Batman: Arkham City - - - - - - Part 15

[ProjectPat2280]

Originally Posted by Drz

Oh it's the Robin argument all over again.

- Before Game gets released
- This character is awful and i know Rocksteady knows it too, suck it comic people.
- After Game is released
- This is the best literation of the characters alongside Christopher Nolan's one, the comic version still sucks, but thank god for Nolan and Rocksteady.

I bet 10 bucks on this Pat. You've become predictable about this.

LOL.

Yea i can admit, they made me a Robin fan(well inside the Arkham-verse anyway), but he wasn't front and center. We saw him for what? One scene. The only way to do any story elements with the guy was to spend 10 dollars to get a piece of DLC.

The only way i wouldn't mind the JLA showing up, is if they have the same role as Robin from City. Pop up for a scene, have a bit of dialog, then leave. That ill be fine with, but then there is still the issue of this being a damn prequel.

[ProjectPat2280]

Originally Posted by sethypants

Isn't it just how Batman forms the team with Justice League? I don't think the point of the story is to tell a prequel. But its just to make a game with the Justice League.

We dont know yet, but thats another problem. Like i said, this reeks of publisher intervention. No way Rocksteady had this planned out. WB is pushing this on them.

[jerkhero]

I don't mind JL if they're done well and actually add something instead of being marketing for the movie (which doesn't sound like something Rocksteady would do), but a prequel? No, i wanna see what happen after Arkham City.

[craigdbfan]

The entire part about this being a mandate from the big wigs doesn't sit well with me. Adding Robin was a natural progression for a Batman game. This on the other hand seems a bit more forced if you will.

[Drz]

Originally Posted by ProjectPat2280

LOL.

Yea i can admit, they made me a Robin fan(well inside the Arkham-verse anyway), but he wasn't front and center. We saw him for what? One scene. The only way to do any story elements with the guy was to spend 10 dollars to get a piece of DLC.

The only way i wouldn't mind the JLA showing up, is if they have the same role as Robin from City. Pop up for a scene, have a bit of dialog, then leave. That ill be fine with, but then there is still the issue of this being a damn prequel.

Oh, so now you only liked Robin because it was Arkham-verse and he had a single scene in the story mode.

Sure Pat, convince yourself. I'm still willing that 10 bucks bet you'll just love their take on whatever character they throw at you, and you keep your stance how the comic version is lamer than Nolan/Rocksteady.

Just wait for the day when Sony releases the Ultimate Spider-Man movie starring Miles Morales. Brian Bendis better eat his heart out, because ProjectPat is gonna love Sony's Miles exclusively!

[ProjectPat2280]

Originally Posted by Drz

Oh, so now you only liked Robin because it was Arkham-verse and he had a single scene in the story mode.

Sure Pat, convince yourself. I'm still willing that 10 bucks bet you'll just love their take on whatever character they throw at you, and you keep your stance how the comic version is lamer than Nolan/Rocksteady.

Just wait for the day when Sony releases the Ultimate Spider-Man movie starring Miles Morales. Brian Bendis better eat his heart out, because ProjectPat is gonna love Sony's Miles exclusively!

Haha, yea i only care about his Arkham City interpretation, even downloaded some of the digital arkham books he appeared in to my iPad.

But I'm sure i will enjoy their take on these characters. Rocksteady tends to know how to top the originals. Doesnt mean i want this to be another Lego Batman 2 though.

Ugh, dont even get me started on Miles Morales.

[Drz]

It's irrelevantg what you want, you'll still get everything by Rocksteady, even a 6/10-rated The Dark Knight Rises tie-in video game that they rushed, if one existed.

Oh Pat! Just wait for Sony's next reboot! You're gonna love Miles Morales and tweet Bendis how bad he was with killing your favorite character while citing how much you liked the movie.

