Captain America 2: News and Speculation

[marcvader]

Then dont bother using Falcon, that'd be a waste.

[Blackman]

yeah that'd be a big waste

[spideymouse]

Originally Posted by Hawkingbird

No one still seems to be noticing that Winter Soldier is going to turn up one day

Originally Posted by Webfoot Hero

You don't have Bucky show up and then die by falling into an icy body of water if you don't plan on using him again. Plus, I think Sebastian Stan signed a multi-film deal, which probably means they'll use him in other movies.

Originally Posted by babykhris

I watched the AEMH episode "Winter Soldier" and it got me thinking.

Would the Nick Fury lost his eye because on Winter Soldier story work in the MCU? It could be mentioned and could be a good way to set Winter Soldier up for Cap 3.

Originally Posted by cherokeesam

If that angle was used, it would have to be addressed immediately....not teasing it for a movie that's years away (and hasn't even been officially announced yet). Once Winter Soldier is introduced, Cap is obviously going to have a meeting with him, Priority One.

Yeah, I just watched the two A:EMH episodes featuring Winter Soldier, and I just got that much more excited about his eventual reappearance in future Cap movies. I wasn't so sure how keen MS would be on incorporating character developments that have occurred so recently in comics, but then I realized that IM's triangle chest plate, Maria Hill, and pretty much all of the Ultimates-influenced aspects of the MCU have all come about in the past decade or so.

I'm ready for some Winter Soldier! I'm actually not all that familiar with Brubaker's books (I don't read comics), so can anyone tell me what a good story with WS could be?

[Hawkingbird]

You could read the comics

[BullMcGiveny]

Originally Posted by spideymouse

Yeah, I just watched the two A:EMH episodes featuring Winter Soldier, and I just got that much more excited about his eventual reappearance in future Cap movies. I wasn't so sure how keen MS would be on incorporating character developments that have occurred so recently in comics, but then I realized that IM's triangle chest plate, Maria Hill, and pretty much all of the Ultimates-influenced aspects of the MCU have all come about in the past decade or so.

I'm ready for some Winter Soldier! I'm actually not all that familiar with Brubaker's books (I don't read comics), so can anyone tell me what a good story with WS could be?

I'd read Brubaker's Captain America from the beginning.

[KalMart]

Aren't they just going to stick with Avengers? They probably should, seeing that Cap I wasn't that good.

[BullMcGiveny]

Originally Posted by KalMart

Aren't they just going to stick with Avengers? They probably should, seeing that Cap I wasn't that good.

I think you'll find that that isn't actually the opinion of most people.

[marcvader]

Originally Posted by KalMart

Aren't they just going to stick with Avengers? They probably should, seeing that Cap I wasn't that good.

[cherokeesam]

Taken with large doses of salt, but The Playlist did a major podcast yesterday which, if true, pretty much spoilers the entire Phase II of MCU in large chunks. Very interesting stuff here, and a lot of it is admittedly sketchy, but the guy has alleged insider info on IM3, Thor 2, Hulk 2 (yes, Hulk 2), Avengers 2, Black Panther's possible future in the movies, and Cap 2. Again, LOTS of spoilers, but read at your own risk about the very early outline for Cap 2:

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

Cap 2:
-Arnim Zola and Winter Soldier main villains. Sebastian Stan apparently signed for multiple movies. There will also be a Russian terrorist group which "may or may not be HYDRA."
-Widow and Hawkeye supporting roles; they might expand upon their relationship.
- Sharon Carter love interest. Marvel apparently wants Hayley Atwell for the role.
-Nick Fury flashbacks with Gen. Ross rivalry
-cast of previous first avenger may return for flashbacks
- early draft was going to introduce Punisher, whose rights have been re-acquired by Marvel Studios (so has Blade, for those of you who might be out of the loop). That angle was scrapped, and Punisher doesn't have a cameo.
- The Russos want to emphasize heavy action in the movie.

