The Avengers Box-Office Prediction Thread - Part 7 - Page 3

Octavias · 07-22-2012, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Danalys

average 3D extra charge is 30% but since only half of avengers tickets sold were for the 3D it's 15% of it's boxoffice. anyway it's impossible; but for not having enough midnight screenings the avengers did nearly as well as a film can do in it's first weekend. significantly more tickets can't be sold.

Far less than half of the tix were for 3d. there were more 2d theaters showings plus the avengers lost its 3d showings faster than its 2d showings. Like I have said before the 3d plus inflation (which isnt a good calculation for TDK since the last major ticket increase happened before it was out) both probably added up to about the 17% that TA was above TDK. I dont think there are significant differences between tickets sold. I think the same audiance was the base for both... even if niether side of the fanboys will admit that...

Octavias · 07-22-2012, 04:24 PM

Also I planned on seeing TDKR this weekend, but instead will see it on a weekday this week.... so i am proof that some people did stay away for one reason or another...

warriorking · 07-22-2012, 05:13 PM

I went Friday morning at 11:30am never gave it a second thought.
Got a good laugh out of Time magazine when it ran an article on TDKR saying although the Avengers made 207 million in its OW it was just a kids movie compared to the TDKR .....

warriorking · 07-22-2012, 05:29 PM

Looks like the finale OW numbers are going to be around 165 Million....About where it was predicted before the Hype began....

Juicy J · 07-22-2012, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by warriorking

I went Friday morning at 11:30am never gave it a second thought.
Got a good laugh out of Time magazine when it ran an article on TDKR saying although the Avengers made 207 million in its OW it was just a kids movie compared to the TDKR .....

"Just a kids movie"? Haha wow. Some people are so stupid.

samsnee · 07-22-2012, 06:22 PM

That just pisses me off to no end. Avengers isn't The Godfather but it isn't like it didn't entertain adults just as well as kids.

eddy · 07-22-2012, 06:28 PM

I bet movies like BTTF or Star Wars or Indy were called 'kids films' or light fluff when they were released. Time will tell the tale. Avengers is amazingly rewatchable and I'm sure in 20 years it will be looked back on very fondly.

Weadazoid · 07-22-2012, 06:52 PM

The Avengers is an awsome movie, it makes you a fan out of all the characters. Look I loved Thor, but I didn't love Captain America, until the Avengers. Just because everything in Cap, was really just a huge neccesity to make Cap come to life in the Avengers. It made me appreciate the character so much more.

He is a boyscout but good lord doesn't he always just embrace everything, he never backs down, He always takes the high road, he is the example of all of Humanities good will.

any word if Ruffalow is getting his own Hulk Movie.

Stark Bauer · 07-22-2012, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by samsnee

That just pisses me off to no end. Avengers isn't The Godfather but it isn't like it didn't entertain adults just as well as kids.

No TA isnt Godfather. TDK is the Godfather of CBM. TA is more like the original Star Wars (episode IV A New Hope) not episode 1-3.

DyeLorean · 07-22-2012, 07:54 PM

I don't think is fair to compare movies just because they're based in comic books. Honestly, it doesn't add anything, to any discussion. I'm not talking about anyone specifically here, but in general.

It's interesting to discuss box office performance and that stuff, but compare the quality of the movies with each other, it really isn't fair. That's what I feel, at least.
And when critics do that, it's even worse.

JerseyJoker · 07-22-2012, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Stark Bauer

No TA isnt Godfather. TDK is the Godfather of CBM. TA is more like the original Star Wars (episode IV A New Hope) not episode 1-3.

The Godfather is one of the most important film of American cinema.

The Dark Knight isn't. Its just a really great comic book film. It doesn't change the face of film making.

**danoyse** · 07-22-2012, 10:44 PM

And it's perfectly acceptable to be a fan of both films.

Let's keep the TDKR vs. Avengers comments to a minimum, please.

