The Avengers 2! The Official News and Speculation Thread

[jaqua99]

Originally Posted by I'm Venom

I can't picture anyone taking over the role after Robert Downey Jr. They already showed how much they want him when they increased his salary from $500,000 to $15 million for Iron Man 2.

Exactly why I think it should not be an ongoing franchise

[jaqua99]

Originally Posted by cherokeesam

I'm still willing to bet that Ant-Man will be a third Marvel film slated for 2014; Feige has even hinted at it. But yeah, the lack of at least an "Avengers 2" logo at the SDCC panel shows that there's probably more films/characters associated with Phase II coming in 2015.

I have no doubt whatsoever that either a: 2015 will feature Avengers AND at least one more film; or b: there'll be at least two more films in 2015, and Avengers 2 will release in 2016 instead.

I agree about antman.

And remember guys, I said it months ago,

3 movies for 2014, Guardians, Cap 2 and antman :P


im a psychic, all my predictions have come true hahahaha

[spideymouse]

Originally Posted by cherokeesam

Mine's close to that. Based on the rumormill, I could easily see it as:

2013: Iron Man 3/Thor 2
2014: Captain America 2/ Guardians of the Galaxy/ Ant-Man
2015: TIH 2/ Black Panther
2016: Dr. Strange/ Avengers 2

Holy crap, this would be crazy. Eight movies in Phase II before Avengers 2? Hmm...

So I did some digging about what movies actually have been mentioned by Feige, and he has mentioned pretty much everything, so there's no telling what the plan is. But I found this this article from 2010:

There’s no direct quote in the piece, but Ad Age say that Gitter alluded to another big Marvel plan, this one to come to a head in 2017. Pressed for details, her refused to yield, but the date’s the thing.

That amount of time would definitely provide enough time and movies to set up a mega-crossover event like Infinity Gauntlet, but this is an old article and there isn't even a direct quote. Still, in light of how Phase II is shaping up so far, I thought it was interesting. Phase I was 2008-2012. It's not so much of a stretch to imagine Phase II being 2013-2017. It's just definitely not what anyone on these boards is imagining or wants to happen.

[Olan]

Whehen I saw Falcon in the lineup for the New AVENGERS cartoon I had a feeling he might be added to the movie world. As someone that is not as dialed in with the comic world as many here can someone tell me about the character and how you think he will fit into the movie universe? I have vague memories of seeing him in comics but don't kno much about his character.

[Angamb]

Id love to see a sequel with current avengers more Ant-man, Wasp and Black Panther, like the animated series, but I dont think its a good idea to introduce three new members on Avengers 2.

I think they should go step by step. Not releasing the sequel with 7 avengers suddenly.

It would be a great watch, definetly, but they should develop the relationship between past and new avengers slowly, giving it some time to shine. At the same time than the relationship between current characters.

but I have the feeling that Marvel will go even bigger with the sequel, so I wont be surprised if we get a really big team on the sequel.

so lets see what happens.....

[cherokeesam]

Originally Posted by Olan

Whehen I saw Falcon in the lineup for the New AVENGERS cartoon I had a feeling he might be added to the movie world. As someone that is not as dialed in with the comic world as many here can someone tell me about the character and how you think he will fit into the movie universe? I have vague memories of seeing him in comics but don't kno much about his character.

Wikipedia is always the first place to get the rundown on characters; but in general, Falcon is Captain America's sidekick, who hates being called a sidekick. He was so important, in fact, that for pretty much the entirety of the 1970s, Cap's actual comic book title was "Captain America and The Falcon." He joined the Avengers, too, and has always been a "benchwarmer" Avenger --- he saw more action when he joined West Coast Avengers. Lately, Marvel animated has been playing him up --- he's the "token black" of sorts on the Super Hero Squad version of the Avengers, and the new version of Avengers (Avengers Assemble) will feature him, too. So I'd look for him to get his membership card for the Avengers in TA2.

[catintheengine]

Did I miss something where they announced that The Falcon would be making an appearance?

Personally, I just feel like there is a bit of risk that the Avengers movies are going to end up with too large a cast. We've all seen it happen with other franchises.

I just don't know that Falcon would be my first choice as an addition. I think there are other characters that warrant an appearance before him. That's just me though.

Assuming that any additions to the cast get their own films, I think Ant-Man and Black Panther are more likely to carry their own in a solo movie.

[Lord]

Originally Posted by Angamb

Id love to see a sequel with current avengers more Ant-man, Wasp and Black Panther, like the animated series, but I dont think its a good idea to introduce three new members on Avengers 2.

I think they should go step by step. Not releasing the sequel with 7 avengers suddenly.

It would be a great watch, definetly, but they should develop the relationship between past and new avengers slowly, giving it some time to shine. At the same time than the relationship between current characters.

but I have the feeling that Marvel will go even bigger with the sequel, so I wont be surprised if we get a really big team on the sequel.

so lets see what happens.....

Joss Whedon said he wanted the next Avengers to be smaller in scale and more personal, i want them to in least add Ant-Man and possibly the wasp.

I heard there was some kind of time traveling device that was rumored to appear in Ant-Man so it's possible that he time travels to present day and in Avengers 2 discovers that Ultron, one of his creations has developed a mind of his oun during all those years and is now going to cause problems.

[catintheengine]

Hmm. Not sure how I feel about that. Time-travel tends to be pretty messy plot-wise.

I think it's fairly safe to assume that if we get Ant-Man we will get Wasp. They seem like kind of a package deal.

[spideymouse]

Originally Posted by catintheengine

Hmm. Not sure how I feel about that. Time-travel tends to be pretty messy plot-wise.

