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It's not easy for an actor to realize if they played the scene good or not. Also sometimes directors have interesting choices noone can understand why.
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Its Nolans fault the take is in the film.
Marion gave the laughable performance. They share any blame there. An actor of Marion's caliber should be able to play a death scene and know whether it worked or not.
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maybe they didnt have enough time to do more takes. you know how obsessed Nolan is with filming everything outside where he has no ful control over the weather and time.
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Nolan wasn't motivated for this movie, we see now the damage. Couple years ago I would never think Nolan will rush a movie...
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Please. One bad scene. There was superb action scenes & acting most of the movie.
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Come to think about it now that I was reminded on a tumblr blog post, (Spoilers for a Batman animated TV show)
Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
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I really wish they hadn't made 2 of the 3 films essentially about the LOS. BB was great. But then to come back to that again for the 3rd was a bummer. Batman has one of the widest rogues gallarie of any superhero. So many interesting villians to chose from. For me, the combo of Bane and Talia was a bad choice. It did feel to me like Nolan just didnt care and took the script that they had and decided it was good enough to film and ran with it.
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I think they cared, but I think they just went about things the wrong way. If you're going to go full circle there should be reason for it, Rises has no reason for doing it.
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![]() FWIW I still like to think that Ra's genuinely cared for Bruce and he looked at him as his own son. He doesn't seem to have a good relationship with Talia anyway. Heck Ra's might've favored Bruce over Talia to take over his throne which I'm sure royally pissed Talia off. I think I would just conveniently forget some of the stuff for TDKR so it doesn't completely ruin BB and TDK for me. ![]() |
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This thread makes me sad.
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Because there is so much potential to Talia as a character knowing what we know of her from the comics. Yet, the way she's presented in the movie was kind of a let down. Marion's performance, to the way the story was written for her, I just feel like it could have been better. I mean, there's not many good things to say about her role except for the way she played a couple lines, or a scene or two.
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Actually, even Marion riding in the truck during the finale seems off. When she's saying s#!* a few times she looks bored or something.
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Saw the movie again today, this time on IMAX. I'm sure it's been discussed, but I definitely noticed that nearly every one of Miranda's lines was a hint to her real identity, but in that Nolan way where you couldn't possibly catch them the first time. It was probably good for the filmmakers to keep the twist secret, even though it was totally obvious to us fans.
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In the end its the fans that lose out themselves, I'm just glad I managed to avoid the Talia twist for my first viewing, more than made up for her death scene ![]() |
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Yeah, this. Everyone I know who saw it all thought the twist was awesome and did not see it coming. Even I was impressed with how it was executed and I knew about it for over a year. Talia served a purpose to the plot and helped bring the trilogy full circle. She may have been underwritten, but she had a decent role and I was happy to see her in a Batman film finally. I'm satisfied.
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Her monologue to Bruce hits hard for me, and I'm surprised it hasn't seemed to for a lot of the folks online. It's true the average viewer was shocked by the reveal, but the real punch of the scene was when in the first time in the series, the facade of Batman crumbled and all that was left was a hurt Bruce Wayne- he uses his real voice as opposed to his "Batman" voice. I found the contrast powerful in what it meant to Bruce, and her delivery of the story with flashback I found moving and dually powerful, making it altogether one of my favorite moments of the film.
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please lets not act like the fans are complaining that they couldnt enjoy the twist because they know her from the comics. |
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For the record though I think she is fine in the rest of the movie. The knife story could have been silly; like something the villain had been rehearsing in front of mirror in case they ever needed it, but I think she pulled it off. Last edited by WVsax27; 08-04-2012 at 04:15 AM. |
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