The SuperHeroHype Forums  

Go Back   The SuperHeroHype Forums > Captain America > Captain America: The Winter Soldier

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-30-2012, 11:23 AM   #76
BullMcGiveny
Side-Kick
 
BullMcGiveny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,285
Default Re: Winter Soldier: Bionic arm or not?

Domino masks are stupid. Balaclava or nothing.

I hope they ditch the '90s hair, too.

BullMcGiveny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2012, 11:29 AM   #77
Dark Raven
The Gal from Themysicra
 
Dark Raven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Tall and tan and young and lovely
Posts: 17,988
Default Re: Winter Soldier: Bionic arm or not?

If WS is a covert operative, then he can really dress however he likes, to get the mission done. So perhaps Cap first encounters him while WS is dressed up in a halloween outfit (perhaps he's going to a fancy dress party to assassinate someone and needs to blend in) and hence he could wear the domino mask, long hair and exact comic costume. Because everyone is dressed up, that can add to why Cap can't instantly recognise him.

__________________
Quote:
Anne Hathaway: "You did not just ask me that!! What a forward young man you are!!! My goodness!!"
Dark Raven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2012, 12:11 PM   #78
Mako
Galactic Crusier
 
Mako's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The Multiverse
Posts: 5,812
Default Re: Winter Soldier: Bionic arm or not?

Bionic Arm?? Hell Yes

Mako is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2012, 01:16 PM   #79
TheHeatKitchen
Side-Kick
 
TheHeatKitchen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 1,099
Default Re: Winter Soldier: Bionic arm or not?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Raven View Post
I think you should get the action surprise first when Cap is battling WS. That will make him less likely to think it's Bucky. Then, when he does unmask him, the horror of the situation will hit him when he realises what they've done to Bucky. If nothing has been done in terms of mutilation and arm replacement, then it's not as big a horror to Cap.
Yeah, I can understand that. My only concern comes with the people that already know he's Bucky. You'd be relying on the emotional surprise to be big, but would only surprise half of the crowd.

just a small concern.

TheHeatKitchen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2012, 01:24 PM   #80
Dark Raven
The Gal from Themysicra
 
Dark Raven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Tall and tan and young and lovely
Posts: 17,988
Default Re: Winter Soldier: Bionic arm or not?

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheHeatKitchen View Post
Yeah, I can understand that. My only concern comes with the people that already know he's Bucky. You'd be relying on the emotional surprise to be big, but would only surprise half of the crowd.

just a small concern.
That's the case with any literary twists or shocks which are translated into film - eg Gwen Stacy dying (every comic fan will see that coming) or even Vesper betraying Bond in Casino Royale. I don't think it takes away from the enjoyment in the end though.

__________________
Quote:
Anne Hathaway: "You did not just ask me that!! What a forward young man you are!!! My goodness!!"
Dark Raven is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2012, 02:38 PM   #81
TheHeatKitchen
Side-Kick
 
TheHeatKitchen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 1,099
Default Re: Winter Soldier: Bionic arm or not?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Raven View Post
That's the case with any literary twists or shocks which are translated into film - eg Gwen Stacy dying (every comic fan will see that coming) or even Vesper betraying Bond in Casino Royale. I don't think it takes away from the enjoyment in the end though.
I can't argue with that. Just some ideas. Either way could work. I personally like the idea of Cap knowing its Bucky the second time around, trying to plead with him but not being able to break through the brainwashing.

don't you just love how two people can have a civilized debate without resorting to name calling?

TheHeatKitchen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-30-2012, 02:45 PM   #82
BullMcGiveny
Side-Kick
 
BullMcGiveny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,285
Default Re: Winter Soldier: Bionic arm or not?

I like the idea of showing that Bucky is the Winter Soldier from the get go. No surprise. Just the tension of anticipating Steve's reaction when he realizes his enemy is his long fallen friend.

BullMcGiveny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-31-2012, 12:42 AM   #83
herolee10
S.W. Mourner
 
herolee10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 15,000
Default Re: Winter Soldier: Bionic arm or not?

There's definitely a lot of material that they could explore with the fact that Bucky is the Winter Soldier. They go go from themes/topics:

1. Steve is no longer alone any more in terms of being the only person from his time who's still in his prime and currently alive.

2. While Steve was slumbering within the ice, Bucky was leading a life where he was being manipulated into being the ultimate weapon for whoever was pulling his strings; how Steve and Bucky's paths in life took such a big and different turn from each other.

herolee10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2012, 06:46 PM   #84
Hunter Rider
Ronin
SHH! Administrator
 
Hunter Rider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Camp Manuel
Posts: 136,861
Default Re: Winter Soldier: Bionic arm or not?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jaqua99 View Post
to put it simply, yes, because it's an iconic part of his physical character, there is nothing else to it, nothing to think deeply, and consider things. Its a part of his character, they need to do it. Period
This sums my views up perfectly, I don't want to see him watered down visually.

