Mar-Vell Family Thread

Chewy · 08-06-2012, 07:22 PM

If Nova gets a thread, then so does he

Alright so considering Phyla is Mar-Vell's daughter, and all of the tomfoolery involved in her "creation", I think it's fair to say she's very much a long shot to show up on film.

The question is, will they make Mar-Vell a Guardian in her place? Or perhaps make a Capt. Marvel movie, about his death and Carol taking the mantle, and make her a full-on cosmic hero, maybe a Guardian?

Looking at the Guardians roster, several of them are probably unfit for film
Bug & Jack Flag were/are useless, won't show up
Rocky's got the talking animal thing covered so I doubt we'll see Cosmo
The alternate timelines and Cap's shield hullabaloo make Vance unlikely

So we've got the 5 from the movie, plus Warlock and one of Moondragon or Mantis (doubt we'll see both, kind of redundant) as potential Guardians

And potentially Nova, and hopefully the Surfer, as "solo" cosmic characters

So where do the Vells fit in?

KangConquers · 08-17-2012, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy

If Nova gets a thread, then so does he

Alright so considering Phyla is Mar-Vell's daughter, and all of the tomfoolery involved in her "creation", I think it's fair to say she's very much a long shot to show up on film.

The question is, will they make Mar-Vell a Guardian in her place? Or perhaps make a Capt. Marvel movie, about his death and Carol taking the mantle, and make her a full-on cosmic hero, maybe a Guardian?

Looking at the Guardians roster, several of them are probably unfit for film
Bug & Jack Flag were/are useless, won't show up
Rocky's got the talking animal thing covered so I doubt we'll see Cosmo
The alternate timelines and Cap's shield hullabaloo make Vance unlikely

So we've got the 5 from the movie, plus Warlock and one of Moondragon or Mantis (doubt we'll see both, kind of redundant) as potential Guardians

And potentially Nova, and hopefully the Surfer, as "solo" cosmic characters

So where do the Vells fit in?

I'd just use Captain Mar-Vell himself. No reason to use his C-list artificially aged half kree/ eternal clone child. It's just too much back story.

pr0xyt0xin · 09-04-2012, 06:44 AM

You don't think they would make some amalgamation of Phyla-Vell and Ms. Marvel?

Similar powers and both have taken the mantle of Captain at some point... Obviously they are drastically different characters. But it might be possible for them to think up some way to fuse the two. Just wondering if that would seem logical?

For instance, Danvers is Quill's copilot as has been suggested, mayhem ensues after which she finds out she is actually the long lost daughter of Captain Mar-Vell. Ends up taking the mantle of Captain after he dies and becomes the spiritual incarnation of three popular characters. Kills three birds with one stone so to speak.

ok that was weird. but you get the point, remove the redundancy of two light haired, light skinned, cosmic energy absorbing, large breasted females with starbursts on their costumes. While still appealing to fans of both characters.

metaphysician · 09-04-2012, 05:52 PM

Ugh, I hope not. I hate Phyla Vell.

KangConquers · 09-04-2012, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by metaphysician

Ugh, I hope not. I hate Phyla Vell.

Phylla shouldn't drag down Carol, Mar-Vell, or Quasar (Wendell Vaughn). All are more important than her.

KangConquers · 09-04-2012, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0xyt0xin

You don't think they would make some amalgamation of Phyla-Vell and Ms. Marvel?

Similar powers and both have taken the mantle of Captain at some point... Obviously they are drastically different characters. But it might be possible for them to think up some way to fuse the two. Just wondering if that would seem logical?

For instance, Danvers is Quill's copilot as has been suggested, mayhem ensues after which she finds out she is actually the long lost daughter of Captain Mar-Vell. Ends up taking the mantle of Captain after he dies and becomes the spiritual incarnation of three popular characters. Kills three birds with one stone so to speak.

ok that was weird. but you get the point, remove the redundancy of two light haired, light skinned, cosmic energy absorbing, large breasted females with starbursts on their costumes. While still appealing to fans of both characters.

I don't see how ruining a top 5 Marvel female to please fans of a top 200 female hero at best is worth doing.

pr0xyt0xin · 09-04-2012, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KangConquers

I don't see how ruining a top 5 Marvel female to please fans of a top 200 female hero at best is worth doing.

you're own personal rankings I presume?

KangConquers · 09-04-2012, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0xyt0xin

you're own personal rankings I presume?

More arbitrary quantification of the difference between Ms. Marvel's importance and Phyla's in Marvel history + popularity levels.

pr0xyt0xin · 09-04-2012, 11:43 PM

understandable. I just figure a movie based on the 2008 GotG run is more likely to star Phyla. By your arbitrary quantification, it would be quite an oddity to see Phyla in a feature-length film before we see Carol. But if they were to essentially replace her with Ms. Marvel, I for one wouldn't be outraged or anything.