[ProjectPat2280]

Originally Posted by Drz

It's irrelevantg what you want, you'll still get everything by Rocksteady, even a 6/10-rated The Dark Knight Rises tie-in video game that they rushed, if one existed.

Oh Pat! Just wait for Sony's next reboot! You're gonna love Miles Morales and tweet Bendis how bad he was with killing your favorite character while citing how much you liked the movie.

Rocksteady isn't beyond failing. WB forcing them to basically do a JLA game might just be that first failure.

As long as the movie doesnt feature a black kid(or mexican, or greek or whatever) becoming the new spider-man just so they can say 'hey look, Spidey is now a minority, buy our comic!!!!', then sure ill tweet Bendis saying i liked it. Oh and i know that sounds racist, but its not, i swear.

[Drz]

How do you know Sefton Hill and others didn't want to make a JL game? Why is it forced? Why is this the game that might fail, and not Arkham City because *gasp* they had an overblown amount of villains and marketed Hugo Strange as something bigger than he truly was.

PS. Yeah, i'm saying Arkham City's story is extremely disappointing, in comparison with Arkham Asylum which i preferred.

[Balthus Dire]

I dunno how I feel about this new announcement. One of the things I love about Rocksteady's Batman is that it kind of seems to exist in its own darker, grittier pocket universe. Throwing Superman and other crap into that just doesn't seem right to me, kinda like if The Flash showed up in The Dark Knight Rises. Just weird.

I think I'd be a bit less cautious and more excited if it wasn't supposed to be a Batman-centric prequel but rather a "new" standalone JLA game.

[Cory]

This is all sorts of no for me. Do arkham 3. then do your 50's crap. I very much looked forward to going through gotham city.

[ProjectPat2280]

Originally Posted by Drz

How do you know Sefton Hill and others didn't want to make a JL game? Why is it forced? Why is this the game that might fail, and not Arkham City because *gasp* they had an overblown amount of villains and marketed Hugo Strange as something bigger than he truly was.

PS. Yeah, i'm saying Arkham City's story is extremely disappointing, in comparison with Arkham Asylum which i preferred.

It just seems like odd timing. WB fast tracks a JLA movie, now all of a sudden we are getting a JLA based title from a team that has made two well received BATMAN games. Its also odd because RS has claimed they'd never want to make a Superman game. Now they're doing a game where he'd have a large presence? Only hope is that the JLA are just there in the background and dont play a large role.

And Arkham City wouldn't be the game that would fail, uh, because it didn't.

[ProjectPat2280]

Originally Posted by Balthus Dire

I think I'd be a bit less cautious and more excited if it wasn't supposed to be a Batman-centric prequel but rather a "new" standalone JLA game.

Id have no problem with that. Id love to fly around as Supes. Still dying to get a good game based off that character, but dont care for that in a game thats supposed to center around the dark knight.

[Drz]

They never used the word "not want" when they we're asked about a Superman game. Don't put words in the mouth of the company. Arkham City's story was pretty bland, and it had too much world building than actual meat inside it for me. It's really just the ending thats most disappointing. Batman acting like he just lost his girlfriend, when did Batman become Edward Cullen?

[ProjectPat2280]

Originally Posted by Drz

They never used the word "not want" when they we're asked about a Superman game. Don't put words in the mouth of the company. Arkham City's story was pretty bland, and it had too much world building than actual meat inside it for me. It's really just the ending thats most disappointing. Batman acting like he just lost his girlfriend, when did Batman become Edward Cullen?

Haha, yea they didn't say that. They just stated why he'd be so bad for a video game and why a character like Batman works so well. But you're right, they did not say "not want".

I also dont disagree with you about the end of Arkham City. Its irrelevant tho, the rest of the title was brilliant. .

[Two-Face]

I was surprised Batman didn't carry Talia out instead of Joker. Anyway I hope Paul Dini returns to write third game script.

[ProjectPat2280]

Originally Posted by Two-Face

I was surprised Batman didn't carry Talia out instead of Joker. Anyway I hope Paul Dini returns to write third game script.