Quote:
Originally Posted by scifiwolf View Post
I posed this question in the news thread, but never got anything going. I'll ask it again here, since this is a more focused topic.

Would you guys want to see the Extremis nanotech tied into Bucky's arm? I think it would provide a great link between the films that's not necessarily only there to set up another team-up scenario.
It needn't be linked to Extremis as the timeline doesn't really fit unless we see him actually get the arm during the course of the movie. However it could be linked back to work done years ago by Howard Stark.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Holt View Post
i say no to domino mask.
i think splinter cell
/metal gear solid googles should be the way to go. In the context of the scene the goggles get damaged or there's a flash/flashbang and Bucky take them off.
Cap - "Bucky?"
WS - "Who the hell is Bucky?"
Agreed!

__________________
thinkmcflythink.com
Movie fans, hop in your Delorean and check it out!

"Now this life is etched in black but I wont be looking back, the rain washed out the tracks, I'll never find again"

Hunter Rider is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2012, 06:53 PM   #85
Hypestyle
Side-Kick
 
Hypestyle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Detroit, MI
Posts: 5,794
Default Re: Winter Soldier: Bionic arm or not?

I wonder will there be a passing reference to the tech-arm costing $6 million (circa 1945)... heh..

Hypestyle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-02-2012, 07:25 PM   #86
TheWatcher
Dapper
 
TheWatcher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 2,768
Default Re: Winter Soldier: Bionic arm or not?

He HAS to have the arm at some point.

It's his trademark, like Cap's shield.

__________________
"I have this theory that, depending on your attitude, your life doesn't have to become this ridiculous charade that it seems so many people end up living."

-Christian Bale
TheWatcher is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-06-2012, 01:50 PM   #87
Destructus86
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 4,467
Default Re: Winter Soldier: Bionic arm or not?

Bionic Arm is a big yes and I could see Marvel doing it....now if this was a Nolan film we would NEVER get anything like that. Just saying...

__________________
Ephesians 4:2
Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love.
Destructus86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2012, 05:43 PM   #88
GothamInAshes
Gotham's Reckoning
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 21
Default Re: Winter Soldier: Bionic arm or not?

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWatcher View Post
He HAS to have the arm at some point.

It's his trademark, like Cap's shield.
hmm...im a little of both yes and no on this question. yes because youre right, the arm with the red star on it is the Winter Soldier's trademark. however, i dont think they'd use the Soviets being behind the creation of the Winter Soldier like it is in the comics. they barely mentioned Nazis in Captain America: the First Avenger, so i seriously doubt they'll mention the Soviets. i think that the Red Skull will come back (cuz we all know he isnt dead ) and Hydra will be behind it all.

and im saying no because the way it seemed when Bucky fell in The First Avenger, he couldnt have had the entire arm torn off like that. to counter that, i'd say that perhaps on his fall into the water, Bucky's arm was crushed so bad (like that one movie...cant remember its title, but it had James Franco in it ) that it had to be amputated. just a thought.

GothamInAshes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-27-2012, 10:36 PM   #89
BullMcGiveny
Side-Kick
 
BullMcGiveny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,285
Default Re: Winter Soldier: Bionic arm or not?

Quote:
Originally Posted by GothamInAshes View Post
hmm...im a little of both yes and no on this question. yes because youre right, the arm with the red star on it is the Winter Soldier's trademark. however, i dont think they'd use the Soviets being behind the creation of the Winter Soldier like it is in the comics. they barely mentioned Nazis in Captain America: the First Avenger, so i seriously doubt they'll mention the Soviets. i think that the Red Skull will come back (cuz we all know he isnt dead ) and Hydra will be behind it all.

and im saying no because the way it seemed when Bucky fell in The First Avenger, he couldnt have had the entire arm torn off like that. to counter that, i'd say that perhaps on his fall into the water, Bucky's arm was crushed so bad (like that one movie...cant remember its title, but it had James Franco in it ) that it had to be amputated. just a thought.
Nazis have a huge stigma attached to them. They're regarded as the most evil people in history.

The Soviets don't, and they aren't.

Besides, HYDRA DID have Nazi origins.

Similarly, Winter Soldier had past ties to the USSR, but at present is working for a businessman who happened to have once been a KGB officer.

BullMcGiveny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-28-2012, 06:29 PM   #90
GothamInAshes
Gotham's Reckoning
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 21
Default Re: Winter Soldier: Bionic arm or not?

Quote:
Originally Posted by BullMcGiveny View Post
Nazis have a huge stigma attached to them. They're regarded as the most evil people in history.

