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Old 07-31-2012, 07:04 PM   #51
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I believe it was Vulture. But from what Russo says, it's hard to determine whether or not she's been approached to return. With filming kicking off in a few days, I'd imagine she'd have more to offer.

And I've always wondered if they were ever gonna explore Gaea being Thor's birth mother.

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Thor's lineage is kind of irrelevant to the overall narrative, to be honest

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Thor's lineage is kind of irrelevant to the overall narrative, to be honest
In my honest opinion, I wouldn’t think it is entirely.

Now granted, I may be new to the Thor universe.lol, but from what I’ve read, there’s potential to be used for Thor’s own journey in the MCU.

I don’t think any real angst will result in the way that it did for Loki when he had discovered his real lineage, but I do think that certain actions may be taken by Thor if he is to learn that he has a different mother altogether, let alone one that is a elder god of Earth.

It could further motivate his desire to move to and be stationed more on Earth rather than staying in Asgard for most of his time, which could eventually create that conflict where the other Asgardians bring up the issue on how he seemingly cares for Earth more than he does of Asgard.

Then, if what I read is true, the character of “The Other” in The Avengers was actually based off of a character in the comics that is linked with the elder gods as well, further cementing a potential deeper link between Thor and Thanos, who is sure to become a Major antagonist for the entire MCU.

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Regarding changes to Thor's costume, I would still like to see what it would look like with armored legs. I'm assuming they probably tried it and the look didn't work, but I'd like to see it to believe it.

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I don't think it was just about looks as I'm probably thinking that it was about function as well and how it would have been more difficult for Chris to be mobile during his action scenes if he had that armor on his legs like the character does in the comics.

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Yeah, you' re probably right. I still really like that look in the comics and would be curious to see how it looks in live action.

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Thor's lineage is kind of irrelevant to the overall narrative, to be honest
That's a pretty close minded way to look at it.

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Not really. Would you rather they move the story forward and set up a Surtur saga or delve back into parental drama?

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Not really. Would you rather they move the story forward and set up a Surtur saga or delve back into parental drama?
The two aren't mutually exclusive. Thor's relationship with his father and his lineage are integral to his character, and any forward motion in his story, even a Surtur saga, will inevitably be touched by that.

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I have no interest what so ever in to being side tracked with more lineage issues in the cinematic universe. Keep the impetus moving forward with novel Thor story ideas.

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His relationship with his father, who is one of the central characters, sure. The fact that his mother is not the woman who raised him, but an ancient entity, not so much.

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On a wholly unrelated note... this is a post from last July:
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I think Thor 2 will take place after Avengers. I don't see it coming before. I actually can see Thor 2 maybe leading into Cap 2 by releasing the Red Skull back to Earth.
Who would like to see something like this as the end-credits scene Thor: The Dark World, since CA:TWS is the next movie after T:TDW? It's odd to me that no one has been discussing the Red Skull's whereabouts in this forum recently.

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He could be anywhere. Not just the nine realms.

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I think it would be seen as kind of corny if both Red Skull and Bucky resurfaced in Cap's life at around the same time. In my mind it was one or the other for Cap 2.

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Honestly, I think Schmidt is dead

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I wouldn't mind seeing Thor 2 lead into Cap 2, but it might be odd having both Bucky and the Red Skull return in the first sequel for Cap.

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I think it would be seen as kind of corny if both Red Skull and Bucky resurfaced in Cap's life at around the same time. In my mind it was one or the other for Cap 2.
Well, wouldn't Bucky technically have been resurfacing every few years or so from WWII to the present? The only reason he's be "resurfacing at this point in Cap's life" is that Cap was asleep until the present, of course.

As for Red Skull, the fact that Thor: The Dark World will be journeying through other parts of the Nine Realms presents a perfect opportunity to address Red Skull's whereabouts, even if it's only via an end-credits scene. If anything, it would be a smoother transition from a Thor movie to a Cap movie than somehow showing a completely unrelated Bucky tease after the credits of T:TDW.

I guess after watching CA:TFA again recently, I'm hoping for Red Skull's return sooner than later. I would really love for them to better characterize him as Cap's rival and archenemy, not as the dude who ran from the SSR every time they showed up.

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I for one don't want Red Skull being anywhere in the nine realms. I want the Universe to feel more vast and not have the MCU just piddling around the nine realms.

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I for one don't want Red Skull being anywhere in the nine realms. I want the Universe to feel more vast and not have the MCU just piddling around the nine realms.
Where should he be, then? If he was transported by the Tesseract, should have ended up on "the other end"?

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But where's the other end?

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"Elsewhere, in the cosmos..."

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Where should he be, then? If he was transported by the Tesseract, should have ended up on "the other end"?
Where do you think "the other end" is?

Here's the math, the way I see it: Loki wound up on Thanos' throne. Thanos tells him to go get the Tesseract, which SHIELD has in their Dark Matter lab.

This is the same Tesseract that Howard Stark recovered from the ocean floor. The same Tesseract that burned a hole through Johann Schmidt, and the bomber, in 1945.

Loki *enters* this world through the Tesseract in the JDM Lab. Ergo: he came from "the other side."

Ergo: "the other side" is Thanos' throne.

Ergo:

....yup. Skully is currently at Thanos' throne.

Chew on THAT awhile.

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Where do you think "the other end" is?

Here's the math, the way I see it: Loki wound up on Thanos' throne. Thanos tells him to go get the Tesseract, which SHIELD has in their Dark Matter lab.

This is the same Tesseract that Howard Stark recovered from the ocean floor. The same Tesseract that burned a hole through Johann Schmidt, and the bomber, in 1945.

Loki *enters* this world through the Tesseract in the JDM Lab. Ergo: he came from "the other side."

Ergo: "the other side" is Thanos' throne.

Ergo:

....yup. Skully is currently at Thanos' throne.

Chew on THAT awhile.
You know, I actually thought the same thing but wasn't so sure about it. Sounds like Avengers 3 might have Thanos, Red Skull, Loki, Mandarin (why not?).

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I really hope they don't go with "Thor is Gaia's son". It would be an unnecessary complication that would basically repeat Loki's themes all over again, *and* require introducing an extra god-being that otherwise is unlikely to be story-relevant. It would also beg a lot of questions on why Odin and Frigga don't have any of their own kids.

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Where do you think "the other end" is?

Here's the math, the way I see it: Loki wound up on Thanos' throne. Thanos tells him to go get the Tesseract, which SHIELD has in their Dark Matter lab.

This is the same Tesseract that Howard Stark recovered from the ocean floor. The same Tesseract that burned a hole through Johann Schmidt, and the bomber, in 1945.

Loki *enters* this world through the Tesseract in the JDM Lab. Ergo: he came from "the other side."

Ergo: "the other side" is Thanos' throne.

Ergo:

....yup. Skully is currently at Thanos' throne.

Chew on THAT awhile.
Need to watch it again, but couldn't Loki been teleported somewhere else? I remember Hiddleston saying he will meet gansters of the 9 realms. Couldn't he have gone somewhere else and found his way to Thanos throne?

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