Avatar: The Legend Of Korra - Part 2

[MarvelKnight]

Originally Posted by Spidey-Bat

I hated Physics. Somehow my math was always off

Count me out of anything math based. Somehow I got a B+ in college chem. (no I did not cheat lol)

My best subjects were always English and History.

Until Amon was revealed I sooo thought he might have been Koh in physical form. I just watched the finale again earlier today and I still say "WTF" when the reveal from Tarrlok comes lol. LoK is bad-frickin-asss.

[Iron_Burger]

Originally Posted by sandwraith

There is no subtle bloodbending at least none has been seen in the show and more than likely he wanted to create the confusion and scatter the crowd so he could deal with Korra all by his lonesome.

Doesn't Mako straight up say after finding out that Amon is a bloodbender that he must be "turning away attacks with his mind" or something similar? Obviously Mako could be wrong but it makes sense. The reason Amon seemed so good at dodging attacks was precisely because of his bloodbending power, he made them miss.

Originally Posted by sandwraith

People wanted Amon to be this untouchable uber-badass and yes, even I had such involved hopes for him but this ending has its reasons and I think they ended it in a way that was respectable.

I didn't want Amon to be unstoppable, a powered up Avatar trumps bloodbending every time. I just think the writers made Amon make a whole bunch of stupid mistakes in a row to make Korra look good in the last episode. I predicted that was the PIS route the writers would go to unravel the smart revolutionary, but I was still disappointed by it.

But Korra overall did a pretty mediocre job taking down the revolution imho. Amon beat Amon more than she did. Mako threw down and gave Amon a real fight and overall Asumi, Iroh and hell even Chief Beifong did much more than her in bringing the fight to the streets.

[DarkSovereignty]

I disagree with that. in fact, I felt Korra really didn't off as much of a victor until she started airbending.

[Iron_Burger]

Originally Posted by DarkSovereignty

Korra really didn't off as much of a victor until she started airbending.

The weirdest thing about her airbending wasn't that she activated it at just the right moment, but that she was doing a firebending stance when she started shooting puffs of air.

[MarvelKnight]

I'm not goign to give the show a black mark because of a stance issue. She was in the heat of the moment and in a fight for her life for all intents and purposes. I think I'll let that slide

[Iron_Burger]

Originally Posted by MarvelKnight

She was in the heat of the moment and in a fight for her life for all intents and purposes.

That is precisely why airbending shouldn't have worked. In the Avatar universe ones bending stance ties directly into ones movement, mental state, breathing pattern, etc. It's the key to getting one's chi following correctly. This stance knowledge is why so many firebenders can shoot lightning now.

Korra was acting and thinking like a firebender, getting that remaining chi going without even tapping into it properly must have been a miracle received from her past lives.

[Rocanrol]

She wasn't airbending perse, she was doing what she could. They do not have to stand and move exactly like the bending masters to bend, but to bend BETTER. That's why Katara screaming and making a scene crack the iceberg, a sneeze could send Aang a few meters into the air, etc etc. She was making what she could do in the heat of the moment, being totally coherent with the series.

[Midnight Black]

Originally Posted by Spidey-Bat

All Air Nomads were Airbenders (and vice-versa) from what we've seen. They were the most secluded race, so the likely explanation is that they never mingled with people of other races (benders and non-benders). Because of this, we can assume Aang's parents were both airbenders.

Since Air Nomads are considered a race/ethnicity, that means Kya and Bumi are (in addition to being Water Tribe) so they are the first non-airbending Air Nomads we know of.

I don't think you can say they were the strongest of the 4 races due to every member being an Airbender. Their culture emphasized peace and spirituality and their bending philosophy was primarily defensive (avoid and evade), using very few offensive tactics. The most powerful airbender we know of besides Aang (and maybe Tenzin) was Monk Gyatso since he took out a ton of Firebenders during Sozin's Comet.



I hated Physics. Somehow my math was always off

By strongest race, I mean that they had they must have had the most pure and strongest blood out of them all to not have any non-bending air benders. I still think that only the monks were benders and that there were non-bending nomads.


Also, perhaps her bending only worked was because Aang was watching over her, or maybe she did tap into it. I understand the argument about her stance and using fire-bending force to bend air. Perhaps even though her form was wrong she was still able to produce results.

[Spidey-Bat]

Originally Posted by Midnight Black

By strongest race, I mean that they had they must have had the most pure and strongest blood out of them all to not have any non-bending air benders. I still think that only the monks were benders and that there were non-bending nomads.

There's no evidence to suggest this. One of the requirements of an Air Nomad receiving their arrow is mastering airbending, and every Air Nomad we saw without one was in-training.

The Air Acolytes on Air Temple Island are non-airbenders who follow the Air Nomad lifestyle.

[Midnight Black]

That suggests then that all Air nomads were benders, and seeing how we have seen non-benders in every other bending "race" then I'm sure there were non bending air benders. There had to be, unless that was the one element that was purer or had the highest likelihood, I mean 100%, of producing air benders.

[gregtestagent]

Originally Posted by Iron_Burger

That is precisely why airbending shouldn't have worked. In the Avatar universe ones bending stance ties directly into ones movement, mental state, breathing pattern, etc. It's the key to getting one's chi following correctly. This stance knowledge is why so many firebenders can shoot lightning now.

