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Old 09-07-2012, 01:02 AM   #226
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It was okay.
Seconded.

He really hasn't done anything mindblowing or brilliant.

HEAVY I think's been his best so far, with Copland coming in at a close second. They were very well-made films with solid storytelling. Both 8/10 for me.

Girl Interrupted, Walk The Line & 3:10 to Yuma were good. Not great. I think the actors shined, but the films as a whole didn't match the performances.

Kate & Leopold was a decent rom-com, nothing more. A fun movie.

Identity & Knight & Day were both an absolute waste of my time.

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Old 09-24-2012, 06:13 PM   #227
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3:10 to Yuma was brilliant

Agreed! One of my favorite films!

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Old 09-24-2012, 07:56 PM   #228
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Yeah 3:10 was awesome.

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Old 09-24-2012, 09:09 PM   #229
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Well 3:10 didn't feature 45 minutes of Ryan Gosling doing nothing but furrowing his brow and staring off into the distance so clearly it can't be anything but average.

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I loved 3:10 to Yuma and Walk the Line.

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Old 09-24-2012, 09:59 PM   #231
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Well 3:10 didn't feature 45 minutes of Ryan Gosling doing nothing but furrowing his brow and staring off into the distance so clearly it can't be anything but average.
Right, because DRIVE was terrible.

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Well 3:10 didn't feature 45 minutes of Ryan Gosling doing nothing but furrowing his brow and staring off into the distance so clearly it can't be anything but average.
thought i was in the minority i didn't really like Drive at all definition of style over substance

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Old 09-24-2012, 10:23 PM   #233
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thought i was in the minority i didn't really like Drive at all definition of style over substance
You're in the minority, man. It was the most praised film of 2011 along with THE ARTIST.

The fact that the Academy snubbed it created an outrage in the Hollywood circle.

Also, DRIVE has tons of substance.

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Old 09-24-2012, 11:58 PM   #234
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thought i was in the minority i didn't really like Drive at all definition of style over substance
The soundtrack was pretty good. For a movie about a stunt/getaway driver it could have used a few more driving scenes though. I mean you don't see anyone making a movie called EXPLODE and not blowing anything up, right?

Style over substance is pretty apt. It's one of those overrated pseudo art films that no one will remember in a few years.

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Old 09-25-2012, 12:05 AM   #235
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^exactly it's best attributes is it's style

atmosphere, cinematography, soundtrack are the best thing about drive the characters and story is very under developed and thin

you can tell the writer of snow white and the huntsman wrote the script

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Old 09-25-2012, 12:14 AM   #236
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you can tell the writer of snow white and the huntsman wrote the script
The script was re-written by Refn and Gosling.

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Old 09-25-2012, 12:23 AM   #237
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The soundtrack was pretty good. For a movie about a stunt/getaway driver it could have used a few more driving scenes though. I mean you don't see anyone making a movie called EXPLODE and not blowing anything up, right?
Right, and THERE WILL BE BLOOD needed more BLOOD and NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN needed more old men and TYRANNOSAUR needed an actual Tyrannosaur and THE TREE OF LIFE needed an actual tree [of life].

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Style over substance is pretty apt. It's one of those overrated pseudo art films that no one will remember in a few years.
This is just painful to read. Thank God it isn't the slightest bit true.

Also, word of advice - steer clear of Paul Thomas Anderson's THE MASTER. Its got alotta scenes of Joaquin Phoenix doing nothing but furrowing his brow and staring off into the distance.

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Old 09-25-2012, 12:58 AM   #238
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^exactly it's best attributes is it's style

atmosphere, cinematography, soundtrack are the best thing about drive the characters and story is very under developed and thin

you can tell the writer of snow white and the huntsman wrote the script
Not impressed with anything on the guys resume so not surprising.

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Old 09-25-2012, 02:13 AM   #239
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The short amount of dialogue in Drive attributed to what made it so good imo. You knew what was going on with the characters without them spelling it out through dialogue. It was a huge part of the films style and tone. Didnt think that those choices made it light on plot. Theres def enough going on with the characters and story imo. Thought both 3:10 and Drive kicked ass and had excellent Directors. Ive ran into a few arguments on both films lately so I guess they do have a split audience.

Mangold has a good track record with actors, I really think Hugh will own this one. Hope to see more rage. If they cant get Wolverine on try 5 then it will kinda suck that X2 was really the peak moment for him.


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Old 09-25-2012, 04:36 AM   #240
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Drive is a fantastic movie. It's not substance over style but much of it's substance comes from it's style.

With that said I think Mangold can be great too and I'm an avid lover of Walk the Line. As a huge Johnny Cash fan, I think it's fantastic, very emotional.

Copland is really great too and underrated.

