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And they've got a great one that's right in front of them, that they keep inching toward but still haven't gone all-in on. She's the perfect connective tissue between the Avengers and the cosmic.
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Not much really. Carol's history, is at it's core a "woman trying to make it in a man's world" story. She came from a traditional family/ her dad loved her brothers more etc. etc.
Her relationship with Mar-Vell was more of one where she was in awe and inspired by him, yet saw him as a challenge she had to meet vs. any sort of love interest. The thing that keeps her from being an inspirational tale of feminism is well...being raped, exploited, depowered, cast out of the avengers, becoming an alcoholic...For every step forward she takes, she always seems to take 5 or 10 back. |
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![]() Heh. Kidding. I'd like to see her stand for humanity, in both its vulnerability and its strength, in its frailty and its fortitude. In the face of foreign entities that would threaten humanity, it would be cool to see her represent the human spirit and how it continues to fight despite terrible odds. I think the Kree would be the perfect enemy to speak against that. |
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Captain Marvel is begging to become Marvel's Wonder Woman. Marvel's top females have always been someone's wife, someone's girlfriend, lost in a team dynamic etc. There's never been a real solo woman franchise in Marvel, and I think Carol's as good of a choice as any.
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Hot Pants were associated with prostitution as well,but that didn't stop Supergirl (America's Superhero sweetheart) from wearing them in the 70's. It's a Superhero costume.There's no need to read too much into it. |
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Hopefully GOTG and the Thanos mid-credits scene is a signal that the Earth is ready for a higher form of warbird. And a sign that Marvel Studios is thinking bigger.
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Hopefully. I rarely buy single issue comics anymore but I've been picking up Captain Marvel to support the cause.
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I just thought of your ultimate nightmare...Frank Miller's Captain Marvel...
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Well...it would be EXACTLY the Immortus stuff. Except Ms. Marvel would be a hooker.
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"And so then Captain Marvel punches the guy and WHORESWHORESWHORES"
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Carol: Cap, Marcus raped me... *Captain America backhands her* WHORES WHORES WHORES! |
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Hmmm... I'll think on this, come back to it later.
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I like the idea of Ms./Capt. Marvel actually having some authority on certain matters, as well as a contrasting leadership style from Cap's. The greatest of leaders have consultants/confidants regarding the areas in life in which they themselves do not have an expertise (see: Captain Kirk with Spock and Bones, and even Scotty at times). I could see Cap respecting Carol's knowledge/experience enough to delegate some responsibility/defer to her--and in doing so, the rest of the team (even the supergeniuses) would follow his lead. |
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It'd be a bit hard to swallow. |
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Yeah, they wouldn't defer to her any more than they'd defer to Stark or Thor. They might listen to her, but they'd probably listen to any of their members. She's not Captain America.
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Exactly. Everyone defers to Captain America. The God of Thunder defers to him, why shouldn't Ms. Marvel?
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amazing the comicbook fans who could pass for colonial-era puritans.. curious.
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How do you figure, sportsfan?
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I think authority might be on the right track, if the Avengers break off from SHIELD, as they very well might, she could be the one Avenger that still is SHIELD, and is the Liason to the Avengers, and represents their authority and interests. Which has the danger of making her an obstructive bureaucrat, but also gives her a lot of exposition dialogue and she can still become cool anyway. Edit: Expanding on this idea, Liason/Mediator could very well be her niche. She could be the broker/peacemaker type, the one who fixes situations in a more TNG Trek-ish way. She can do that for the cosmos in her own property, she can do that between SHIELD and the Avengers in the films. Could be fun. It synchs with the idea of the more 'relational' woman, but is still prfessional. You can bring in shades of The Closer and other 'bout business female heroines.
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And he's certainly got a point. There's more prudes in this thread than there are likely to be amongst audiences who actually care about a Ms. Marvel or Wonder Woman movie.
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