State your unpopular film related opinion - Part 9

[Homer J. Fong]

Funny there's all this talk about Spider-Man 3 right now - I mean, it makes sense because of The Amazing Spider-Man having opened last week, but also, the podcast "How Did This Get Made?" is doing their next episode about Spider-Man 3. I don't think it's as bad as to deserve that ('though I do think it's bad), but that is a fun podcast.

[Spider-Aziz]

Originally Posted by TomServo

I actually like Superman 3.

Don't worry, you're not alone

Originally Posted by Homer J. Fong

May I ask why?

Cause it's fun

[spider-neil]

I think SM3 is the best of a bad bunch.

X3
SM3
Blade Trinity
Batman Forever
Superman 3

[Rowsdower!]

Hmmm... Well, you might have a point there. But trying to figure out which one of those threequels is the best (or the least sh**ty) is a bit of an arduous task. Seriously, I don't even know how to rank them because not only are they all terrible movies, but they each have at least one component that irritates me so much it makes it tough to rank any of them above ANYTHING, even each other:

X3 - the emo mutant battle at the end, Vinnie Jones' awful Juggernaut, terrible handling of Cyclops (again) and Phoenix/Jean Grey, the fact that Kelsey Grammer was in it, etc.

SM3 - all the reasons I mentioned in a previous post, plus Kirsten Dunst singing.

Blade Trinity - the worst depiction of Dracula since Gerard Butler's Michael Hutchence version in Dracula 2000

Batman Forever - NIPPLES NIPPLES NIPPLES, Tommy Lee Jones ruining Two-Face, Val Kilmer's lisp (I'M BATHMAN!), Chris O'Donnell

Superman 3 - F**king Richard Pryor

[Spider-Aziz]

Originally Posted by spider-neil

I think SM3 is the best of a bad bunch.

X3
SM3
Blade Trinity
Batman Forever
Superman 3

I like those movies, with exception to Blade, didn't watch that movie
X-Men 3 is better than SM3

[El Payaso]

Originally Posted by spider-neil

I think SM3 is the best of a bad bunch.

X3
SM3
Blade Trinity
Batman Forever
Superman 3

Unpopular here: Batman Forever is better. And X3 much much much better.

[SoNicRaDiATioN]

X3 and SM3. The biggest punches to my gut in a cinema that I can rememember for a long long time. But SM3 is better. At least it had some brief moments where it rose above it's mediocrity. I can't say that for X3.

[Captain_Obvious]

Originally Posted by spider-neil

I think SM3 is the best of a bad bunch.

X3
SM3
Blade Trinity
Batman Forever
Superman 3

All fun to watch with angry fans and fellow nit-pickers.
The arguments are always priceless.

[Max J Power]

I kind of liked Blade Trinity. It's not good, but unlike X-Men 3 and Spider-Man 3, Trinity didn't have parts that were so bad I didn't enjoy it. The villain and Blade's associates weren't as good as the first two movies, but they were decently entertaining. Maybe it's just because I don't have much attachment to vampires or the Blade characters in the way I do Spider-Man, X-Men, etc., but nothing about Trinity struck me as worse than mediocre.

[CConn]

Spider-Man ware ally had the potential to be very TDK-esque in terms of plot structure, but Raimi seemed to make some bad choices out of nowhere, and it all fell apart in the editing room.

X3 is just irrehensable. It felt more like a cobbled together grouping of action scenes than a legitimate movie.

Batman Forever is a classic. Their intentions were off, of course, but you could actually tell it was made by professionals.

[Travesty]

I like Batman Forever, although, its not a perfect Batman movie, by any means.

[El Payaso]

Originally Posted by SoNicRaDiATioN

X3 and SM3. The biggest punches to my gut in a cinema that I can rememember for a long long time. But SM3 is better. At least it had some brief moments where it rose above it's mediocrity. I can't say that for X3.

I haven't yet heard one single reason why X3 is actually bad yet.

I have the dancing scene for SM3, which is the spider equivalent of the bat-credit card. Only longer.

Originally Posted by CConn

Spider-Man ware ally had the potential to be very TDK-esque in terms of plot structure, but Raimi seemed to make some bad choices out of nowhere, and it all fell apart in the editing room.

I'm sorry but that dancing scene, the butler, the kitchen twist, that guy as Venom, emo hairstyle Peter, the jazz club scene, Jameson as a (at this point) pathetic comedic relief, the camera-selling little girl, the wicked cool boys, that Raimi's buddie who he insists in giving cameos to and his stomach cramps-inducing scene of the French guy, poor copy of a Inspector Clousau routine. That was done long before the editing. No editing could have saved that. Except if left out.

Originally Posted by CConn

X3 is just irrehensable. It felt more like a cobbled together grouping of action scenes than a legitimate movie.

Really? Because it had tons of scenes with dialogue and story happening.

Originally Posted by CConn

Batman Forever is a classic. Their intentions were off, of course, but you could actually tell it was made by professionals.

