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Old 10-23-2012, 12:49 PM   #26
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Prediction:

We will rehash this exact same thread in Thor: TDW. And CATWS. And Ant-Man. And Cap 3. And Thor 3. And TIH2. And Black Panther. And Ms. Marvel.

ad nauseam, ad nauseam.

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Old 10-23-2012, 12:56 PM   #27
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The attack on Tony doesn't seem like it's seen coming from miles, it's not like Hulk can just pop up right after the attack out of nowhere, or anyone else for that matter. Things like this happens in the comics all the time. Not even these superheroes can save everything and everyone at once. And threats, disasters and trouble comes all the time, all over the world and even universe.

That type of logic will be lost on some people. I'm sure they will be a reference to the other heroes though but it doesn't really have to be explained. They all went their separate ways. Banner and Tony might have mutual respect but don't have to live together.

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We will rehash this exact same thread in Thor: TDW. And CATWS. And Ant-Man. And Cap 3. And Thor 3. And TIH2. And Black Panther. And Ms. Marvel.

ad nauseam, ad nauseam.
No kidding. This is good fan talk here because we all know and most of us love the books and characters but I'm getting the vibe from around the Net that others are trying to use this factor to bash the film.


I kind of find it funny that all future Marvel films will have to contend with certain individuals wanting them to fail because of their past success. "Where are the rest of the Avengers?" seems to be the early battle cry as if they won't cover that in the plot. That's the price anyone pays for being at the summit I guess.

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Old 10-23-2012, 01:23 PM   #29
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What will keep the solo movies interesting is that they are exactly that, solo movies. It gives the chance to make different kind of stories and movies than the more big scale Avengers and team-up films.

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Sure a cameo here and there won't hurt.

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Old 10-23-2012, 02:23 PM   #31
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I don't know But I'm hoping for a reference,I don't need a cameo with Avengers/SHIELD presence But I'd like a reference to their where about!!

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Old 10-23-2012, 02:27 PM   #32
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I don't think we'll need to worry about the reasoning in the end of it; Marvel isn't exactly shying away from referencing the events of the Avengers, seeing as Tony is having a difficult time with it since.

"Nothing's been the same since New York."

I'm sure we'll get a reason as to why Tony can't call for backup.

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I don't think we'll need to worry about the reasoning in the end of it; Marvel isn't exactly shying away from referencing the events of the Avengers, seeing as Tony is having a difficult time with it since.

"Nothing's been the same since New York."

I'm sure we'll get a reason as to why Tony can't call for backup.
Feige has said it will be shown/discussed why SHIELD and the other Avengers can't help Tony out in his situation. The Mandarin is probably going to poison everyone against Tony, making him a criminal and a pariah that nobody wants to associate with.

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Old 10-23-2012, 04:58 PM   #34
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I hope the film isn't bogged down with explanations and references. And honestly I don't think it will be. I'm be glad to see Thor, Cap, and Tony in their solo movies again and will not focus on what the others are up to until their respective film is released.

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I hope the film isn't bogged down with explanations and references. And honestly I don't think it will be. I'm be glad to see Thor, Cap, and Tony in their solo movies again and will not focus on what the others are up to until their respective film is released.
It could also be just one or two lines where Tony says he can't trust anyone but Happy and/or Pepper.

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Old 10-23-2012, 05:36 PM   #36
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Seems there's plenty of Rhodey/WM/IP to go around....there's the shot of him in uniform inside the Oval Office, looking perplexed as cops riffle through the President's desk --- I strongly suspect that shot takes place *after* the attack on AF1, and the Prez might already be dead. Plus, they recently shot scenes of IM and WM in the Iron Patriot livery showing up at a Malibu beachfront restaurant/bar --- dunno where that happens during the movie.
I hope your right. My fear is, to make Mandarin a real threat some folks are gonna die. Happy seems to be most likely, but I wonder about Rhodey. I think War Machine will be done after the AF1 attack, only because it's clear that after Tony's armory blows up, he has the Mark VIII, that's malfunctioned and that's it. Otherwise he could just go borrow the WM armor.

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It could also be just one or two lines where Tony says he can't trust anyone but Happy and/or Pepper.
It's clear from Avengers, why he wouldn't trust Fury. In fact I wouldn't doubt Tony holding a grudge against Fury for Coulson's death. The last interaction between Fury and Tony, is him with his back turned walking off the bridge. If he would want anyone's help it would be Steve's, but I'm sure there will be a reason for why he can't.

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Remember Tony broke into SHIELD's computers. He would know exactly what kind of countermeasures to take in order to keep them from spying on him. They probably won't even know what's really going on. The other heroes are busy with what's going on in their movies, I'm sure.

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Where are the Avengers?
I'm not currently tracking their whereabouts.

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Well, do you see the Avengers constantly showing up in the Iron Man comics whenever Tony Stark ran into trouble? Of course not. Then why should we expect the movieverse to do otherwise? Obviously SHIELD and other Avengers cannot babysit one another, and they all have their own lives to live and troubles to take care of. Besides, as Stark said in The Avengers, he doesn't work well with others, and we should not expect him to suddenly wanting their presence all the time. No matter what the problem is, I'm sure Stark can figure it out by himself eventually.

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I'm not currently tracking their whereabouts.
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We will rehash this exact same thread in Thor: TDW. And CATWS. And Ant-Man. And Cap 3. And Thor 3. And TIH2. And Black Panther. And Ms. Marvel.

ad nauseam, ad nauseam.
Yeah it's already gotten old. Hell it got old back when people were whining about Rhodes not showing up in Avengers.

