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Old 09-05-2012, 05:11 PM   #126
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Yeah, and the way moviegoers voiced their disgust over that.
Yep. I know at least 2 people who wouldn't go see it a 5th time, purely to protest the sausagey nature of the whole thing.

Anecdotal evidence, doesn't get more reliable than that.

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Old 09-05-2012, 05:17 PM   #127
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Old 09-05-2012, 06:48 PM   #128
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On another note they're putting Falcon everywhere: front and center in the NOW Avengers comics, starring in the new Avengers cartoon, etc. I don't think it's a coincidence

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Old 09-05-2012, 08:48 PM   #129
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Other than the first movie being a total sausagefest, of course

Sorry. Let me rephrase that, there is no way to really introduce her as Ms Marvel yet

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Old 09-06-2012, 10:24 AM   #130
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Sorry. Let me rephrase that, there is no way to really introduce her as Ms Marvel yet
Yeah, I think there's plenty of opportunity to introduce Carol Danvers in Phase II. Set her up as an agent/head of SWORD in Thor. Have her be associated with Peter Quill. Have her pilot Cap somewhere in an F-22. Something.

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Old 09-06-2012, 11:34 AM   #131
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Yeah, I think there's plenty of opportunity to introduce Carol Danvers in Phase II. Set her up as an agent/head of SWORD in Thor. Have her be associated with Peter Quill. Have her pilot Cap somewhere in an F-22. Something.
Well there is. But if I am not mistaken, doesn't she have a lot to do with the Kree? If that is the case, I feel like she wouldn't be able to be introduced until the kree are.

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Old 09-06-2012, 12:13 PM   #132
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Well there is. But if I am not mistaken, doesn't she have a lot to do with the Kree? If that is the case, I feel like she wouldn't be able to be introduced until the kree are.
Yeah, this is where we agree about her not being able to show up as Ms. Marvel until later. I would say that she can't get her powers until around the time that the Kree stuff would be happening. But the character as Carol Danvers can still play a role/make cameo appearances in events before then. The trick is to find an actress willing to do that, as well as for Marvel to have sufficient foresight/planning capabilities--both of which may be difficult things to ask for.

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Old 09-06-2012, 12:51 PM   #133
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Deal with some of the Kree stuff in the SHIELD show

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Old 09-07-2012, 12:55 AM   #134
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Hopefully SWORD will come into that show.

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Old 09-07-2012, 06:09 AM   #135
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Yep. I know at least 2 people who wouldn't go see it a 5th time, purely to protest the sausagey nature of the whole thing.

Anecdotal evidence, doesn't get more reliable than that.
There's no reason to be rude. Some people did criticize the lack of good female characters/Avengers. That's a good way to start improving things in the sequel.

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Old 09-07-2012, 07:53 AM   #136
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I think Hawkeye should turn into Ronin at some point, but still be part of the avengers, its c change, but same person..

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Old 09-10-2012, 12:58 PM   #137
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Nah. Barton's not even really hawkeye now anyway. He's a SHIELD Agent with a bow.

Assuming we only get 6 more characters in Avengers 2-3 to add to the 6 we have, who would be your "second six?"

Mine:

1. Ant-Man (Pym)
2. Wasp
3. Vision
4. Black Panther
5. Scarlet Witch
6. Quicksilver

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If they actually added 6 more to the franchise, I'd say add:

1. Pym
2. Wasp
3. Vision
4. Ms. Marvel
5. Black Panther
6. Scarlett Witch

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Old 09-10-2012, 01:39 PM   #139
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1. Ms Captain Marvel
2. Scarlet Witch
3. Vision
4. Black Panther
5. Falcon
6. Pym (Only if they go Ultron)

Not that I think they'll add more than 2-3 in the next two movies

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Old 09-10-2012, 04:02 PM   #140
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1. Ms Captain Marvel
2. Scarlet Witch
3. Vision
4. Black Panther
5. Falcon
6. Pym (Only if they go Ultron)

Not that I think they'll add more than 2-3 in the next two movies
If I was going to guess which six we'll get, it would probably be.