**danoyse** · 07-22-2012, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by warriorking

Also keep in mind all the news channels are talking about nothing but TDKR which includes snipets of the film, In no way has Warner lost out on free advertising for the movie....To say they lost 5 to 10 million due to pulling the TV spots or the shooting is wishful thinking.
Anyone who was going to the TDKR has gone or will be going regardless.
As for the Wall street article I take that with a grain of salt, most of their numbers are pulled out of thin air or their butt...As for the TA word of mouth was the major factor in its huge success and explosion during its opening weekend...not 30sec TV spots...

And you're pulling most of your remarks out of delusional fanboy land, and I don't advise you to continue this pattern.

We don't like the Marvel vs. DC nonsense here at any time, and considering the events of this weekend, it's particularly inappropriate to pat your movie on the back for having a better opening weekend.

buttercup · 07-22-2012, 11:51 PM

Just dropping a note to say: I think TA's box office OW record is safe for the year because even though The Hobbit is coming out, it's a December release. They never have gigantic OWs; Return of the King did $77M first weekend, then had a soft 30% drop, and finished with $377M domestic (which was 9 years ago, no 3D, really darn impressive). Same with Avatar: modest OW and then a looooong run at being #1 at the box office.

For films opening in December, longevity matters more than gigantic OW. I would say that the OW record is pretty safe for now... at least until TA2 comes out.

LegendAssemble · 07-23-2012, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Stark Bauer

No TA isnt Godfather. TDK is the Godfather of CBM. TA is more like the original Star Wars (episode IV A New Hope) not episode 1-3.

No it's not, it didn't do anything to change the Genre or the industry, aside from maybe more Hanz Zimmer style scores. Regardless, Iron Man was a film very similarly grounded deeply in reality and was a different genre movie first and a superhero films second, and it came out before the dark knight. It was a good movie don't get me wrong, but it was no Star Wars or the Godfather.

thalidomide · 07-23-2012, 12:45 AM

Why are we talking about TDKR here?

warriorking · 07-23-2012, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by danoyse

And you're pulling most of your remarks out of delusional fanboy land, and I don't advise you to continue this pattern.

We don't like the Marvel vs. DC nonsense here at any time, and considering the events of this weekend, it's particularly inappropriate to pat your movie on the back for having a better opening weekend.

Sorry If you think I am a delusional fanboy, I was there on opening day for TDKR and enjoyed it ..so that shoots down the delusional fanboy comment, I was merely stating the final BO numbers compared to the Hype numbers thrown about...I also said it was a great summer for us as well as Marvel and DC.....

thalidomide · 07-23-2012, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by warriorking

Sorry If you think I am a delusional fanboy, I was there on opening day for TDKR and enjoyed it ..so that shoots down the delusional fanboy comment, I was merely stating the final BO numbers compared to the Hype numbers thrown about...I also said it was a great summer for us as well as Marvel and DC.....

This is the Avengers b.o. prediction thread go to TDKR forums if you want to talk about the TDKR's earnings.

I'm not being rude BTW.

warriorking · 07-23-2012, 08:36 AM

Quite all right no offence taken....

**danoyse** · 07-23-2012, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by warriorking

Sorry If you think I am a delusional fanboy, I was there on opening day for TDKR and enjoyed it ..so that shoots down the delusional fanboy comment, I was merely stating the final BO numbers compared to the Hype numbers thrown about...I also said it was a great summer for us as well as Marvel and DC.....

And you're insisting that the shooting had nothing to do with the box office numbers, and you brought up a Time magazine article for no good reason other than to take a swipe at those numbers vs. The Avengers.

It's clear what you're doing, and you need to knock it off.

Vartha · 07-23-2012, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by thalidomide

Why are we talking about TDKR here?

Probably because it's too busy in the TDKR threads. lol
I just want to see how long Avengers stays in theaters. I'm going again this Friday then to ASM.