Wasn't she gone by the time Joker was killed?

[Drz]

Originally Posted by ProjectPat2280

Haha, yea they didn't say that. They just stated why he'd be so bad for a video game and why a character like Batman works so well. But you're right, they did not say "not want".

I like how people like you still think Superman game is hard to make, while being perfectly acceptable with protagonists like Kratos or Dante.

I guess Rocksteady really needs to make this game to finally make you realize something so obvious. See, it's Robin all over again.

[ProjectPat2280]

Originally Posted by Drz

I like how people like you still think Superman game is hard to make, while being perfectly acceptable with protagonists like Kratos or Dante.

I guess Rocksteady really needs to make this game to finally make you realize something so obvious. See, it's Robin all over again.

Yea people like me and other GAME DEVELOPERS.

[Two-Face]

Originally Posted by ProjectPat2280

Wasn't she gone by the time Joker was killed?

I knew Ras was immortal but I didn't think Talia too. Man I need read more comics with Al Ghul family. Yeah she was gone.

[ProjectPat2280]

Originally Posted by Two-Face

I knew Ras was immortal but I didn't think Talia too. Man I need read more comics with Al Ghul family. Yeah she was gone.

I assumed her little hench-women carried her off.

[SpideyVille]

See, I don't necessarily think a Superman game is hard to make. But a really good Superman game that gives you the same kind of experience that Arkham Asylum gave you as Batman is the real challenge. And the main problem is that no one has really tackled it. The last stand alone game was the Superman Returns games. but other than that, he's only appeared in JL games or other crossover games. No one has really tried to do a solo Superman game. It should be about trial and error, but no one has really come up with any trials yet, unless they're working on a movie tie-in for Man of Steel.

[sethypants]

Originally Posted by ProjectPat2280

We dont know yet, but thats another problem. Like i said, this reeks of publisher intervention. No way Rocksteady had this planned out. WB is pushing this on them.

You do know that WB pushes Rocksteady to do every project right? LOL.
Rocksteady doesn't decides on anything, WB tells them their next project and they'll have to say yes.

[Havok83]

Originally Posted by ProjectPat2280

It just seems like odd timing. WB fast tracks a JLA movie, now all of a sudden we are getting a JLA based title from a team that has made two well received BATMAN games. Its also odd because RS has claimed they'd never want to make a Superman game. Now they're doing a game where he'd have a large presence? Only hope is that the JLA are just there in the background and dont play a large role.

And Arkham City wouldn't be the game that would fail, uh, because it didn't.

Its still at least 2 years off. Its not like this game is being rushed. They have more than enough time to put together a complete and well done product. Now if we were just hearing this and the target relase date was spring 2013, then Id be more worried. Even if this is being done bc of the upcoming JLA movie (which Im sure it is), I wouldnt be too worried in what Rocksteady might bring to the table

Originally Posted by Drz

I like how people like you still think Superman game is hard to make, while being perfectly acceptable with protagonists like Kratos or Dante.

I guess Rocksteady really needs to make this game to finally make you realize something so obvious. See, it's Robin all over again.

Huh? I dont get your logic as Superman to Kratos or Dante makes no sense. How does a good Superman game have anything to do with the others?

[sethypants]

Originally Posted by SpideyVille

See, I don't necessarily think a Superman game is hard to make. But a really good Superman game that gives you the same kind of experience that Arkham Asylum gave you as Batman is the real challenge. And the main problem is that no one has really tackled it. The last stand alone game was the Superman Returns games. but other than that, he's only appeared in JL games or other crossover games. No one has really tried to do a solo Superman game. It should be about trial and error, but no one has really come up with any trials yet, unless they're working on a movie tie-in for Man of Steel.

DCUO sure did some great work. You can actually customise your character to play Superman. I had a blast. But yes, it has never been tried, but I can't say that it wont work.