Changing the roster for Avengers 2?

[Chewy]

Originally Posted by marcvader

Yeah, and the way moviegoers voiced their disgust over that.

Yep. I know at least 2 people who wouldn't go see it a 5th time, purely to protest the sausagey nature of the whole thing.

Anecdotal evidence, doesn't get more reliable than that.

[marcvader]

Lol

[Chewy]

On another note they're putting Falcon everywhere: front and center in the NOW Avengers comics, starring in the new Avengers cartoon, etc. I don't think it's a coincidence

[jaqua99]

Originally Posted by Chewy

Other than the first movie being a total sausagefest, of course

Sorry. Let me rephrase that, there is no way to really introduce her as Ms Marvel yet

[spideymouse]

Originally Posted by jaqua99

Sorry. Let me rephrase that, there is no way to really introduce her as Ms Marvel yet

Yeah, I think there's plenty of opportunity to introduce Carol Danvers in Phase II. Set her up as an agent/head of SWORD in Thor. Have her be associated with Peter Quill. Have her pilot Cap somewhere in an F-22. Something.

[jaqua99]

Originally Posted by spideymouse

Yeah, I think there's plenty of opportunity to introduce Carol Danvers in Phase II. Set her up as an agent/head of SWORD in Thor. Have her be associated with Peter Quill. Have her pilot Cap somewhere in an F-22. Something.

Well there is. But if I am not mistaken, doesn't she have a lot to do with the Kree? If that is the case, I feel like she wouldn't be able to be introduced until the kree are.

[spideymouse]

Originally Posted by jaqua99

Well there is. But if I am not mistaken, doesn't she have a lot to do with the Kree? If that is the case, I feel like she wouldn't be able to be introduced until the kree are.

Yeah, this is where we agree about her not being able to show up as Ms. Marvel until later. I would say that she can't get her powers until around the time that the Kree stuff would be happening. But the character as Carol Danvers can still play a role/make cameo appearances in events before then. The trick is to find an actress willing to do that, as well as for Marvel to have sufficient foresight/planning capabilities--both of which may be difficult things to ask for.

[Chewy]

Deal with some of the Kree stuff in the SHIELD show

[Hawkingbird]

Hopefully SWORD will come into that show.

[Silvermoth]

Originally Posted by Chewy

Yep. I know at least 2 people who wouldn't go see it a 5th time, purely to protest the sausagey nature of the whole thing.

Anecdotal evidence, doesn't get more reliable than that.

There's no reason to be rude. Some people did criticize the lack of good female characters/Avengers. That's a good way to start improving things in the sequel.

[Dylan.G]

I think Hawkeye should turn into Ronin at some point, but still be part of the avengers, its c change, but same person..

[KangConquers]

Nah. Barton's not even really hawkeye now anyway. He's a SHIELD Agent with a bow.

Assuming we only get 6 more characters in Avengers 2-3 to add to the 6 we have, who would be your "second six?"

Mine:

1. Ant-Man (Pym)
2. Wasp
3. Vision
4. Black Panther
5. Scarlet Witch
6. Quicksilver

[marcvader]

If they actually added 6 more to the franchise, I'd say add:

1. Pym
2. Wasp
3. Vision
4. Ms. Marvel
5. Black Panther
6. Scarlett Witch

[Chewy]

1. Ms Captain Marvel
2. Scarlet Witch
3. Vision
4. Black Panther
5. Falcon
6. Pym (Only if they go Ultron)

Not that I think they'll add more than 2-3 in the next two movies

[KangConquers]

Originally Posted by Chewy

1. Ms Captain Marvel
2. Scarlet Witch
3. Vision
4. Black Panther
5. Falcon
6. Pym (Only if they go Ultron)

Not that I think they'll add more than 2-3 in the next two movies

If I was going to guess which six we'll get, it would probably be.