Vartha · 07-23-2012, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Octavias

Also I planned on seeing TDKR this weekend, but instead will see it on a weekday this week.... so i am proof that some people did stay away for one reason or another...

I was working and until friday broke. I'll wait for my daughters review on it before seeing it.

Tony Stark · 07-23-2012, 10:38 AM

I kinda feel bad for TDKR. If the 161M number is accurate clearly the film was never going to break records, but I think 185M range is not unreasonable to think.

Also looking, every film was just hammered this weekend. 10M for TASM!!! I doubt it gets to 250M at this point, based on that.

KangConquers · 07-23-2012, 11:13 AM

What's amusing is the $185 projected would've put it right there with Avengers for tickets sold...which leads me to believe, despite all the feuding, the exact same 15-20 million people are seeing both films.

Tony Stark · 07-23-2012, 11:37 AM

Yeah I agree, there's a ton of overlap between both films. Which is why I was very skeptical about the 200-215M predictions people were making. Where would that audience come from? I think you reach a saturation point on comic book films, and I think we've reached it. Heck attendance figures from Spider-man3 aren't that far off TDK and Avengers either.

Attendance will be lower for this movie, but we all know why.

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07-22-2012, 04:24 PM	#52
Octavias Mad Insomniac Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Well, you know where the pinnicle of perfection is Posts: 2,926	Re: The Avengers Box-Office Prediction Thread - Part 7 Also I planned on seeing TDKR this weekend, but instead will see it on a weekday this week.... so i am proof that some people did stay away for one reason or another... __________________ Isnt it past your bedtime?

07-22-2012, 05:13 PM	#53
warriorking Newbie First Class Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 27	Re: The Avengers Box-Office Prediction Thread - Part 7 I went Friday morning at 11:30am never gave it a second thought. Got a good laugh out of Time magazine when it ran an article on TDKR saying although the Avengers made 207 million in its OW it was just a kids movie compared to the TDKR ..... Last edited by warriorking; 07-22-2012 at 05:19 PM.

07-22-2012, 05:29 PM	#54
warriorking Newbie First Class Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 27	Re: The Avengers Box-Office Prediction Thread - Part 7 Looks like the finale OW numbers are going to be around 165 Million....About where it was predicted before the Hype began....

07-22-2012, 06:22 PM	#56
samsnee Side-Kick Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,648	Re: The Avengers Box-Office Prediction Thread - Part 7 That just pisses me off to no end. Avengers isn't The Godfather but it isn't like it didn't entertain adults just as well as kids.

07-22-2012, 06:28 PM	#57
eddy Side-Kick Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 1,295	Re: The Avengers Box-Office Prediction Thread - Part 7 I bet movies like BTTF or Star Wars or Indy were called 'kids films' or light fluff when they were released. Time will tell the tale. Avengers is amazingly rewatchable and I'm sure in 20 years it will be looked back on very fondly. __________________ " I want to make the kind of movie that inspires people to say, ‘There should be more movies with Super Heroes in them.’” -Joss Whedon AVENGERS ASSEMBLE.

07-22-2012, 06:52 PM	#58
Weadazoid Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Illadel Posts: 4,030	Re: The Avengers Box-Office Prediction Thread - Part 7 The Avengers is an awsome movie, it makes you a fan out of all the characters. Look I loved Thor, but I didn't love Captain America, until the Avengers. Just because everything in Cap, was really just a huge neccesity to make Cap come to life in the Avengers. It made me appreciate the character so much more. He is a boyscout but good lord doesn't he always just embrace everything, he never backs down, He always takes the high road, he is the example of all of Humanities good will. any word if Ruffalow is getting his own Hulk Movie. __________________ 100 chimps working in unison to create the next great American Novel... It was the best of times it..... it was the blurst of times??? You have to love Mr. Burns.

