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2 months is not a lot of time. The last time FOX rushed a Marvel film to start we got X3. Food for thought.
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Actually, last time Fox rushed a Marvel film to start we got X-Men: First Class. But I'd say that's the exception to the rule, and I totally agree with you.
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XM-Men First Class wasn't rushed, it just had a short shooting schedule from the beginning. X3 is the one where it kept on getting rushed to an earlier release.
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I consider both movies to be rushed because of the dates they were to be released and when Fox set them. I mean, some of the effects in First Class seem pretty unpolished/cheap, and probably could have been served by a longer production schedule. |
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No, X3 was pushed forward in order to get their movie out before Superman Returns, so they could get the comic movie revenue first, as well as the issues against Singer as well as Marsden.
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I will concede that X3 was rushed in the sense that they did not wait for Singer to come back from Superman Returns and set the release date to directly compete with SR, but even if Singer wasn't doing SR and was directing X3, I still would have considered the May 2006 date to be rushed. |
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Vaughn had four months after signing on before they started shooting, but Singer had likely started a lot of the previs and set design work
Ratner signed on shortly before filming but there were a few guys before him who got everything set up, he was mostly a hired hand It sounds like any Daredevil movie would have to be built from the ground up, from scratch. Anything they produce without an extension will be absolute horse**** |
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The louder I hear Fox talking, the more I think they want to sell. And I think they want cash - not characters in trade.
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It's a wonder that they mended the fences on First Class. |
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you just don't break a contract to do another film like he did... (and then try to steal cast members away to) he also tried to get shawn and famke. but James was the only one to go along He's good friends with the x-men producer Lauren Schuler Donner (aka Richard Donner director of superman's wife) so... me thinks she promised him a chance to direct supes, and he ditched fox for it. and she's probably the one to mend things with Bryan and Tom |
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I think Singer made a mistake by leaving for Superman, but what can you do.
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Correction: every X-Men film had Magneto AND THE BROTHERHOOD (with a changing roster), and later the Hellfire Club. Doom has.....a bunch of robots who look just like him. And that's all for supporting cast. Yeah, "The Fantastic Four Go To Latveria, Parts I, II & III" isn't going to fly. At all.
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2=Moleman, PsychoMan.. whomever 3=Doom causes rift in N-zone, causes war between Annihilus (or blaastar) and earth. |
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I just don't see that happening. Fox isn't going to just hand it over after a couple of years. Something needs to be worked out. This wheeling and dealing for certain characters doesn't fly for me. For one, Marvel is asking for way too much, and if they made that offer to me as an owner of FF, I would have laughed at them. But Marvel has a reputation of low balling so I am not surprised. They are going to have lower their asking price if they want FF and/or related characters. If I am Fox, I would gladly let DD revert than take anything close to a deal like that. |
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At this point, looking at the results of ASM, TIH, and Punisher/GR to a lesser extent, it is obvious to me that the general public will not be receptive to more FF, whether it is given serious treatment or otherwise. ASM and TIH weren't bad movies. Had they came out in 02/03 people would have though those were the greatest summer blockbusters ever. A pitch containing more Doom will fell like a rehash in every sense, just as what Spidey is going through now. I don't think using B-list villains while setting up for Doom/Annihilus later will work because one one will even care if the first film fails.
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A lot of fans are interpreting both how they want in multiple ways. We've been discussing everything from a loan of SS/Galactus rights for an extention of DD rights to Marvel gunning for the entirety of Fantastic Four to revert to the MCU in exchange for continual rights to DD and everything in between. Some of those might be considered lowballing others might be a fair exchange. |
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... Spidey isn't going through anything right now... It did above most expectations considering its a reboot. Its doing better than batman begins........ (it actually about doubled its box office) The studio considers it a success .
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Movie probably cost twice as much as what Batman Begins did.
To me above expectations for Amazing Spider-Man would be matching or surpassing Spider-Man 3.
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BB profit = 222 mil ASM profit = 447 mil thus far Any 5 second clip from asm did that....... The bar was pretty low
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I meant in terms of box office.
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And FF is coming off a much less successful predecessor. I don't see how that pitch draws the general public back in the game. Unless we are bringing in Clooney for Reed, Kidman for Sue, Daniel Day Lewis for Doom, and Spielberg/Jackson to direct. It just looks like more of the same from a story/structure standpoint if nothing else. My point being I think any reboots from now on have to be part of something bigger. Avengers changed the game in that sense. People want a more immersible world, not retreads.
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