For those who want to hear the podcast (again, the most spoilerific of spoilers for a LOT of movies, both Marvel and DC, so listen at your own risk):

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplayli...ngers-20120625

[R_Hythlodeus]

There is not enough salt in this world to take it with those rumors.

Originally Posted by cherokeesam

Taken with large doses of salt, but The Playlist did a major podcast yesterday which, if true, pretty much spoilers the entire Phase II of MCU in large chunks. Very interesting stuff here, and a lot of it is admittedly sketchy, but the guy has alleged insider info on IM3, Thor 2, Hulk 2 (yes, Hulk 2), Avengers 2, Black Panther's possible future in the movies, and Cap 2. Again, LOTS of spoilers, but read at your own risk about the very early outline for Cap 2:

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

Cap 2:
-Arnim Zola and Winter Soldier main villains. Sebastian Stan apparently signed for multiple movies. There will also be a Russian terrorist group which "may or may not be HYDRA."
-Widow and Hawkeye supporting roles; they might expand upon their relationship.
- Sharon Carter love interest. Marvel apparently wants Hayley Atwell for the role.
-Nick Fury flashbacks with Gen. Ross rivalry
-cast of previous first avenger may return for flashbacks
- early draft was going to introduce Punisher, whose rights have been re-acquired by Marvel Studios (so has Blade, for those of you who might be out of the loop). That angle was scrapped, and Punisher doesn't have a cameo.
- The Russos want to emphasize heavy action in the movie.

For those who want to hear the podcast (again, the most spoilerific of spoilers for a LOT of movies, both Marvel and DC, so listen at your own risk):

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplayli...ngers-20120625

[Young Superman]

I hope they don't make any major changes to the costume. The Cap costume in Avengers was almost perfect.

[BullMcGiveny]

Salt indeed.

I mean it sounds okay, I guess. If true, I'm not happy about Zola or using Hydra again or using Winter Soldier this early.

Originally Posted by cherokeesam

Taken with large doses of salt, but The Playlist did a major podcast yesterday which, if true, pretty much spoilers the entire Phase II of MCU in large chunks. Very interesting stuff here, and a lot of it is admittedly sketchy, but the guy has alleged insider info on IM3, Thor 2, Hulk 2 (yes, Hulk 2), Avengers 2, Black Panther's possible future in the movies, and Cap 2. Again, LOTS of spoilers, but read at your own risk about the very early outline for Cap 2:

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

Cap 2:
-Arnim Zola and Winter Soldier main villains. Sebastian Stan apparently signed for multiple movies. There will also be a Russian terrorist group which "may or may not be HYDRA."
-Widow and Hawkeye supporting roles; they might expand upon their relationship.
- Sharon Carter love interest. Marvel apparently wants Hayley Atwell for the role.
-Nick Fury flashbacks with Gen. Ross rivalry
-cast of previous first avenger may return for flashbacks
- early draft was going to introduce Punisher, whose rights have been re-acquired by Marvel Studios (so has Blade, for those of you who might be out of the loop). That angle was scrapped, and Punisher doesn't have a cameo.
- The Russos want to emphasize heavy action in the movie.

For those who want to hear the podcast (again, the most spoilerific of spoilers for a LOT of movies, both Marvel and DC, so listen at your own risk):

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplayli...ngers-20120625

[R_Hythlodeus]

Originally Posted by Young Superman

I hope they don't make any major changes to the costume. The Cap costume in Avengers was almost perfect.

Sarcasm. I get it!

[cherokeesam]

Originally Posted by BullMcGiveny

Salt indeed.

I mean it sounds okay, I guess. If true, I'm not happy about Zola or using Hydra again or using Winter Soldier this early.

I think

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

HYDRA is pretty much a given....they're the Marvel Universe's most iconic and catch-all generic bad guys, and in the MCU, a reborn HYDRA would have special meaning to Cap. I would've chosen Zemo or Strucker or even Viper to lead the reborn HYDRA, though, but I'm okay with Zola returning. I agree that WS is a little early, though....I'd save him for a post-cred in Cap 2.