KangConquers · 09-04-2012, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pr0xyt0xin

understandable. I just figure a movie based on the 2008 GotG run is more likely to star Phyla. By your arbitrary quantification, it would be quite an oddity to see Phyla in a feature-length film before we see Carol. But if they were to essentially replace her with Ms. Marvel, I for one wouldn't be outraged or anything.

I would just rather they replace her with either Mar-Vell (her father, the character she's basically a spin-off of) or Quasar (The character who's name sake/ powers she took.) I just feel like Phyla is a secondary character in several other characters stories, vs a character who deserves to take priority on the big screen.

pr0xyt0xin · 09-04-2012, 11:57 PM

It'll definitely be interesting to see how they incorporate the Mar-Vell family into the MCU without A. spending so much time on the specifics that it becomes the main focus of the story, or B. confusing the audience with all the various blonde, glowy-eyed energy sponges.

KangConquers · 09-05-2012, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by pr0xyt0xin

It'll definitely be interesting to see how they incorporate the Mar-Vell family into the MCU without A. spending so much time on the specifics that it becomes the main focus of the story, or B. confusing the audience with all the various blonde, glowy-eyed energy sponges.

The best answer is probably just saving Mar-Vell for a movie starring Carol Danvers, and not addressing his children.

We had an avenger franchise that skated around the Pyms in the first film, and is probably going to avoid the Maximoff twins for the whole trilogy. You can probably do a Guardians trilogy without Phyla ever coming into play, rather easily.

jaqua99 · 02-04-2013, 02:51 PM

You guys remember the Coulson being Mar-vell rumors? What do you think??? There has got to be some explanation as to why he is alive. There were rumors that ms marvel would make it to avengers 2. . Also, Gene Colan designed captain marvel.

Gene Colan
Phil Coulson

both sound like "col", but the spelling can through people off, sure it's reaching, but maybe it was meant to be reached for. Could it be a possiblity?

Remember Jordanstine? He had a source supposedly. He knew stuff about avengers, and his source was legit.

We all know Kevin Feige denied that the aliens were Skrulls or Kree.

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

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08-06-2012, 07:22 PM	#1
Chewy REDACTED Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 12,341	Mar-Vell Family Thread If Nova gets a thread, then so does he Alright so considering Phyla is Mar-Vell's daughter, and all of the tomfoolery involved in her "creation", I think it's fair to say she's very much a long shot to show up on film. The question is, will they make Mar-Vell a Guardian in her place? Or perhaps make a Capt. Marvel movie, about his death and Carol taking the mantle, and make her a full-on cosmic hero, maybe a Guardian? Looking at the Guardians roster, several of them are probably unfit for film Bug & Jack Flag were/are useless, won't show up Rocky's got the talking animal thing covered so I doubt we'll see Cosmo The alternate timelines and Cap's shield hullabaloo make Vance unlikely So we've got the 5 from the movie, plus Warlock and one of Moondragon or Mantis (doubt we'll see both, kind of redundant) as potential Guardians And potentially Nova, and hopefully the Surfer, as "solo" cosmic characters So where do the Vells fit in?

09-04-2012, 06:44 AM	#3
pr0xyt0xin Shaper Savant Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: United States Posts: 2,540	Re: Mar-Vell Family Thread You don't think they would make some amalgamation of Phyla-Vell and Ms. Marvel? Similar powers and both have taken the mantle of Captain at some point... Obviously they are drastically different characters. But it might be possible for them to think up some way to fuse the two. Just wondering if that would seem logical? For instance, Danvers is Quill's copilot as has been suggested, mayhem ensues after which she finds out she is actually the long lost daughter of Captain Mar-Vell. Ends up taking the mantle of Captain after he dies and becomes the spiritual incarnation of three popular characters. Kills three birds with one stone so to speak. ok that was weird. but you get the point, remove the redundancy of two light haired, light skinned, cosmic energy absorbing, large breasted females with starbursts on their costumes. While still appealing to fans of both characters. __________________ I just stole a poncho from a wooden Indian...

09-04-2012, 05:52 PM	#4
metaphysician Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 2,060	Re: Mar-Vell Family Thread Ugh, I hope not. I hate Phyla Vell.

09-04-2012, 11:43 PM	#9
pr0xyt0xin Shaper Savant Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: United States Posts: 2,540	Re: Mar-Vell Family Thread understandable. I just figure a movie based on the 2008 GotG run is more likely to star Phyla. By your arbitrary quantification, it would be quite an oddity to see Phyla in a feature-length film before we see Carol. But if they were to essentially replace her with Ms. Marvel, I for one wouldn't be outraged or anything. __________________ I just stole a poncho from a wooden Indian...

09-04-2012, 11:57 PM	#11
pr0xyt0xin Shaper Savant Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: United States Posts: 2,540	Re: Mar-Vell Family Thread It'll definitely be interesting to see how they incorporate the Mar-Vell family into the MCU without A. spending so much time on the specifics that it becomes the main focus of the story, or B. confusing the audience with all the various blonde, glowy-eyed energy sponges. __________________ I just stole a poncho from a wooden Indian...

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