was pointing out was that people are saying as an Avatar she's accomplished very little. What I'm pointing out is that she has done a lot for a 17 year old girl dealing with the politics of a city on the brink of war. Its like comparing Batman solving mystery to Superman punching a meteor. What anyone can solve a mystery right? And mind youI am 'bigging' her up because everyone else seems to want to compare her to Aang which isn't the point of this series. Eh heck. I'm getting involved on a forum. Back to Dynasty Warriors then.

[Nathan]

This just popped into my head. The Last Airbender = Dragon Age Origins. The Legend of Korra = Dragon Age 2. While the first Adventure takes you all over the place, with epic battles and an army to defeat, the second Adventure confines you mostly to a city with more political agendas.

[DarthSkywalker]

Originally Posted by sandwraith

What I was pointing out was that people are saying as an Avatar she's accomplished very little. What I'm pointing out is that she has done a lot for a 17 year old girl dealing with the politics of a city on the brink of war. Its like comparing Batman solving mystery to Superman punching a meteor. What anyone can solve a mystery right? And mind youI am 'bigging' her up because everyone else seems to want to compare her to Aang which isn't the point of this series. Eh heck. I'm getting involved on a forum. Back to Dynasty Warriors then.

I think your choice in video game explains all .

And really, she hasnt done a lot by a 17 year old girl's standard in Avatar universe. Just look at Katara, Toph and Azula.

[sandwraith]

What's your deal? You are the one starting the comparisons not me. You can check that yourself on page 14. And what business of it is yours about what games I play? I suppose you have a comment or comparison about that too?

[DarthSkywalker]

Originally Posted by sandwraith

What's your deal? You are the one starting the comparisons not me. You can check that yourself on page 14. And what business of it is yours about what games I play? I suppose you have a comment or comparison about that too?

I always have an opinion/comment.

It is a valid argument. You start talking about the impressiveness of Korra, who proved not to be all that impressive until Aang stepped in. I like her, but she isn't exactly on the Mount Rushmore of heroes in the universe.

Just compare her to others of the universe. It is like saying, well Wonder Girl is a top hero, if you discount the JL.

[sandwraith]

Originally Posted by DarthSkywalker

I always have an opinion/comment.

It is a valid argument. You start talking about the impressiveness of Korra, who proved not to be all that impressive until Aang stepped in. I like her, but she isn't exactly on the Mount Rushmore of heroes in the universe.

Just compare her to others of the universe. It is like saying, well Wonder Girl is a top hero, if you discount the JL.

I was pointing out her accomplishments thus far and quite frankly you are still comparing. And your last comparison is nonsense and you know it. A more suitable comparison is having Rodimus hold onto the Matrix but everyone knows Optimus held it best.

Clearly you are enjoying this more than me so I'm just going to leave this:

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=232062

Because every point you just used to blatantly compare Aang to to Korra I and the rest of the fandom enjoyed years ago on this very forum before SHH gutted the threads.

So yes enjoy your little joyride on my expense. I'm going off to play as Zhang Liao of Wei so compare him to Ramirez, Samus, Link, Master Chief, Liu Kang, Commander Shephard or whatever you consider a far more superior character as many times as you'd like. Alternatively you could read Romance of the Kingdoms and one up me but then I'd risk you comparing it to the Water Margin or some such.

[DarthSkywalker]

Wow, you took that really hard. Not sure why.

Also wasn't talking favorites, except with Zuko, but what they have accomplished. When you start talking accomplishments, comparisons happen.

[Midnight Black]

Originally Posted by mr. peasant

Honestly, I wish energy/spirit-bending will firmly establish itself as the fifth form of bending (and as a people). Perhaps as the next Avatar after Korra dies? Once that happens, the Avatar will be born as a green-haired, blue-skinned boy.

Earth! Fire! Air! Water! Spirit! Go AVATAR!!!


Think about it... even the rotation fits.


On top of that:

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

In the future, as technology and modernisation take centre stage, the Spirit World slowly shrinks and slips into decline - coalescing into one single entity known as Gaia. On top of that, the Equalist movement in the end emerges victorious - taking away all bending by trapping them into five rings. With bending gone, so too is the Avatar, who can only exist when all five bending forms are combined.

That could work lol. It does all fit too well.

Originally Posted by Primal Slayer

Well we know that Katara was able to waterbend while Sokka was not. And out of Aangs 3 children, only Bumi was the only one not born with the power to bend an element. And Tenzin got Airbending while Kya got water. Each got a genetic trait from one of their parents while Bumi was born without that genetic trait and doesnt seem like Aang ever tried to grant him a power so he could be like his siblings.

And I would imagine if you are born somewhere outside of your bending tribe, you would probably journey there to get the right training of your bending since they would have the proper masters.

Yes, but I still don't see a migration happening on a huge scale just for people to learn from masters especially seeing as how this would be before modern transportation. You're not just going to travel across the world to learn an element back in those days.

Just because Aang did not give bending to his son whom was not born a bender doesn't mean it can be done. Perhaps he did not see a need to do it because there was no point and it would be selfish to give him bending when there was no need or emergency. Sometimes the universe just needs to be. However, I think that if the situation called for it Aang or any avatar now could give bending to whomever as they see fit, especially if the stories of how people learned bending are true.