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Old 10-26-2012, 02:48 PM   #43
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Stark probably and foolishly has stuff to prevent Shield from spying on him.

Or maybe the mandarin has really good tech
Yeah, people seem to ignore the fact that Stark literally hacked into and stole all of SHIELD's secure files and had J.A.R.V.I.S. running the whole ship for quite a while. That's a LOT of intel.

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Until we hear otherwise, shouldn't we assume that Iron Man 3, Dark World, and Winter Solider all take place in roughly the same time frame? And the hulk is the hulk, can't exactly be counted on for regular support.
I'd assume so, although it's to early to tell specifics. They created a very specific timeline in Phase 1 that you can google search thats a good read, so I'm sure they'll make one for phase 2.
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Well, do you see the Avengers constantly showing up in the Iron Man comics whenever Tony Stark ran into trouble? Of course not. Then why should we expect the movieverse to do otherwise? Obviously SHIELD and other Avengers cannot babysit one another, and they all have their own lives to live and troubles to take care of. Besides, as Stark said in The Avengers, he doesn't work well with others, and we should not expect him to suddenly wanting their presence all the time. No matter what the problem is, I'm sure Stark can figure it out by himself eventually.
Exactly.
That's why the whole "where the other avengers, hmmm?" argument is a dumb one; just wait and you'll find out in their respective films. It works in the comics and it will definitely work on screen. Marvel knows what they're doing.

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Why did people come into a thread called "Where are the Avengers" to complain about people suggesting hypotheses for where the Avengers are?

Would you go into the Iron man fan art thread and complain about all the fan art?

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I'm sure some of these movies (as far as the time within the MCU) will be happening at or around the same time. The most interesting thing as far as any Avengers whereabouts, to me, will be Banner. Because of the ending of the Avengers, I would hope, above all others, we get something in reference/cameo form of him. Personally, I think they'll explain him away, but still it would be sweet to see him in some form or fashion

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I'm sure some of these movies (as far as the time within the MCU) will be happening at or around the same time. The most interesting thing as far as any Avengers whereabouts, to me, will be Banner. Because of the ending of the Avengers, I would hope, above all others, we get something in reference/cameo form of him. Personally, I think they'll explain him away, but still it would be sweet to see him in some form or fashion
With Banner, if he's not in a cameo or mentioned by anyone else, I'm just going with he went back to India to care for sick people.

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I don't really see the point to this question, I mean as others have said before, it's a solo-venture, the other heroes are busy doing their own hero-stuff. Thor can't be on Midgard helping Stark while he's defending the Nine-Realms; Captain America and Hawkeye are probably off in a mission dealing with their own threats and trying to solve the mystery of the Winter Soldier; Banner is still out doing what he does best: helping people while not hulking-out. The only two members people could bring up are Black Widow, Fury, and SHIELD since they did feature prominently in the past 2 films, but that isn't to say they need to be here. This is Tony Stark's story. Unless the entire world's gone crazy you don't really need to bring everyone together at all.

They each have their own niche in the cinematic universe, this is Iron Man's.

Plus, considering the trailer, it seems as though Stark is going off the radar in this anyway.

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No kidding. This is good fan talk here because we all know and most of us love the books and characters but I'm getting the vibe from around the Net that others are trying to use this factor to bash the film.

I kind of find it funny that all future Marvel films will have to contend with certain individuals wanting them to fail because of their past success. "Where are the rest of the Avengers?" seems to be the early battle cry as if they won't cover that in the plot. That's the price anyone pays for being at the summit I guess.
Yes-- that sort of nay-saying mentality is really tiring. Good GOD do people take these to the extreme! It's either so awesome that you have to wet your pants or so terrible that you've got gas. Either one or the other. That sort of extremism should be left for the political parties.

I mean, I guess I sort of understand why a lot of people wanted to compare The Avengers with The Dark Knight Rises, I guess I sort of understand all the fan-rage over "camp-Whedon vs. camp-Nolan" but it's puerile. We don't need that. And now you're bringing up that come Phase 2 people will be waiting for it to fail and not live up with Phase 1, even those who loved the first films to a fault...and.... it makes sense. It's what we'll be seeing soon

It's like when the entire internet ganged up and said how DC lost big time when they didn't hire Whedon the week after Avengers hit. I get it, it was their loss but that's sort of old-news (three years over?) You have the Avengers now, a movie that was on a much bigger scale, and yet the fans retorted to that old DC vs. Marvel debate, culminating into the discussion seeping into the celebrities themselves when the cast of Avengers were bringing it up.

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Steve is in a clandestine mission tracking down the Winter Soldier.

Thor is stuck in Asgard while the Tesseract repairs the Bifrost.

Bruce briefly stayed with Stark before going back to doctoring for the less fortunate.

Natasha and Barton are requested to not interfere.


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Cap(BW&Hawkeye) are off dealing with WS, Thor - obvious. If Bruce is off in hiding in a remote place without access to world news then that's definitely understandable why he couldn't help Tony. Besides depending on the story though, it seems to me his whereabouts aren't even known after the Malibu attack. I just hope they give some kind of nod or heads up to where Bruce is or what he's been up to between Avengers and Avengers 2. Everybody else is obvious though. I'm sure they will throw it in somewhere in a non tacky way.

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