Phase 2:

1. Falcon (Captain America: The Winter Soldier)
2. Hank Pym (Ant-Man)
3. Wasp (Ant-Man)


Phase 3:

1. Black Panther (Black Panther Solo film)
2. Doctor Strange (Doctor Strange solo film)
3. Ms. Marvel (Cameo in a phase 3 movie or spun out of the SHIELD series)

I'm just a total pirate hooker for 60s Avengers.

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Yep. I know at least 2 people who wouldn't go see it a 5th time, purely to protest the sausagey nature of the whole thing.

Anecdotal evidence, doesn't get more reliable than that.

The fact that The Avengers was a sausagefest was a total plus for me. Sure, I want to see Jan and Wanda (and Monica and Tigra*) on the big screen, but I was okay with having a bunch of hot guys in spandex and metal to enjoy in the first movie. Also, I loved Scarlett's kickass portrayal of the Black Widow, so I feel the female side was well-represented. For now.


They need to add superheroines in the sequels, however. What could be overlooked or excused in the first movie won't fly as time goes by. I'm still pissed as hell that the Wasp was not included; as a founding member she deserved to be there. The Scarlet Witch joined the team in issue #16, which is close to the beginning, and she remained an integral part of the team for many years. Wanda was one of the second wave of Avengers after the founders quit, which is further justification for bringing her onboard. Marvel has Wanda's rights, so it should not be a problem to include her now, unless they're dedicated to remaining a sausage factory forever.


* All the guys who thought I was a prude for wanting Ms. Marvel's costume changed will be shocked -- shocked! -- to hear that I'd be fine with Ms. Tigra appearing in all her bikini-clad glory. Nobody in their right mind puts clothes on a cat.

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Old 09-10-2012, 10:19 PM   #142
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If I was going to guess which six we'll get, it would probably be.

Phase 2:

1. Falcon (Captain America: The Winter Soldier)
2. Hank Pym (Ant-Man)
3. Wasp (Ant-Man)


Phase 3:

1. Black Panther (Black Panther Solo film)
2. Doctor Strange (Doctor Strange solo film)
3. Ms. Marvel (Cameo in a phase 3 movie or spun out of the SHIELD series)

I'm just a total pirate hooker for 60s Avengers.
I mean 2-3 total, not per flick

And I think one of them will be Warlock, in a Death of Warlock sort-of-adaptation

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Old 09-11-2012, 01:30 AM   #143
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Since Ant-Man & Wasp are going to take two places, that leaves very little room to shoehorn any more characters in. After those two I would be fine with any one of these:

Scarlet Witch (although probably only going to appear when/if Coulson "returns" as the Vision)
She-Hulk (possible interesting quarrels/talks with Bruce?)
Ms Marvel (as has been said before, probably requires some sort of Kree portion inserted into the plot; Danvers of course can/should appear before that)
Black Panther (although I don't know much about him)

Things will be quite different for TA3 because many of the now established stars might want to do something else by then (RDJ & Gwyneth for example).


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Old 09-11-2012, 01:47 AM   #144
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I mean 2-3 total, not per flick

And I think one of them will be Warlock, in a Death of Warlock sort-of-adaptation
True. I can't see Whedon not doing an adaptation of Avengers Annual #7.

I think Falcon is a lock for Avengers 2. The forthcoming cartoon indicates it.

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Old 09-11-2012, 03:13 PM   #145
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My top 6 would be:

1.Wasp
2.Pym
3.Ms Marvel
5.Vision
6.Scarlet Witch

I doubt we'd get Vision & Scarlet Witch since Fox has the rights,and I rather not have a watered down version.

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My top 6 would be:

1.Wasp
2.Pym
3.Ms Marvel
5.Vision
6.Scarlet Witch

I doubt we'd get Vision & Scarlet Witch since Fox has the rights,and I rather not have a watered down version.
Who's your fourth? YOUR FOURTH?! haha.

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Old 09-11-2012, 06:08 PM   #147
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Invisible Woman.

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