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Honestly I've liked everything I've seen of Mangold's except for Knight & Day
I even thought Identity was a fun little thriller, though not exactly a masterpiece of cinema

And Drive...well, that movie I still don't know how I feel about it.
It was good, but in a very disturbing, "I-feel-dirty-now" kinda way
When people have asked if i recommend it, my answer is usually: "well, it's goooood, but I can't say I'd recommend it unless you have a night alone to watch it"
I have to know my friends are into weird movies to rec it

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Right, and THERE WILL BE BLOOD needed more BLOOD and NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN needed more old men and TYRANNOSAUR needed an actual Tyrannosaur and THE TREE OF LIFE needed an actual tree [of life].



This is just painful to read. Thank God it isn't the slightest bit true.

Also, word of advice - steer clear of Paul Thomas Anderson's THE MASTER. Its got alotta scenes of Joaquin Phoenix doing nothing but furrowing his brow and staring off into the distance.
How about staying away from responses like this if you don't agree with someone?

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Old 09-25-2012, 01:53 PM   #243
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How about staying away from responses like this if you don't agree with someone?
Whiskey aimed his DRIVE critique at me so I responded.

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Old 09-25-2012, 02:15 PM   #244
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Drive lays bare the nature of heroism of the sort of love stricken protagonists you would see in Hollywood movies. Drive presents the hero to be as sociopathic in his brutality and lack of mercy as the bad guys. Enemies who are only his enemies because of his attachment to a woman. Were this woman a heiress of a mob empire he could be swinging his club of brutality to the same people his enemies did.

Drive is quite a thoughtful film that expresses its ideas in audiovisual terms than through exposition and dialogue.

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Whiskey aimed his DRIVE critique at me so I responded.
Respond to each other nicely. Both of you. Since we have a Drive thread, continue it there, since this isn't the forum for that movie.

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He directed the series premiere of CBS' Vegas that aired last night. So if you watched it, you saw another example of his work. Also you might've seen me in the background :P

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He directed the series premiere of CBS' Vegas that aired last night. So if you watched it, you saw another example of his work. Also you might've seen me in the background :P

Pilot episode of VEGAS Directed by James Mangold for CBS

http://www.cbs.com/shows/fall-premie...cvHETmFV9o8ccy

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How much did you use from previous development efforts under Christopher McQuarrie and Darren Aronofsky? I know you said ‘This is my movie’ and put your stamp on it…

It doesn’t actually work that way. It’s not like I come in and piss on something. [All Laugh] I mean, these are smart people and they have good ideas and you’re kind of getting…I’m not taking offense, I’m just trying to say I have a lot of respect for both those guys. The reality is there’s always books and things friends have been working on, and we also all talk to each other. I can’t tell you on other projects how many great ideas I’ve gotten from a friend who isn’t even credited with anything on the movie but just gave me a tip or something that occurred to them watching it. So you’re always sharing and you’re always passing things off. I spoke to Darren before I came on. But it was more that I was just in. When I came on I was just trying to make it make sense for me. But certainly there’s work from Chris’s script, there’s his stuff in the movie. It’s not like we tossed stuff away. We just kept developing the movie.

The real thing was, I see my job and as I write myself… I mean I worked on the script as well. What you are always trying to do to set down just an idea. I try and evangelize, like I did with you guys… like the first 5 words I wrote on the script were “Everyone I love will die.” This is a movie about that. So now what do I do? How do I follow my journey through the Claremont/Miller saga and touch upon that? Are there other people wrestling with issues of immortality? Are there other characters who wish they were dead but are mortal? Wish they could live forever but are mortal? Or are immortal and want to live forever and don’t have the same abilities? How many permutations of this idea can I populate this story with, in which you suddenly get something really rich? To me, that’s the best of what comic book films have done, is to exist in a pulpy universe but at the same time deal with deep themes. I mean Shakespeare played to the groundlings he didn’t just play to the royals. So who knows what makes a comic book a comic book? You know what I mean.

The reality is just you just kind of sit down and its not so much I’m trying to get rid of someone’s work or enhance someone elses work, I go ‘How can we set sail toward this theme? What is on this theme? What is a different theme and therefore taking me in the wrong direction? What’s going to carry me this way?

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Yeah 3:10 was awesome.
I loved it except for that ending. but overall a great film.

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just want to give props to mangold he was always a very good director especially with girl interrupted,walk the line,and 310 to yuma

but wolverine was expertly directed he let the scenes breathe especially the character moments aswell as the mariko/logan scenes he lets the audience soak in what was happening and didn't rush it and everything just flowed so well

also i must say he really is an actors director got jolie and witherspoon oscars,got phoenix an oscar nom

got jackman's best performance as the wolverine and got 2 great performances out of 2 first time actors in this film

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