Originally Posted by sandwraith

What I was pointing out was that people are saying as an Avatar she's accomplished very little. What I'm pointing out is that she has done a lot for a 17 year old girl dealing with the politics of a city on the brink of war. Its like comparing Batman solving mystery to Superman punching a meteor. What anyone can solve a mystery right? And mind youI am 'bigging' her up because everyone else seems to want to compare her to Aang which isn't the point of this series. Eh heck. I'm getting involved on a forum. Back to Dynasty Warriors then.

Batman is the better lol. Superman is just the ideal superhero. Justice league Doom says it all lol. Batman owns Superman lol.

On another note...man you two Darth and Sand provide some entertainment for a guy just waking up in the morning lol.

No you can't compare them, and just because Korra is getting started and is 16 does not mean that her feats are any less. Both Avatars had a team of friends to help them, and both went through their own struggles, though differently and at different points in their lives.

I will say that Korra at 12, non master of all elements could have easily took Aang at 12 pre-master of all elements. I mean if you have to compare Korra was seemingly a prodigy when it came to avatars seeing as how she could bend 3 elements out the gate. However, that is the only comparison I care to make really.

100 years war vs. Political Civil War....they both have their merits and both came in effect at different times of both avatars' lives so its hard to compare.

[DarthSkywalker]

Originally Posted by Midnight Black

That could work lol. It does all fit too well.



Yes, but I still don't see a migration happening on a huge scale just for people to learn from masters especially seeing as how this would be before modern transportation. You're not just going to travel across the world to learn an element back in those days.

Just because Aang did not give bending to his son whom was not born a bender doesn't mean it can be done. Perhaps he did not see a need to do it because there was no point and it would be selfish to give him bending when there was no need or emergency. Sometimes the universe just needs to be. However, I think that if the situation called for it Aang or any avatar now could give bending to whomever as they see fit, especially if the stories of how people learned bending are true.



Batman is the better lol. Superman is just the ideal superhero. Justice league Doom says it all lol. Batman owns Superman lol.

On another note...man you two Darth and Sand provide some entertainment for a guy just waking up in the morning lol.

No you can't compare them, and just because Korra is getting started and is 16 does not mean that her feats are any less. Both Avatars had a team of friends to help them, and both went through their own struggles, though differently and at different points in their lives.

I will say that Korra at 12, non master of all elements could have easily took Aang at 12 pre-master of all elements. I mean if you have to compare Korra was seemingly a prodigy when it came to avatars seeing as how she could bend 3 elements out the gate. However, that is the only comparison I care to make really.

100 years war vs. Political Civil War....they both have their merits and both came in effect at different times of both avatars' lives so its hard to compare.

Aang has the Avatar State. Again wins.

[Midnight Black]

Originally Posted by DarthSkywalker

Aang has the Avatar State. Again wins.

Sans Avatar state Korra wins....Oh and the Avatar is more powerful than any Jedi or Sith. Eat that Obi-Won lol.

[Midnight Black]

Originally Posted by DarthSkywalker

Aang has the Avatar State. Again wins.

Oh and Korra has boobs! And boobs are always greater than non-boobs

[DarthSkywalker]

Originally Posted by Midnight Black

Sans Avatar state Korra wins....Oh and the Avatar is more powerful than any Jedi or Sith. Eat that Obi-Won lol.

So we have to de-power Aang?

And please, in Amon's position, Vader already snapped the necks of Korra and Mako.

Originally Posted by Midnight Black

Oh and Korra has boobs! And boobs are always greater than non-boobs

This is true.

[Midnight Black]

Not de-power, just level the playing field. We haven't seen Korra in the Avatar state yet really nonetheless fight someone while in the state so we can't tell what her power level is compared to Aang's. However, we can judge them both by their mastery or for the sake of argument their possession of bending at the age of 12, 10, 5 etc. So sans avatar state Korra was undoubtedly a stronger fighter.

Vader was an idiot, that succumbed to the will of a pedofile, had half his body turned into a robot, and had to wear a mask to cover his ugly mug. Amon was a leader on his own right and could no doubt separate Vader's human body from his cybernetic implants.

All Amon has to do is throw water on Vader and I'm sure he would short circuit. Danger Danger Will Robinson!

[ironmaidenrules]

So I was thinking how about an evil avatar for the next show.like an extreme version of yangchen and kyoshi. This avatar is a war Lord. Then we have the show be about an elite group trying to kill him and get a new avatar or kill him in avatar state to end the cycle.

would be a nice change of pace

[DarthSkywalker]

Originally Posted by Midnight Black

Not de-power, just level the playing field. We haven't seen Korra in the Avatar state yet really nonetheless fight someone while in the state so we can't tell what her power level is compared to Aang's. However, we can judge them both by their mastery or for the sake of argument their possession of bending at the age of 12, 10, 5 etc. So sans avatar state Korra was undoubtedly a stronger fighter.

Vader was an idiot, that succumbed to the will of a pedofile, had half his body turned into a robot, and had to wear a mask to cover his ugly mug. Amon was a leader on his own right and could no doubt separate Vader's human body from his cybernetic implants.

All Amon has to do is throw water on Vader and I'm sure he would short circuit. Danger Danger Will Robinson!

Aang's use of Airbending was rarely confrontational. Which is why he spent many battles just avoiding Zuko's and others attacks. However at 12, he was clearly a superior warrior to Korra. Just ask Ozai.

Oh, and Vader doesn't need his hands to choke a fool out, miles way. Apology accepted.