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Old 10-30-2012, 04:22 PM   #1
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Hello people,

Strangely enough I like this movie for what it's worth. What was wrong? One big thing was they should've padded the suit for the actor and he should've had less dialog.
However, when Superman comes back and flies over Metropolis - the fx are better than SIV...so...you can stomp this movie entirely (done on a quasi-non-existant budget).
I also totally loved that the team gave us for free the soundtrack. It's always fun to find new variations of the Superman Theme. I loved the Fortress music and when Clark/Superman rips his shirt (notice he doesn't have the cape underneath) - the sound of him taking off is wonderful.

Any thoughts you'd like to share, I'd like to read and I'd be very respectful of your opinions even if they are not like mine.

Thanks for reading my gibberishsmo.

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Old 10-31-2012, 03:40 PM   #2
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It just didn't work, the main problem for me was how boring it was. Plus the guy who made it is a douche, he wouldn't accept any criticism of the film on his FB page n deleted any bad comments.

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Old 10-31-2012, 04:14 PM   #3
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Hi BH/HHH,

Glad I had a comment on this - any comment is a good comment.
Would you believe I'm not FB? I swear - although it might change in the future.
If the guy who made this is a douche and wouldn't accept criticism - it doesn't show in the movie. But...I will agree it's not a good thing. "Critics show us the error of our ways" or something like that said by Ben Franklin and repeated in one of the Smallville shows.
The movie (is it a movie - it's a fan movie with no budget or so) departs from (probably) too many traditional stuff. But they have a wink to almost all characters (except Jimmy maybe - if memory serves). The credits in space, the music - it's all innocent fun.
I think the "boring" stuff would stem from the fact that they don't have money to afford much. For example, if Kal-El still have super-speed, why doesn't he use it in the parking lot to fight the 3-5 thugs? And there are a few plot holes - at the end - Lex jr knows who Superman is...although...it would also be the case with a ton of people in Smallville.
Like I said, if they'd put some muscle padding in the suit and with more money had more super-heroics - it might have come up as a something nice.

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Hi BH/HHH,

Glad I had a comment on this - any comment is a good comment.
Would you believe I'm not FB? I swear - although it might change in the future.
If the guy who made this is a douche and wouldn't accept criticism - it doesn't show in the movie. But...I will agree it's not a good thing. "Critics show us the error of our ways" or something like that said by Ben Franklin and repeated in one of the Smallville shows.
The movie (is it a movie - it's a fan movie with no budget or so) departs from (probably) too many traditional stuff. But they have a wink to almost all characters (except Jimmy maybe - if memory serves). The credits in space, the music - it's all innocent fun.
I think the "boring" stuff would stem from the fact that they don't have money to afford much. For example, if Kal-El still have super-speed, why doesn't he use it in the parking lot to fight the 3-5 thugs? And there are a few plot holes - at the end - Lex jr knows who Superman is...although...it would also be the case with a ton of people in Smallville.
Like I said, if they'd put some muscle padding in the suit and with more money had more super-heroics - it might have come up as a something nice.
The creators should have done something different with their money, the thing s I know it's hard to make a fan film interesting but that's why the best ones have been short. It's hard to take fan films seriously.

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I will agree that if they'd made the film shorter they could have invested the money (because time = money) into more credible or more iconic stuff. For example saving the kid from the river was not very moving - as compared to Reeve saving the kid at Niagara Falls. But I am comparing oranges to tomatoes because of budget constraints.
I guess we could say they were over-ambitious? Maybe they lacked funding at some point (then we could compare to SIV - lol).
I will say this though, I'm more happy that they have done this movie than if they hadn't done it.
Pls write back - it's very interesting to read your thoughts - promise - no sarcasm.

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I will agree that if they'd made the film shorter they could have invested the money (because time = money) into more credible or more iconic stuff. For example saving the kid from the river was not very moving - as compared to Reeve saving the kid at Niagara Falls. But I am comparing oranges to tomatoes because of budget constraints.
I guess we could say they were over-ambitious? Maybe they lacked funding at some point (then we could compare to SIV - lol).
I will say this though, I'm more happy that they have done this movie than if they hadn't done it.
Pls write back - it's very interesting to read your thoughts - promise - no sarcasm.

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Yeah of course it's apples and oranges but I dont think there's ever an excuse for bad writing. I just thought there whole general idea was a bad one, it tried so hard to be like the Donnerverse and it failed miserably. It's really unfortunate but Superman is so hard to do without money, I think they'd have been better off just making a film about something else or a hero with less powers cause depose ring Superman was a really bad plot point, and it'd already been done in the Donnerverse with SII.

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Hello again,

It is true that Superman requires a lot of money - heat vision, flying and you know the whole routine. You also need good money to hire a good writer(s) to write all of this in and make it coherent. And then again - is the public ripe and what other movies are coming out at the same time. I love, adore - Superman is my fave character of all time but...I'd have a tough time writing something "epic" (as Donner has done).
Superman is not just the run of the mill character - it's a love story with his gazillion of fans.
I don't think it's "impossible" to do a fan film on him because...I don't believe in "impossible" but...it's highly improbable. But, I've seen stranger in my life.
The producer (sorry don't have the name) of Superman Requiem was obviously a fan of Donner's work and wanted to "extend" the series. I think he succeeded within the confines of what he had - you can watch that movie and say "ok, it's a new face but, it's the Fortress that I know of, it's the way Superman/Clark switch hair, same suit, ect...). However, the movie bombs if you take the previous entries and put it on par. Except maybe flying fx compared with SIV. De powering of Superman is an homage (call it a rip-off - I won't be offended or anything) to the original movies or in my opinion, mostly a cost-cutting effective way. In any case, I also agree with you that there is way too much talk in there by depowered Superman. If this movie had come up in 1960 - it would've been a hit. In 2012...meh...we are too used to having a big revelation-climactic moment every 5 minutes.
I'm very happy that we could revisit one more time the crystal Fortress and so on. Because now that Kidder is 65, Reeve gone, Routh is not coming back and Crowe dressed as Sir Lancelot - we all know it's over. There won't even be a Williams glint in the movie (which I agree because it's a reboot) and I think that it's best they built their own mythology and not have any of the old actors have a cameo (i.e. Smallville who would have tons of them, SR had Larson and Neil, Cain's version, even STM had Neil and Alyn). I do understand that sometimes there are so many knots to unravel that it's better to take the scissors and cut everything but it still stings.
Sorry got carried away.
Superman Requiem was a nice little jewel who could be inserted in a future Superman dvd extra and give compensation for the people who worked on it (although it will never happen). People on the internet have been too mean - and has Reeve once said about SIV - instead of criticizing it, he should do something about it and that was to come up with a story that HE would like. And then, we got SIV who was the weakest but who gave us one last cast reunion. So, maybe Superman Requiem was the after shadow of the Superman movies?

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