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Old 08-01-2012, 08:00 PM   #26
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But he's not really an Avenger anyways. He's been an honorary member and has always allied himself with them but he's got a rich world to explore and prefer he battles his own demons. Pun intended.

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Old 08-01-2012, 08:20 PM   #27
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Yet the Avengers managed to challenge these threats without him for 50 years
No need to get sassy. Do you not agree that even what you just said seems a bit off? If Doc is around (in the Marvel Universe) and willing to fight evil, why did they never give him a ring? I know I'd feel a lot safer if he had my back.

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Old 08-01-2012, 08:25 PM   #28
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and if we are talking time frames here, no mention of Thanos was made until 10 years after the formation of the og Avengers. Quite a bit later do they fight him as a team.

So should we logically assume that the first Avengers film is the essence of the first 10 years of Avengers comics? Fair assessment. Then by the time we see Strange join up it'll likely be 30-50 years in. Sound good?

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Considering that Hulk stole the show in The Avengers, I honestly don't see that happening. Hawkeye and Black Widow could leave too. But with Scarlett getting paid tons for Avengers 2, I think it's obvious that she's sticking around. I would still want Hawkeye around just because I think he needs more development.
The other thing you could do is just make a Black Widow and Hawkeye film and make it a spy movie. SHIELD would have to to be a factor in the film though. They'd need some type of handler for gadgets, and it can't be the other Avengers because they'd steal the show.

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No need to get sassy. Do you not agree that even what you just said seems a bit off? If Doc is around (in the Marvel Universe) and willing to fight evil, why did they never give him a ring? I know I'd feel a lot safer if he had my back.
Doc Strange never became an official Avenger until the Bendis era mainly because he was linked to a different team: i.e., The Defenders. Hulk, Dr. Strange, Namor and Silver Surfer teamed up there, a "non-team" of loners who basically hated each other, and that's what kept them from joining the "all-stars" in Avengers or X-Men.

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Old 08-02-2012, 02:37 AM   #31
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Captain America, IronMan, Thor, AntMan, Wasp, Hawkeye, Black Phanter/Ms.Marvel

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Returning: Captain America, Hulk, Iron Man, Thor
Leaving: Black Widow, Hawkeye
Entering: Spider-Man

They're going to stick with characters that are known for the movies and throw a lot of cannon out the window because it just gets too out there. They'll stick with the formula that proved successful with The Avengers.

I'd also love to see a movie focusing on Black Widow and Hawkeye in the style of a thriller. It has a lot of potential and would be cool to see. Even if they don't appear in Avengers 2, we need to see them again sometime.

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We don't know If Iron Man will be back.Robert downey JR's contract Is up after Iron Man 3.So Disney will have to pay up for him to return.It's unclear If Jeremy Renner has contract for more films.I never heard any talk of that.

Capt,Thor,Banner/Hulk,and Black widow should all return.With The Falcon being Introduced In Captain America:The winter Soldier he could he added to Lineup.

The only way for spider-Man to appear if for DIsney and sony to reach deal.

Nick fury and Maria Hill should appear as Shield's pesence In film.

I personally would give Downey the money to return,drop Hawkeye,and only new avenger possibly appear Is Ant-Man Is his film comes out before The Avengers 2.

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Old 08-07-2012, 08:42 PM   #34
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Downey will return for the sequel to the top grossing cbm of all time. MS didn't just get stupid.

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Old 08-07-2012, 09:00 PM   #35
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Disney will have to turn over 20-25 Million Dollors to Downey.Joss Whedon will probally push for Downey to return.But,It's like Joss doing the Avengers 2 I will feel better when
It Is announced.

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Old 08-07-2012, 09:23 PM   #36
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Downey made 50 million dollars off Avengers

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Well they will have to pay him 50 Million+ for sequel.Seriously he could ask for small fortune to return.

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Probably get someone like Mockingbird or whatever on there.

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I wouldn't want Strange to be more than a cameo in an Avengers flick. MS needs to make movies unrelated to Avengers at some point, its not the Avengers Cinematic Universe.
This.

Not every Marvel movie needs to feed into Avengers. I would like Marvel to get Daredevil back and have him exist in their world, but I don't want him as an Avenger. Same with Dr Strange.

I would, however, like to see a Luke Cage film where his is on his own, and maybe joins the Avengers later on. He is the one Bendis Avenger that I think would work well getting thrown in with the movie team.

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This.

Not every Marvel movie needs to feed into Avengers. I would like Marvel to get Daredevil back and have him exist in their world, but I don't want him as an Avenger. Same with Dr Strange.
Agreed. But I do want all MCU films to feed into an Infinity Gauntlet movie. The story is too far-reaching and epic to be limited to an Avengers movie starring six heroes. It's crazy ambitious, but I believe they can pull it off. Just make it 3+ hours long. =D

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I would, however, like to see a Luke Cage film where his is on his own, and maybe joins the Avengers later on. He is the one Bendis Avenger that I think would work well getting thrown in with the movie team.
Well, I'd want to see a Luke Cage story either as a solo movie leading up to or within a Heroes for Hire movie.

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I would love the whole Marvel U in a giant crossover extravaganza whether it be Infinity Gauntlet, Galactus, or Secret Wars.

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Old 08-08-2012, 11:48 AM   #42
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I would love the whole Marvel U in a giant crossover extravaganza whether it be Infinity Gauntlet, Galactus, or Secret Wars.
Juuuust as long as the giant crossover extravanganza isn't Civil War. Gotta make sure you put up the qualifiers, friend. =D

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Old 08-08-2012, 11:53 AM   #43
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I actually think a giant crossover extravaganza is a terrible idea, and would inevitably be awful. Plus all of the actors would hate making it

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Damn it, I missed. Good reflexes there Chewy.

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I actually think a giant crossover extravaganza is a terrible idea, and would inevitably be awful. Plus all of the actors would hate making it

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Hmm, I understand the sentiment, but I still disagree. Would you make it a two hour, smaller scoped Thanos/Infinity Gauntlet-centric movie, then?

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Yeah, the Avengers plus a handful of Guardians versus Thanos. And even that is stretching it a tad, but could work

Not smaller scoped, though. I don't necessarily think more characters = bigger scope, anyway

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If (a big if) the various tv and film projects are successful, its sort of inevitable that there will be a big cross-over project. But that's pretty far down the road, post-TA3.

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Yeah, the Avengers plus a handful of Guardians versus Thanos. And even that is stretching it a tad, but could work

Not smaller scoped, though. I don't necessarily think more characters = bigger scope, anyway
I guess giant crossover extravaganza doesn't necessarily mean giving like 50 different heroes 10 minutes of screen time--but I do think you need to show every aspect of the MCU up to that point being affected by Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet. That means showing characters/settings outside of the Avengers and GOTG, too.

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I guess giant crossover extravaganza doesn't necessarily mean giving like 50 different heroes 10 minutes of screen time--but I do think you need to show every aspect of the MCU up to that point being affected by Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet. That means showing characters/settings outside of the Avengers and GOTG, too.
I'd be cool with cameos from all the characters. Like a scene with Black Panther walking out of his throne room in Wakanda and looking up at the sun being blotted out, just as an example. I think that's the best way to make the film feel huge and all-encompassing without bloat.

But you gotta pick, say, 10 heroes and stick with them as the "heroes" of the piece.

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