Korra was acting and thinking like a firebender, getting that remaining chi going without even tapping into it properly must have been a miracle received from her past lives.

stances and movements only direct an elemental discharge, they don't create it. Any or all movements will be enough to make a reaction. Take Katara for instance, didn't know one stance or movement, but was still able to manipulate water. Since Korra is the Avatar, she is an Airbender, like the Guru said to Aang about Firebending. If all she had was her Airbending at the time, any movement would create a rudimentary Air attack, which we saw.

[DarkSovereignty]

yeah, the same way iroh was able to use a waterbending form for a firebending technique.

[Spidey-Bat]

Originally Posted by Midnight Black

That suggests then that all Air nomads were benders, and seeing how we have seen non-benders in every other bending "race" then I'm sure there were non bending air benders. There had to be, unless that was the one element that was purer or had the highest likelihood, I mean 100%, of producing air benders.

The Air Nomads seem to be an exception, they were the most secluded of the 4 nations. There is no evidence of non-airbending Air Nomads pre-genocide. In addition to the previous points I've made, the Air Temples were all built in remote locations on mountaintops (or under them) making it very difficult for a non-airbender to travel or live in them.

[Midnight Black]

I agree that the temples were built in remote locations and were possibly only accessible to air benders, but it was my belief that the monks were the air benders as they were thought to have the gift or chose the life of a monk. Where is it said that the air-nomads were all benders? Or that Aang's parents were both benders? I mean from the limited flashbacks we were given most of the air benders shown seemed to be monks.

Until proven otherwise I still believe that there were non-bending air nomads, as 3/4 of the total races have non-bending people.

[Spidey-Bat]

Originally Posted by Midnight Black

I agree that the temples were built in remote locations and were possibly only accessible to air benders, but it was my belief that the monks were the air benders as they were thought to have the gift or chose the life of a monk. Where is it said that the air-nomads were all benders?

Every Air Nomad shown in flashbacks was an Airbender.

Or that Aang's parents were both benders?

Because of the above statement, it is inferred that Aang's parents were benders.

I mean from the limited flashbacks we were given most of the air benders shown seemed to be monks.

The Air Nomads themselves were a monastic order. Their entire culture was based on peace and spirituality.

Until proven otherwise I still believe that there were non-bending air nomads, as 3/4 of the total races have non-bending people.

There is no evidence that a non-bending Air Nomad ever existed. However, the evidence that all Air Nomads were airbenders is much more convincing.

[gregtestagent]

Well, if Aang couldn't give Airbending to to people, he did a poor job at getting the ball rolling on rebuilding the race. He needed like ten wives XD

[sandwraith]

That he has 1 wife as pretty as Katara is good enough. Its funny how the Air Nomads seem so detached from themselves that they hardly ever bring up family. I don't think Aang ever mentions his birth parents. Food for thought: If the Air Nomads did practice gender segregation as part of their daily routine how exactly do Air Nomads hook up and "marry" if they even have such a practice. Also Aang mentions that he has travelled to certain parts of the world before like Omashu and the Fire Nation where he met Kuzon before the war(?). What was the nature of these journeys? Collecting Alms?

[craigdbfan]

Air nomads may have had some sort of arranged marriage system. Just a guess.

[Thundercrack85]

The name is a bit odd. Nomad would imply that they are nomadic. Yet we never really see any of them being nomadic. Well, possibly Aang, but he was on a quest to save the world. Surprised they didn't have floating cities...

The cartoon seems to imply that all air nomads live monk-like lifestyles, which seems rather implausible.

Contrary to popular belief, most Tibetans are not monks (and have hair).

Polyandry was quite common in their culture. Not unusual for two brothers to be married to the same wife.

[Spidey-Bat]

Originally Posted by sandwraith

Food for thought: If the Air Nomads did practice gender segregation as part of their daily routine how exactly do Air Nomads hook up and "marry" if they even have such a practice.

I always imagined they had "mating seasons" where the men and women would mingle and hook up.

[Midnight Black]

Meh, I think there were monks and just nomads, though they all stayed in one place...weird name to give I guess. The monks were benders or people that chose they life, but mostly benders as they saw it as a gift and calling. Everyone else that wash't an airbender were just part of the people.

I mean there is not enough evidence to suggest that all Air nomads were benders or otherwise, nor were all nomads monks. I doubt that air benders were the only race to have 100% benders in their race, just doesn't seem to fit, sorry.

[Midnight Black]

Also, because Aang seemed to be born into the monk order, it doesn't even seem like he knew his parents. Maybe babies were born and just given to the village.

[Spidey-Bat]

Originally Posted by Midnight Black

I mean there is not enough evidence to suggest that all Air nomads were benders or otherwise, nor were all nomads monks. I doubt that air benders were the only race to have 100% benders in their race, just doesn't seem to fit, sorry.

You say there isn't enough evidence to suggest all Air Nomads were Airbenders, but there's even less (really none) that suggests non-bending Air Nomads existed.

[mr. peasant]

Originally Posted by Spidey-Bat

You say there isn't enough evidence to suggest all Air Nomads were Airbenders, but there's even less (really none) that suggests non-bending Air Nomads existed.

And just as little evidence that Airbenders/monks had parents. OMG!! The Air Nomads reproduced by spores!!

[Midnight Black]

Lol,

I think any point is valid until the creators confirm otherwise.