07-22-2012, 07:54 PM	#60
DyeLorean Cinemaphonic Quadrovision Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,576	Re: The Avengers Box-Office Prediction Thread - Part 7 I don't think is fair to compare movies just because they're based in comic books. Honestly, it doesn't add anything, to any discussion. I'm not talking about anyone specifically here, but in general. It's interesting to discuss box office performance and that stuff, but compare the quality of the movies with each other, it really isn't fair. That's what I feel, at least. And when critics do that, it's even worse.

07-22-2012, 10:44 PM	#62
danoyse Snikt. Stab. Repeat. SHH! Administrator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: A world I long to see. Posts: 17,508	Re: The Avengers Box-Office Prediction Thread - Part 7 And it's perfectly acceptable to be a fan of both films. Let's keep the TDKR vs. Avengers comments to a minimum, please. __________________ *"And remember, the truth that once was spoken, to love another person is to see the face of God."*

07-22-2012, 11:51 PM	#64
buttercup Newbie First Class Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 16	Re: The Avengers Box-Office Prediction Thread - Part 7 Just dropping a note to say: I think TA's box office OW record is safe for the year because even though The Hobbit is coming out, it's a December release. They never have gigantic OWs; Return of the King did $77M first weekend, then had a soft 30% drop, and finished with $377M domestic (which was 9 years ago, no 3D, really darn impressive). Same with Avatar: modest OW and then a looooong run at being #1 at the box office. For films opening in December, longevity matters more than gigantic OW. I would say that the OW record is pretty safe for now... at least until TA2 comes out.

07-23-2012, 12:45 AM	#66
thalidomide The Enemy Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Parts, Unknown Posts: 1,136	Re: The Avengers Box-Office Prediction Thread - Part 7 Why are we talking about TDKR here? __________________ Every damn word I say is a sneak attack!

07-23-2012, 08:36 AM	#69
warriorking Newbie First Class Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 27	Re: The Avengers Box-Office Prediction Thread - Part 7 Quite all right no offence taken....

07-23-2012, 10:38 AM	#73
Tony Stark Armored Avenger! Join Date: May 2002 Location: In a cave with a box of scraps Posts: 6,317	Re: The Avengers Box-Office Prediction Thread - Part 7 I kinda feel bad for TDKR. If the 161M number is accurate clearly the film was never going to break records, but I think 185M range is not unreasonable to think. Also looking, every film was just hammered this weekend. 10M for TASM!!! I doubt it gets to 250M at this point, based on that. __________________ “Some people call me a terrorist. I consider myself a teacher. Lesson number one: Heroes....there is no such thing.” The Mandarin

07-23-2012, 11:13 AM	#74
KangConquers Purple Kang, Purple Kang Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 6,205	Re: The Avengers Box-Office Prediction Thread - Part 7 What's amusing is the $185 projected would've put it right there with Avengers for tickets sold...which leads me to believe, despite all the feuding, the exact same 15-20 million people are seeing both films. __________________ Marvel Slate: 2013: Iron Man 3, The Wolverine, Thor: The Dark World 2014: Captain America: The Winter Soldier, The Amazing Spider-Man 2, X-Men: Days of Future Past, Guardians of the Galaxy, Big Hero 6 2015: Fantastic 4 Reborn, Avengers 2, Ant-Man Your move, DC...

07-23-2012, 11:37 AM	#75
Tony Stark Armored Avenger! Join Date: May 2002 Location: In a cave with a box of scraps Posts: 6,317	Re: The Avengers Box-Office Prediction Thread - Part 7 Yeah I agree, there's a ton of overlap between both films. Which is why I was very skeptical about the 200-215M predictions people were making. Where would that audience come from? I think you reach a saturation point on comic book films, and I think we've reached it. Heck attendance figures from Spider-man3 aren't that far off TDK and Avengers either. Attendance will be lower for this movie, but we all know why. __________________ “Some people call me a terrorist. I consider myself a teacher. Lesson number one: Heroes....there is no such thing.” The Mandarin

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