[RamseyBoy]

Originally Posted by KalMart

Aren't they just going to stick with Avengers? They probably should, seeing that Cap I wasn't that good.

Actually the Cap movie is widely thought of as the best Marvel solo movie behind Iron Man. And in my opinion, rightly so.

It falls apart towards the end, but the first hour or so is just perfect. It completely nails the Steve Rogers character and Chris Evans gives a really heart felt and nuanced performance.

[BullMcGiveny]

Originally Posted by cherokeesam

I think

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

HYDRA is pretty much a given....they're the Marvel Universe's most iconic and catch-all generic bad guys, and in the MCU, a reborn HYDRA would have special meaning to Cap. I would've chosen Zemo or Strucker or even Viper to lead the reborn HYDRA, though, but I'm okay with Zola returning. I agree that WS is a little early, though....I'd save him for a post-cred in Cap 2.

Yeah, bit it also makes Cap seem ineffectual. If they want Russian henchmen, they can use Leviathan, or Aleksaner Lukin's Kronas security force. Or AIM. Hydra is more of a SHIELD-antagoist, ayway.

[Webfoot Hero]

Originally Posted by BullMcGiveny

Yeah, bit it also makes Cap seem ineffectual. If they want Russian henchmen, they can use Leviathan, or Aleksaner Lukin's Kronas security force. Or AIM. Hydra is more of a SHIELD-antagoist, ayway.

But considering Cap is basically now a SHIELD operative, Hydra makes a lot of sense.

[TacomaTruck90]

Originally Posted by RamseyBoy

Actually the Cap movie is widely thought of as the best Marvel solo movie behind Iron Man. And in my opinion, rightly so.

It falls apart towards the end, but the first hour or so is just perfect. It completely nails the Steve Rogers character and Chris Evans gives a really heart felt and nuanced performance.

Agreeded Captain Americas was my favorite film out of all of them, not to make any excuses but I feel most movies fall apart at the end ( even the avengers ending was a kinda weak despite being a very good overall film) from that podcast it's going to be very interesting if atleast 20% or more is accurate I like ideas of masters of evil that maybe thanos could assemble and build him even more

[marcvader]

I'm not too keen on Thanos using a team. I want to see him fight everyone on his own.

[Hawkingbird]

Originally Posted by Blackman

Oh okay. For me I want him to be a SHIELD agent. I want Falcon and Sharon to kinda be his new age Howling Commandos.
I wouldnt mind them being rookies who have this kinda hero worship thing with Captain America who have Cap's screw the rules I'm doing what's right kinda mentality

Cap being a SHIELD agent would slightly clash with the Civil War story line, but then again they obviously are seperate.

[marcvader]

I doubt Cap is an actual SHIELD agent. He works with SHIELD as he's always done in the comics.

[DarkSovereignty]

Originally Posted by Hawkingbird

Cap being a SHIELD agent would slightly clash with the Civil War story line, but then again they obviously are seperate.

and I doubt they'll use the civil war story in the comics ::knocks on wood;:

[BullMcGiveny]

Originally Posted by Hawkingbird

Cap being a SHIELD agent would slightly clash with the Civil War story line, but then again they obviously are seperate.

Cap has always, up until Civil War actually, been portrayed as an ally of SHIELD and an occasional operative.

Besides, Downey Tony really doesn't seem like he's going to be spearheading the SHRA.

[cherokeesam]

Originally Posted by BullMcGiveny

Cap has always, up until Civil War actually, been portrayed as an ally of SHIELD and an occasional operative.

Besides, Downey Tony really doesn't seem like he's going to be spearheading the SHRA.

Yeah, I see no evidence of the MCU even needing a registration act.

[Hawkingbird]

You would need MUCH more characters.