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Because Batman Begins did such a good job of establishing Bale as Batman they could shift focus to The Joker/Harvey Dent.

Man of Steel needs to establish Cavill as Superman. Now, I hate to say this but I think it's more important for Cavill to have charisma and a screen presence than to be a great actor. This isn't Daniel Day-Lewis performing Abraham Lincoln. From what I've seen of Cavill he appears more charismatic in interviews and being charming around fans than his actual performances in movies.

I think with a good script/direction he has a chance to exude his natural charisma which would help his performance.
Brandon Routh was similar in that regard. He did better with public relations and press with representing Superman offscreen than onscreen.

I think the focus of Man of Steel is on Kryptonians VS Humanity, and whether the world is ready to encounter aliens. The SDCC trailer had alienation as a key theme.

That being said, I think the main focus will be split between Crowe, Shannon and Cavill, and I'm banking on Shannon being the standout performance. Hopefully this film's 'Heath Ledger' type.

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I think it's important for the audience to believe Cavill is Supeman even before he puts on the costume.

Just look at Batman Begins, Iron Man, and the last Spiderman movie. They spent time focusing on the character before they put on the costume/armor. You have to bond with the actor before they even take flight.

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I think it's important for the audience to believe Cavill is Supeman even before he puts on the costume.

Just look at Batman Begins, Iron Man, and the last Spiderman movie. They spent time focusing on the character before they put on the costume/armor. You have to bond with the actor before they even take flight.
I agree, and i have high hopes the script will be good, i mean David Goyer wrote it.

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That's why they have clark doing heroic things before he become superman.The oil rig rescue.The tornado rescue, he was saving the kid.Them the only ones we know about so far.It definitly will be many more heroic moments before he become superman.One thing forsure, This movie will not lack action.Action will sure be on krypton, action before he become superman and when he become superman that's big time action between him zod and co.

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The Alaskan version of Clark Kent and his self-discovery will provide the character stuff. But I wonder how much screen time they will provide for Daily Planet Clark. They only spent 11 days in Chicago with the Willis Tower and Board of Trade acting as the Daily Planet. Considering all the stuff that seems to be going on in the film---Krypton, Smallville childhood, Alaska, Lois, Zod, Superman actions scenes---this has to be a 2 and half hour movie.

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I doubt it will be that long.

Superman Returns took a lot of heat for being too long for WB execs.

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If it's two and a half hours of entertainment than you can get away with it. Superman Returns was two and half hours of boredom.

Now I don't think you can exceed two and half hours.

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I'd say it's probably going to barley be over two hours.

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Then I think his Smallville childhood has to be just some quick flashbacks. That will save on time.

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the Daily Planet scenes will focus mostly on lois in mos.She'll be working at the daily planet before he become superman.

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I do have this feeling, that we probably won't see ALOT of Daily Planet, who knows though.

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Batman begins was 2 hr 20 min.I don't see how mos can be lower then 2 hr 20 min.

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Superman have another layer to his origins.And that's krypton.

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As I said during a previous post a while back I think Lois will be introduced seperately and then have her storyline merge with Clark's. That's different than in the original movie when she was introduced along with Daily Planet Clark.

As we've seen from the old set photos Lois is also in Alaska at some point. I'm guessing she's on the trail of some unsual phenomenom but doesn't actually cross paths with Clark until they're both in Metropolis.

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This movie will blow Superman Returns out the water when it come down to action.

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Garfield is a fantastic actor, imo. Not only was he great in Boy A and Red Riding, but I was lucky enough to see him in Death of a Salesman, and he was remarkable in that.
Garfield is nothing special. He doesn't have much range. Always has the same look on his face. And, frankly, his ginormous head and goofy hairdo (the same in every movie) is just offputing. He looks like a bowling ball on a toothpick. He's definitely among the lower tier of actors in his age group -- in terms of acting ability.

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As I said during a previous post a while back I think Lois will be introduced seperately and then have her storyline merge with Clark's. That's different than in the original movie when she was introduced along with Daily Planet Clark.

As we've seen from the old set photos Lois is also in Alaska at some point. I'm guessing she's on the trail of some unsual phenomenom but doesn't actually cross paths with Clark until they're both in Metropolis.
She will be introduced seperately merge with Clark's.That's why I say the Daily Planet scenes will focus on lois.She'll be working at the Daily Planet while clark out in the world tryna find himself and she'll come across him at some point.I really think lois will offer him a job at the Daily Planet.The identity thing will come into play at that point.They might do it like smallville and have lois know clark is superman when he become superman.

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I doubt it will be that long.

Superman Returns took a lot of heat for being too long for WB execs.
Not really, the problem was that it was too long in relation to it's content. There was simply not enough action in it to justify the length, especially for a summer blockbuster. So length itself wasn't an issue but what they did with it was. So there is no reason to believe that Man of Steel will be somehow shorter because SR was long and not successful enough for the studio especially since length cannot negatively effect a movies box office all by itself.

Case in point:

Avatar 162 minutes - 2.78 billion (WW BO)
Titanic 194 min - 2.18 billion
The Avengers 143 min - 1.51 billion
TDK 152 min - 1.004 billion
TDKR 165 min - 1.08 billion
Transformers: Dark of the Moon 154 minutes - 1.12 billion (June release btw, and following the garbage that was Transformers 2...)

And so on.

Green Lantern 114 minutes - 219 million

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Guys, has there been any type of news about the trailer and when it might premiere?
I'm starting to get really impatient.

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Guys, has there been any type of news about the trailer and when it might premiere?
I'm starting to get really impatient.
I doubt that the there will be actual news on the trailer (perhaps if Snyder did/does an interview in the next month) as studios don't usually announce things like trailers. But the trailer will premiere with The Hobbit. That's as 100% sure bet as the teaser with TDKR was. Actually, if WB didn't have The Hobbit coming out next month we'd get the trailer in about a week, as traditionally WB releases the trailers for movies of MOS's type 7 months in advance, give or take a day.

But we should get some official stills soon I'd wager. Again, looking at the obvious pattern from WB all Nolan's Batman flicks got a few of them about 3-4 weeks before the first trailer.

Then again maybe WB wants to deliberately sabotage MOS and you'll get none of that in the near future!

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If it's two and a half hours of entertainment than you can get away with it. Superman Returns was two and half hours of boredom.

Now I don't think you can exceed two and half hours.
I doubt they'll take that kind of risk on this Superman post-SR. A lot of material (costing a lot of money) was cut from SR because it was too long for the execs and the sentiment was that they wanted it even shorter.

This helped make the film less profitable.

There's inevitably going to be much tighter control on the run-time of this film.

My guess is just over two hours.

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This movie will be atlease 2hr and 20min long.Like I said, batmen begins was a 2hr and 20min origin story.Superman the movie was a 2hr 23min origin story.It's silly to think it will be anything less then 2hr and 20min.

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Garfield is nothing special. He doesn't have much range. Always has the same look on his face. And, frankly, his ginormous head and goofy hairdo (the same in every movie) is just offputing. He looks like a bowling ball on a toothpick. He's definitely among the lower tier of actors in his age group -- in terms of acting ability.
Completely disagree, but to each their own.

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