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Captain America |
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9 | 5.56% |
Iron Man |
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17 | 10.49% |
Thor |
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7 | 4.32% |
Hulk |
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5 | 3.09% |
Black Widow |
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19 | 11.73% |
Hawkeye |
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24 | 14.81% |
Nick Fury |
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20 | 12.35% |
Maria Hill |
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26 | 16.05% |
A new Avenger (please specify) |
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3 | 1.85% |
A new SHIELD agent (please specify) |
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1 | 0.62% |
Other (please specify) |
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6 | 3.70% |
No one! |
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25 | 15.43% |
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One of the reasons that the Coulson death worked so well (and really HAD to happen) was because the audience had come to know him so well. I can't currently think of anyone I know that didn't like that character.
His death in The Avengers was not just an emotional turning point for the characters, but for the audience as well. I just don't think we've built that kind of attachment to Hawkeye yet. The same can be said for Maria Hill. I would agree with what I saw someone else on here state: Iron Man is actually a logical choice. However, I think that if they were to do that, it would have to come in The Avengers 3 (assuming that we get three movies). Iron Man is, from my understanding, by far the fan-favorite character among general audiences (by 'general audiences' I mean people who have little to no knowledge of these characters outside of the films). I think that killing him off in the second movie would alienate a lot of movie-goers before the third. |
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No, Hulk is BY FAR the fan favorite character among the general audience.
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Anyway in all seriousness if Falcon gets introduced as it's been rumored Fury (who lets face it, is the only black person in the Marvel Cinematic Universe) is no longer safe by default. Black Widow (being the only woman) is still safe, Hulk (being indestructible and content with death) is probably safe, Captain America (having the last name America is safe), Iron Man (being the cash cow) is safe, Thor is up for the chopping block, Hawkeye we don't know well but they could easily remedy that. |
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Why is Thor up for the chopping block, he's Marvel Studios' second biggest cash cow behind Iron Man.
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Because most of is know its not permanent. It could be impactful yet only temporary like it was for Gandalf. It would only be possibly for a portion of a film and he can be brought back immediately in the next one. That doesn't work as well for a regular hero because it seems cheap. Gods are seen somewhat immortal so its doable. No one wants a permanent death.
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What I would like to see is Nick Fury getting killed, only to be revealed later that it was an LMD. And Fury could then go on some secretive special ops mission with a small nucleus of S.H.I.E.L.D. agents. Or something. |
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I actually kind of dig that idea about the LMD. If they were to ever go forward with the S.H.I.E.L.D movie, it would work as a nice lead-in.
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Both characters played pretty important roles in the film.
Black Widow was the one who was able to figure out what Loki's end-game was. Not only that, but she was the one who shut down the portal. Yes, anyone could have done that, but she was the one who was able to at that time. Hawkeye basically directed traffic and was able to inform the other Avengers where they were needed for most of the fight. Here is a guy who, other than being extremely skilled at what he does, has no special ability or power and he held his own - in an exposed position nonetheless - against an overwhelming enemy force. I'm not saying that those characters couldn't be killed off down the road, but to write them off as unimportant is just silly. Speaking from a writer's point-of-view, they are kind of necessary: They humanize the story in subtle ways. They are soldiers, yes, but they are in-fact WAY out of their league. Yet they still hold their own. That's pretty impressive in my book. |
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I voted for Black Widow to make room for other female characters like Ms. Marvel, Spider-Woman and She-Hulk.
Plus a death scene of Black Widow would probably be very emotional and epic and I want to witness that!
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Out of those three Ms. Marvel is the only one I think there is any chance of us seeing.
Marvel won't do Spider-Woman since Sony owns the rights to Spider-Man and they will want to avoid any confusion among the general audiences. She-Hulk is just redundant at this point. We've finally got a great representation of Hulk on-screen, and there's just not really a need for her. However, if they ever do another Hulk solo movie, I wouldn't object to the introduction of Jennifer Walters. Ms. Marvel, however, could be a strong addition to the cast of characters for the third Avengers though. |
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i get where you are coming from, but my question is if you have one human shield agent on the team(bwidow) why in the world do yiou need two. to talk about how out of there element they are, which they did by the way. its just what they did just did not do anything for me. i will admit i have never thought much of bowmen in comics(green arrow etc) its just ridiculous to me if you look at it with a shred of realism, its all just to much make believe that a guy who shoots arrows should be on a team with the likes of a hulk or a superman. and the fact it is done with the pov of hey look how cool the normal guy is fighting with these superheroes is just kinda stupid to me. if i was a normal person in this world i would ask hey why is hawkeye on this team. i guess i am a guy who needs more realism.
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The fact that there is a master marksman is what broke your suspension of disbelief with The Avengers? It wasn't the guy who was in animated suspension for over a half-century, or the billionaire playboy in a suit of armor, or the being from another dimension who could summon lightning, or even the giant green monster that hit with the force of a freight train...
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I've heard of suspended animation, but what's animated suspension? =P I'm picturing some dude with his limbs all tangled up in strings hanging from the ceiling, wildly and animatedly flailing all over the place to try and get free hehe. Last edited by spideymouse; 07-17-2012 at 12:58 PM. |
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Sorry, a typo on my part.
Personally I really liked both Widow and Hawkeye and how they were handled. I actually look forward to seeing more of both of them. I may be in the minority, but I still think it would be pretty cool to see a S.H.I.E.L.D. spin-off movie. As far as Black Widow being able to control the Chitauri guy: I just sort of assumed it was pressure-point manipulation. It didn't seem like she had complete control. |
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The only beef I had with Hawkeye was that he got shortchanged character development-wise. I actually thought BW was using her Widow's Bite in some capacity to control the dude. |
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Yeah, I won't argue that Hawkeye got a bit short-changed, but I foresee that being rectified in future films.
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The more I think about it, the more it sounds like some of you guys are giving Hawkeye the Professor X treatment, where he gets knocked out/put under a spell/killed for half of the movie. I guess they did that to Cyclops in X2 and X3 as well. So much disrespect.
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I'm with you on this spideymouse - I don't see a whole lot of love for Hawkeye on these boards.
It's a shame considering how many people were psyched to see Hawkeye's cameo in Thor. The LAST thing I think most of us want is to see the Avengers franchise go the way of X3. I'm still mad about the treatment Professor Xavier and Cyclops got in that movie. |
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Hawkeye was basically calling the shots after the fight started. He was letting everyone know where they were needed. Without Hawkeye calling the shots, a lot more civilians would have died. And any SHIELD agent could have hit Loki from that far away? I doubt it. Hawkeye is called that for a reason - he can hit shots from far away with pinpoint accuracy. A sniper would have missed because Loki was moving too fast and a regular gun wouldn't have the distance not accuracy needed to pull off that type of shot. And sure anyone could have gone up there and shut the portal, but who? Thor and Hulk wouldn't have any idea what to do, IMO. Captain America would have taken a lot longer to get up there. Iron Man was dealing with a nuke and Hawkeye just jumped off a building to stay alive (I hope for a sequel they add in the awesome leg quiver so he has more arrows). Black Widow was the only one who could get up there as fast as she did and figure out the problem. |
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Sounds good to me. Let's all go. I'll get the popcorn.
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Hahaha, I'm in. I have a feeling when I get the bluray, I won't be leaving my house for at least 3 days.
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