Phase 2:

1. Falcon (Captain America: The Winter Soldier)
2. Hank Pym (Ant-Man)
3. Wasp (Ant-Man)


Phase 3:

1. Black Panther (Black Panther Solo film)
2. Doctor Strange (Doctor Strange solo film)
3. Ms. Marvel (Cameo in a phase 3 movie or spun out of the SHIELD series)

I'm just a total pirate hooker for 60s Avengers.

[xeno000]

Originally Posted by Chewy

Yep. I know at least 2 people who wouldn't go see it a 5th time, purely to protest the sausagey nature of the whole thing.

Anecdotal evidence, doesn't get more reliable than that.

The fact that The Avengers was a sausagefest was a total plus for me. Sure, I want to see Jan and Wanda (and Monica and Tigra*) on the big screen, but I was okay with having a bunch of hot guys in spandex and metal to enjoy in the first movie. Also, I loved Scarlett's kickass portrayal of the Black Widow, so I feel the female side was well-represented. For now.


They need to add superheroines in the sequels, however. What could be overlooked or excused in the first movie won't fly as time goes by. I'm still pissed as hell that the Wasp was not included; as a founding member she deserved to be there. The Scarlet Witch joined the team in issue #16, which is close to the beginning, and she remained an integral part of the team for many years. Wanda was one of the second wave of Avengers after the founders quit, which is further justification for bringing her onboard. Marvel has Wanda's rights, so it should not be a problem to include her now, unless they're dedicated to remaining a sausage factory forever.


* All the guys who thought I was a prude for wanting Ms. Marvel's costume changed will be shocked -- shocked! -- to hear that I'd be fine with Ms. Tigra appearing in all her bikini-clad glory. Nobody in their right mind puts clothes on a cat.

[Chewy]

Originally Posted by KangConquers

If I was going to guess which six we'll get, it would probably be.

Phase 2:

1. Falcon (Captain America: The Winter Soldier)
2. Hank Pym (Ant-Man)
3. Wasp (Ant-Man)


Phase 3:

1. Black Panther (Black Panther Solo film)
2. Doctor Strange (Doctor Strange solo film)
3. Ms. Marvel (Cameo in a phase 3 movie or spun out of the SHIELD series)

I'm just a total pirate hooker for 60s Avengers.

I mean 2-3 total, not per flick

And I think one of them will be Warlock, in a Death of Warlock sort-of-adaptation

[Marathon]

Since Ant-Man & Wasp are going to take two places, that leaves very little room to shoehorn any more characters in. After those two I would be fine with any one of these:

Scarlet Witch (although probably only going to appear when/if Coulson "returns" as the Vision)
She-Hulk (possible interesting quarrels/talks with Bruce?)
Ms Marvel (as has been said before, probably requires some sort of Kree portion inserted into the plot; Danvers of course can/should appear before that)
Black Panther (although I don't know much about him)

Things will be quite different for TA3 because many of the now established stars might want to do something else by then (RDJ & Gwyneth for example).

[KangConquers]

Originally Posted by Chewy

I mean 2-3 total, not per flick

And I think one of them will be Warlock, in a Death of Warlock sort-of-adaptation

True. I can't see Whedon not doing an adaptation of Avengers Annual #7.

I think Falcon is a lock for Avengers 2. The forthcoming cartoon indicates it.

[Human Torch]

My top 6 would be:

1.Wasp
2.Pym
3.Ms Marvel
5.Vision
6.Scarlet Witch

I doubt we'd get Vision & Scarlet Witch since Fox has the rights,and I rather not have a watered down version.

[spideymouse]

Originally Posted by Human Torch

My top 6 would be:

1.Wasp
2.Pym
3.Ms Marvel
5.Vision
6.Scarlet Witch

I doubt we'd get Vision & Scarlet Witch since Fox has the rights,and I rather not have a watered down version.

Who's your fourth? YOUR FOURTH?! haha.

[Human Torch]

Invisible Woman.

[marcvader]

[Human Torch]

[Silvermoth]

Originally Posted by Human Torch

Invisible Woman.

I can't see that