The Soviets don't, and they aren't.

Besides, HYDRA DID have Nazi origins.

Similarly, Winter Soldier had past ties to the USSR, but at present is working for a businessman who happened to have once been a KGB officer.
yeah i forgot about Lukin...

GothamInAshes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2012, 04:00 AM   #91
bert19
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: London, England
Posts: 135
Default Re: Winter Soldier: Bionic arm or not?

The arm must be an important feature if only to make him more physically dangerous in combat.
I mean, not to put a downer on Bucky's skill set, but without that arm and it's power, could you see Bucky matching Cap in unarmed combat? Don't think I can.

bert19 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2012, 11:33 AM   #92
GothamInAshes
Gotham's Reckoning
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 21
Default Re: Winter Soldier: Bionic arm or not?

Quote:
Originally Posted by bert19 View Post
The arm must be an important feature if only to make him more physically dangerous in combat.
I mean, not to put a downer on Bucky's skill set, but without that arm and it's power, could you see Bucky matching Cap in unarmed combat? Don't think I can.
that brings up a good point too. that said, i am leaning more towards yes on "should Bucky have a bionic arm or not?".

have they confirmed that Sebastian Stan will return for The Winter Soldier?

GothamInAshes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2012, 11:42 AM   #93
BullMcGiveny
Side-Kick
 
BullMcGiveny's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 1,285
Default Re: Winter Soldier: Bionic arm or not?

A couple of days after the title was announced, it was announced that he would reprise the role.

BullMcGiveny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2012, 10:00 PM   #94
GothamInAshes
Gotham's Reckoning
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 21
Default Re: Winter Soldier: Bionic arm or not?

Quote:
Originally Posted by BullMcGiveny View Post
A couple of days after the title was announced, it was announced that he would reprise the role.
cool thanks for that! i wonder how he'd look with long hair??

im super excited for this film!!

GothamInAshes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2012, 11:52 PM   #95
jaqua99
....I need a horse!
 
jaqua99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: dont you worry about that
Posts: 6,003
Default Re: Winter Soldier: Bionic arm or not?

if he even has long hair

__________________
hi
jaqua99 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2013, 06:00 AM   #96
Brian Braddock
R.I.P. '96 Y.N.W.A.
 
Brian Braddock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Great Britain
Posts: 13,383
Default Re: Winter Soldier: Bionic arm or not?

Bionic all the way. In fact, I dont see a reason why not to have the arm. Marvel Studios have shown that they are more than willing to have some of the more fantastical elements from the source material translated to screen when other people working for other studios (Nolan, I'm looking at you) dismiss them.

__________________
Klaus Hergesheimer - checking radiation shields....
Brian Braddock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2013, 06:24 PM   #97
Ash Talon
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 210
Default Re: Winter Soldier: Bionic arm or not?

Yes to the bionic arm. Or they could make it some kind of armor like Thor's or more like an exoskeleton/frame that enhances his normal (or atrophied) arm.

Regarding the mask, I don't think he needs a domino mask. I can see him wearing a full mask, balaclava, or a mask that has the hair exposed while on a mission. Maybe while tangling with Cap for the first time, the mask is damaged a bit which exposes part of Bucky's face.

I like the idea of having a sequence (mission or chase) that goes through a masquerade party. WS could grab a mask off someone to help hide his identity so he can escape. It would be a nice wink to fans without alienating new viewers with the cheesiness of a domino mask.

Ash Talon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2013, 12:36 AM   #98
Hawkingbird
I want to be Kate Bishop
 
Hawkingbird's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: With the Hawkeyes
Posts: 5,733
Default Re: Winter Soldier: Bionic arm or not?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jaqua99 View Post
if he even has long hair
I want it long when he's a brainwashed villain, not when he goes back to sanity.

__________________
"Turkey sucks and you suck, and who made you boss?"
Hawkingbird is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2013, 03:20 PM   #99
Guerrilla
Side-Kick
 
Guerrilla's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 672
Default Re: Winter Soldier: Bionic arm or not?

For WS mask...something like the circled image on the right could work. Though, its a bit too similar to catwoman's gear. I do dig the Balaclava idea.

Guerrilla is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2013, 03:32 PM   #100
Majik1387
Casting Extraodinaire ;D
 
Majik1387's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Theme Park central
Posts: 38,002
Default Re: Winter Soldier: Bionic arm or not?

I'd rather he not be given the Nolan Catwoman treatment.

Majik1387 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:46 AM.

monitoring_string = "dee460792f24517621e3ca080805de7e"
Contact Us - Mobile - SuperHeroHype - ComingSoon.net - Shock Till You Drop - Lost Password - Clear Cookies - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Top - AdChoices


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SuperHeroHype.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.