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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masters_of_Evil I think I might put that one in my "wishful thinking" rumors bucket for now. ![]() Last edited by elizah72; 11-10-2012 at 07:25 AM. |
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![]() The two comments I have about the idea of the Masters of Evil: 1. Well, it's one way to get Amora (the Enchantress) into the story. 2. They need a better team name. 3. Could Alice Krige play one of the Masters? ![]() Edit: I guess that's three comments. Last edited by American Maid; 11-10-2012 at 09:24 AM. |
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And if anyone could pull it off and still have it be a good story, it's Joss, but seeing how Joss has said how difficult writing the ensemble action film Serenity was, and seeing how he told himself he'd not do that again, then promptly hit his head and "made a Homer Simpson noise" when he was in the middle of writing Avengers, I'd be a little surprised if he willingly subjected himself to doing an ensemble villain cast alongside the ensemble hero cast. Good story and characterization means too much to Joss. It would be extremely difficult to pull off, and that made even more difficult with him needing to keep in line with what the individual films are doing with the characters, and keeping track of powers and story arcs with all of that. Extremely difficult task there. Edit to add: and along the lines of what I just said, just found this... "Ever since confirmation of the director’s return, Whedon has been surprisingly candid about how he intends to approach the superhero follow-up - in spite of the usual secrecy surrounding Marvel projects. Even though he’s keeping plot details under wraps, the director is promising a “deeper” character story in The Avengers 2 – one that is supported by the respective efforts of his companion Marvel cinematic universe “phase two” directors." http://screenrant.com/avengers-2-jos...rvel-universe/ so a large ensemble villian cast would again be very very difficult to squeeze in there and still be able to dig "deeper" into the characters stories. Last edited by elizah72; 11-10-2012 at 09:02 AM. |
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The team will be different from the comics, no doubt. Here's why. With as packed as Thor: The Dark World is, I don't THINK the enchantress and executioner are appearing. MAYBE THEY ARE! That would be awesome for sure, but as of right now, I don't think so. Most likely, this team will be a combination of villains being introduced into the mcu for phase 2. We already got abomination in custody. We are getting manderin and radioactive man from ironman. Crossbones and zemo from cap, and kurse and malekith (though he'ss probably die) and from thor. it will probably be a variation of those
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I've been meaning to ask this: I thought after Kurse gets his revenge, he becomes peace-loving and even is made an honorary citizen of Asgard. If that's the case, how is it that he stays a villain?
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At this point, aspiring CBM oracle RogerWardell is just throwing darts in the dark and hoping something will surely stick. I don't think there's a chance in hell that the MOE will show up in any format in Avengers 2.
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And yes, as Sam said, I am not FULLY on board with it, grain of salt, but there are reasons to believe him, I am not saying he's 100% telling the truth, but I have plenty of reasons to give him the benefit of the doubt. Yeah, there have been too many posters trolling us. But here is the thing with this guy, this isn't his first rumor, he's come out and said multiple things, and h is rumors that he stated ALL turned out to be true, the shield TV series falcon and widow being in cap 2 Crossbones to be in cap 2 (it may have been the same guy who said the actor as well) and Manderin being the villain for ironman 3 before marvel announced it yeah, he had the big thing of predictions a week or so ago, and sure, anyone could have gathered that conclusion, but right now, those are logical rumors, and he has a good record with these previous ones ^^ I'm open minded, and because of his prior rumors, I am more than willing to give him then benefit of the doubt. Quote:
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That would be different from cliche, so that would be better.
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which is why he MAY not die at all
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![]() However, it would be an interesting twist if instead of killing Kurse, Thor somehow gets Kurse to turn good and he winds up being the Dark Elves new leader, leading them into a new more peaceful age. This would be a HUGE accomplishment for Thor (especially in Odin's eyes who would probably rather see Thor learn to solve these types of issues peacefully) And lets not forget someone is probably going to have to help Thor defeat this Beyonder/Krige/Tesseract/whatever character that changes Kurse in the first place. That could be what Kurse turns against instead of Malekith here. Last edited by elizah72; 11-11-2012 at 12:29 PM. |
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So in that telling of the story, That Which Changed Algrim is not an ongoing threat. But they possibly could make it so in the film. (I don't know if this is something that Surtur or his agent might try to pull off, for example.) It could up the tension, which would be good. |
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I'd bet Surtur ends up turning Algrim into Kurse, who at that point is out for blood, thor and malekith. I know loki vs malekith and thor vs kurse would be nice, but I don't see that happening. The dynamic between Kurse and Malekith is TOO big to leave that alone ![]() But Kurse and Malekith, that's just something too tight to break up. Kurse will be the one that kills Malekith, if I am wrong, I will eat dirt, and video tape myself doing so to prove it ![]() But you see what I mean? It's too important to their character to stray away from that, Loki's redemption will be fighting Surtur, as it is in the comics, which this movie is based on. PLUS it'd be better so see Loki fighting along side his brother and father against this enemy trying to DESTROY the 9 realms. Ends with Odin dying, and Thor and loki coming together. Loki still helps to save the 9 realms, and he is still loki. Thor becomes king. But kurse and malekith's "relationship" can't just be ignored be regarding Kurse and what you said aabout thor convincing him, that would actually be great. I really like that. Cause Kurse isn't EVIL persay, just out for revenge, once he gets his, and then becomes leader of the dark elves, well it comes full circle as a character arc. Which is why I think it is CRUCIAL that he kills Malekith
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Think of it this way, if Malekith is responsible for killing
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and it wouldnt necessarily mean total redemption for Loki, it is only a gesture that he still cares for his family, and could be seen as a bit of an olive branch I suppose to Thor. It is still revenge though, and that is not usually seen as redemptive. When Lucas first titled Return of the Jedi, it was Revenge of the Jedi, but then it was changed because Jedi are basically a force of good and do not take revenge. It was however, Revenge of the Sith. ![]() The stuff with Surtur or something similar could still happen in Thor 3. And I wont hold you to the eatin' dirt and taping it thing. ![]() Edit: Note I've reposted this in the Kurse thread in order to try to keep the conversations in the relevant threads. Last edited by elizah72; 11-11-2012 at 02:06 PM. |
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I really can't see Krige being anyone other than Hela. I am curious as to who she'll be though.
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it may be another female character that turns into the Beyonder/Tesseract thingy if that pans out. In any case, it seems likely we may see both characters the more I think about it. Editing to add: and as some of you may see I'm trying to move some of the Kurse discussion to the Kurse thread and the Jane relevant discussion to the Jane thread so others interested will see it and so we can try to get back to who we think Alice may be playing here. My top 3 guesses for Alice's part in order are Hela, Beyonder/Kosmos/Tesseract/Cosmic Cube character for a least some of it, or Farbauti (Loki's Frost Giant mother, if he is full frost giant after all) Last edited by elizah72; 11-11-2012 at 03:32 PM. |
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But I mean, its kurse and malekith, that's such a big part of malekith's character, I would be dumbfounded if they reduce kurse to simply a brute to fight thor. Especially with the arc this is based off. There is potential for a great story, with multiple character arcs being able to be fulfilled, Kurse's oppritunity is there to go full circle around and complete that character arc. I see no reason for that to change. But I guess we will just have to agree to disagree...per usual shocker :P but that is okay, you are one of the few I can disagree with and not feel aggrivated lol
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It's pretty far-fetched but what if she ends up being Enchantress?
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