In its own tone, it was fine. Except for Two-Face, that was a unredeemable miss.

[Sydney Aradi]

I don't think that Gigli is that bad of a film. There are WORSE films to bash above Gigli like: Beast of Yucca Flats, Battlefield Earth, Inspector Gadget The live action film, Superman 4 and so on.

#JustSayian

[CConn]

Originally Posted by El Payaso

I'm sorry but that dancing scene, the butler, the kitchen twist, that guy as Venom, emo hairstyle Peter, the jazz club scene, Jameson as a (at this point) pathetic comedic relief, the camera-selling little girl, the wicked cool boys, that Raimi's buddie who he insists in giving cameos to and his stomach cramps-inducing scene of the French guy, poor copy of a Inspector Clousau routine. That was done long before the editing. No editing could have saved that. Except if left out.

That's what I meant by "Raimi's bad choices", chief.

Really? Because it had tons of scenes with dialogue and story happening.

No, it didn't. It was awful. That's one point I'd never budge on.

In its own tone, it was fine. Except for Two-Face, that was a unredeemable miss.

That's a very bland way of looking at it.

Personally, I'd say everything involving the villains was a mess. But there was a point to it; Schumacher was going for a tongue-in-cheek homage to 60s Batman. Now, that approach has both its positives, and very much has its negatives overall, but the overall conceptual premise - and more importantly, the technical filmmaking aspects of the movie - are extremely strong.

[I Am Jack's...]

I absolutely hate Black Swan. Can't stand watching it.

[Schlosser85]

I think Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 are more fun than The Amazing Spider-Man.

[Drizzle]

Originally Posted by Schlosser85

I think Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2 are more fun than The Amazing Spider-Man.

Well, the new film is pretty dark, even though the carjacker scene is the funniest scene in any Spider-Man movie.

[Rowsdower!]

I don't know how anyone can defend Batman Forever. The movie was treated like a big f**king joke. Everything looked cheap and completely fake (I thought this the first time I saw it, when I was about 14 years old), the acting by EVERYONE was terrible, the story was ridiculous...

I guess Schumacher actually did himself a favor when he made Batman & Robin. By making that movie--which still arguably reigns supreme as the sh**tiest superhero movie of all time--he managed to make people forget that he actually made two sh**ty superhero movies.

[Matt Mortem]

I guess this is an unpopular opinion of mine, I don't think X3 is a bad movie. Yeah, they ****ed with the characters and thats a bummer, but as far as a film goes it's not bad IMHO.

[spider-neil]

Originally Posted by Drizzle

Well, the new film is pretty dark, even though the carjacker scene is the funniest scene in any Spider-Man movie.

Even the car jacker scene is dark.

[spider-neil]

I can't stand the pre Nolan Bat movies.

It ranges from 'meh' for Bat '89 to outright hate for B&R. Four movies and I was engaged TWO TIMES;

1. The 'let's get nuts' scene

2. The bit where they explore the Bruce/Batman psyche in Batman Forever

Two scenes in FOUR movies. Those movies are nowhere near my Blu ray collection. Although I absolutely LOVE the new ASM movie I still hold the Raimi movie dear and wont be getting rid of those movies (even SM3 which has the Sandman birth scene).


For another unpopular opinion I have an idea of what I think Batman should be (from my reading of the comics) if I were to give my ideal for Batman a perfect 10 then Nolan has only acheived a '7'. Batman can be done better on screen imho (for example his detective skills can be improved as can his fighting skills in costume).

If I were to give my ideal for Spider-Man a perfect 10 then Raimi achieved a '6' (I thought his spider-man persona was all wrong) and Webb has acheived a '8'.

[Matt Mortem]

Originally Posted by spider-neil

For another unpopular opinion I have an idea of what I think Batman should be (from my reading of the comics) if I were to give my ideal for Batman a perfect 10 then Nolan has only acheived a '7'. Batman can be done better on screen imho (for example his detective skills can be improved as can his fighting skills in costume).

I agree 100%

[PSYLENTGuardian]

I liked how Val Kilmer still managed to radiate badass in spite of having nipples on his Batsuit. I really want to watch Batman Forever again because I never really formed a definite opinion about it.

[spider-neil]

I really like what Nolan has done with Batman but I really want to see Batman solve crime like a true detective, that's why I was disappointed Riddler wasn't the villian for TDKR. I wanted to see a 'Se7en' type movie with clues and Batman solving those clues.

As for Batman fighting style I want a movie where the camera is pulled back so you can see what the **** is going on and I want to see the foremost martial artist on the planet taken down criminals with pure skill rather than elbows to the face.

Part of me will be sad when Nolan is gone and part of me (maybe a small part admitedly) is saying good riddence.

[returntovoid]

Originally Posted by I Am Jack's...

I absolutely hate Black Swan. Can't stand watching it.

Hated it, I dislike the work of Darren Aronofsky.