Instead of time travel, could they maybe do a Cap/Tron Legacy-type thing and have Pym trapped in the Microverse until present-day? I don't know how they could explain away the non-aging, but it's just an idea.

[catintheengine]

They could, but at the same time, doesn't that take something away from the Cap "fish out of water" sub-plot?

[I'm Venom]

Personally, I’d prefer if they didn’t add anybody. It’s crowded for a movie as it is…there’s no need to make everyone Avengers. You don’t want the focus to spread too thin, and it’s too early in the team’s existence.

[spideymouse]

Originally Posted by catintheengine

They could, but at the same time, doesn't that take something away from the Cap "fish out of water" sub-plot?

Yeah, I'm just working with the premise that they're forcing Pym into the 60s for some reason. I don't know, maybe Wright's quote was that it would be like a 60s spy movie, but that doesn't mean it has to take place in the 1960s. Does anyone have the exact quote?

[Lord]

Originally Posted by I'm Venom

Personally, I’d prefer if they didn’t add anybody. It’s crowded for a movie as it is…there’s no need to make everyone Avengers. You don’t want the focus to spread too thin, and it’s too early in the team’s existence.

Let them evolve, and it's not as if adding 1 or 2 new members is going to make the other characters less interesting

[spideymouse]

Originally Posted by Lord

Let them evolve, and it's not as if adding 1 or 2 new members is going to make the other characters less interesting

Feige has said that we can absolutely expect a rotating roster in Avengers sequels. If you add two characters, perhaps you can remove one or two as well. If Hawkeye and Black Widow are involved in Cap 2, you might be able to write them out of Avengers 2.

[marcvader]

Originally Posted by spideymouse

Feige has said that we can absolutely expect a rotating roster in Avengers sequels. If you add two characters, perhaps you can remove one or two as well. If Hawkeye and Black Widow are involved in Cap 2, you might be able to write them out of Avengers 2.

I'm good with this solution. They have a history of going on missions together so I don't see a problem with them being gone for an installment of Avengers to return possibly in 3 or just appear in different solos like Cap 2.

[Lord]

Originally Posted by spideymouse

Feige has said that we can absolutely expect a rotating roster in Avengers sequels. If you add two characters, perhaps you can remove one or two as well. If Hawkeye and Black Widow are involved in Cap 2, you might be able to write them out of Avengers 2.

They're probably not involved in Cap 2, Falcon is, mey they can be replaced, but if Joss Whedon makes it i don't think that's as probable considering he likes to use kick ass women. I think Falcon may be a safe bet for Avengers 2, if he indeed appears in Cap 2.

Hulk could easily leave considering that in the comics not long after the formation of the team he left, he can go on trying to live his life.

[spideymouse]

Originally Posted by Lord

They're probably not involved in Cap 2, Falcon is, mey they can be replaced, but if Joss Whedon makes it i don't think that's as probable considering he likes to use kick ass women. I think Falcon may be a safe bet for Avengers 2, if he indeed appears in Cap 2.

People thought War Machine would be a safe bet for Avengers...

Originally Posted by Lord

Hulk could easily leave considering that in the comics not long after the formation of the team he left, he can go on trying to live his life.

I'd love to see Hulk leave--but only because he gets somehow jettisoned off to a certain planet called Sakaar during/after Avengers 2!

[Lord]

Originally Posted by spideymouse

I'd love to see Hulk leave--but only because he gets somehow jettisoned off to a certain planet called Sakaar during/after Avengers 2!

Joss Whedon is interested in helping develop more movies with him, but why would they drop him in sakaar? He isn't a threat anymore, he has the hulk under control

[I'm Venom]

Originally Posted by Lord

Joss Whedon is interested in helping develop more movies with him, but why would they drop him in sakaar? He isn't a threat anymore, he has the hulk under control

I’ve heard people say that he should be involved with the Avengers sequel, which I agree with, but at this point, I’d be interested to see a Hulk film directed by him.

[Lord]

Originally Posted by I'm Venom

I’ve heard people say that he should be involved with the Avengers sequel, which I agree with, but at this point, I’d be interested to see a Hulk film directed by him.

He can simply write and produce the Hulk sequel, that's kind of what i understood of him directing Avengers 2 and helping make another Hulk movie

[spideymouse]

Originally Posted by Lord

Joss Whedon is interested in helping develop more movies with him, but why would they drop him in sakaar? He isn't a threat anymore, he has the hulk under control

Yeah, I wasn't thinking about that. I was just thinking how cool a Planet Hulk live-action movie would be.

Do you have a link regarding Whedon's interest in developing a Hulk movie?

[Lord]

I remember a poster mentioning some times but i can't find the link right now.

[I'm Venom]

Have The Leader as the villian and perhaps Hawkeye as a character (those two have a camaraderie in the animated show).

[jaqua99]

Originally Posted by spideymouse

Feige has said that we can absolutely expect a rotating roster in Avengers sequels. If you add two characters, perhaps you can remove one or two as well. If Hawkeye and Black Widow are involved in Cap 2, you might be able to write them out of Avengers 2.

Originally Posted by marcvader

I'm good with this solution. They have a history of going on missions together so I don't see a problem with them being gone for an installment of Avengers to return possibly in 3 or just appear in different solos like Cap 2.

Yeah. Although to me it seems like Thor, Cap, and Ironman are going to be definite stays. Hulk too probably. Because it seems like the avengers may be the only movie series we see him in for a while

Originally Posted by I'm Venom

Have The Leader as the villian and perhaps Hawkeye as a character (those two have a camaraderie in the animated show).

This could work thoguh