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Old 11-14-2012, 12:10 AM   #751
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Uhh...doubt it.
yeah agreed. I don't think pym, or antman will appear.

Though, will we have some super powered heros in this show as well?

ones that WON'T make it into Avengers 2?

also. how many seasons is this suppose to run?

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As do I. Maybe SHIELD characters like Quake, Mockingbird, Watermain ect

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yeah agreed. I don't think pym, or antman will appear.

Though, will we have some super powered heros in this show as well?

ones that WON'T make it into Avengers 2?

also. how many seasons is this suppose to run?

There's no way of knowing how long the series will run, or even if it will be picked up by the network. The show will probably make the Fall schedule, but there is always the chance that it won't, for any number of reasons.

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There's no way of knowing how long the series will run, or even if it will be picked up by the network. The show will probably make the Fall schedule, but there is always the chance that it won't, for any number of reasons.
They'll have Room(B-Apt 23, Last Resort,666, and Practices already gone) and they have faith and you and I know that pilot episode is gonna do "Walking Dead" numbers or better. Its not a question of if it'll be picked up but how long it'll run. I love Whedon and he and his former Mutant Enemy Staff is gonna put together one Heck of a series.

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Wait, 666 and Last Resort have already been cancelled? Or am I misunderstanding your statement?

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Old 11-15-2012, 10:30 AM   #756
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Wait, 666 and Last Resort have already been cancelled? Or am I misunderstanding your statement?
Not yet but, its inevitable. I should have worded it better.. My bad

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They'll have Room(B-Apt 23, Last Resort,666, and Practices already gone) and they have faith and you and I know that pilot episode is gonna do "Walking Dead" numbers or better. Its not a question of if it'll be picked up but how long it'll run.
This.

SHIELD will have first season. That is a given.

However, this show will hold a relationship with an ongoing film universe. This has never been attempted before. How will SHIELD work in the MCU over the course of several seasons? It's certainly quite an undertaking and it will be incredibly interesting to see how it plays out...

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SHIELD will have first season. That is a given.

However, this show will hold a relationship with an ongoing film universe. This has never been attempted before. How will SHIELD work in the MCU over the course of several seasons? It's certainly quite an undertaking and it will be incredibly interesting to see how it plays out...
This show seems like a pretty safe bet to be picked up. It is a series that ties in with a number of successful movies and fresh off the heels the 3rd highest grossing movie of all time. The creator directed that huge blockbuster and has been the showrunner of several very popular TV series.

Add those factors to the idea that the TV series could potentially see guest spots by some of the stars of the film series and you have a pretty intriguing concept. If they play this right they really could launch additional films from this TV show.

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As do I. Maybe SHIELD characters like Quake, Mockingbird, Watermain ect

Watermain. That's classic.

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This show seems like a pretty safe bet to be picked up. It is a series that ties in with a number of successful movies and fresh off the heels the 3rd highest grossing movie of all time. The creator directed that huge blockbuster and has been the showrunner of several very popular TV series.

Add those factors to the idea that the TV series could potentially see guest spots by some of the stars of the film series and you have a pretty intriguing concept. If they play this right they really could launch additional films from this TV show.
The SHIELD series could be a game changer similar to the integrated universe concept Fiege and company launched with the MCU. The series could be used to enhance public interest in lesser known characters and propel them into the big leagues as the MCU did for Thor, Iron Man and Cap. Though time demands are different in the two media, storylines could potentially flow from small to big screen with season ending cliffhangers being resolved at your local cineplex rather than the following September.

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The SHIELD series could be a game changer similar to the integrated universe concept Fiege and company launched with the MCU. The series could be used to enhance public interest in lesser known characters and propel them into the big leagues as the MCU did for Thor, Iron Man and Cap. Though time demands are different in the two media,storylines could potentially flow from small to big screen with season ending cliffhangers being resolved at your local cineplex rather than the following September.
Negative on that. I want this SHEILD series to co-exist but not directly have to do with the Movies. SHEILD is a large enough organization that they can have different missions then the events currently in the movies. I want to care about these characters and their missions and not have to think too much on what's going on in the Movies and if they're directly are dealing with the Cap,Widow, Hawkeye, etc.

In seasons down the line maybe a mission handed down to the commanding officer on screen from Fury or Hill but thats about it..

I wish for them expand the universe as a whole as there is a whole world outside of the Avengers

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I am very excited about this show but the character descriptions sound horrible.

Fitz-Simmons is a really dumb nickname too for those characters...I hope they get rid of that garbage
I agree about the character descriptions and the cutesy name. Things like this often sound different on paper than they do when seen in context of the finished production. That's what I'm hoping for here.


My problem with it is that I want to see a SHIELD that is the same badass secret organization from the comics, sending its agents on missions that deal with superheroes, super-science and super-villains. It should be heavy on action and science fiction/comic book elements and light on gimmicky humor. Cliched character dynamics don't interest me at all, but I'm getting those vibes from the info we have thus far.

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I agree about the character descriptions and the cutesy name. Things like this often sound different on paper than they do when seen in context of the finished production. That's what I'm hoping for here.


My problem with it is that I want to see a SHIELD that is the same badass secret organization from the comics, sending its agents on missions that deal with superheroes, super-science and super-villains. It should be heavy on action and science fiction/comic book elements and light on gimmicky humor. Cliched character dynamics don't interest me at all, but I'm getting those vibes from the info we have thus far.

It's television. TV shows make or break on character dynamics, gimmicky or no. Far more so than 2-hour movies that can afford to be story-driven. It's the nature of the medium.

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^Exactly. Show me a TV show that's "heavy on action" much less "Heavy on comic book elements."

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^Exactly. Show me a TV show that's "heavy on action" much less "Heavy on comic book elements."
Stargate SG-1? Granted, it has very non-action episodes, but it also has a fairly large number of pretty balls-to-the-wall action episodes.

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^Exactly. Show me a TV show that's "heavy on action" much less "Heavy on comic book elements."
If i remember well every episode of Buffy, Angel, Supernatural and Smallville has had action

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Very true, but would either of you describe those shows to a friend as "heavy on action?" Can you honestly say you watch those shows for the action? There are a LOT of shows that feature an average of one or two fights per episode. Very doable, but the appeal of any fiction show remains in the character interaction and development.

No show can make it without drawing the audience into character interactions, at least, not until they learn to make their action very cheap. This is something Power Rangers has actually done over the years, by using non-union martial artists that can sort of act, filming overseas and reusing Japanese Footage. That's a show I would describe as heavy on action. It sure is light on everything else. And they still can only pull that off for 22 minutes at a time. No one can do that with real actors in the states for a full hour drama. That's why we have "action movies" but not "action shows."

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yeah agreed. I don't think pym, or antman will appear.

Though, will we have some super powered heros in this show as well?

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also. how many seasons is this suppose to run?
There will definitely be super powered heroes in the show...it's SHIELD after all that's what they do lol. And yeah more than likely most won't make it into the movies though they might be referenced every now and then.

And like others have said there's no way in knowing how many seasons a show will run...right now we only have a green light for a pilot so it's not even guaranteed it'll be turned into a show right now. But if the pilot is well received and ratings are good then it will get a full 22 ep season order and run for as long as the ratings are good. I doubt they'll have content trouble with this show since there's so much material to draw from the comics and since it follows an entire organization if an actor wants out of the show they can easily be replaced. SHIELD could be another CSI or Law and Order if done correctly.


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My problem with it is that I want to see a SHIELD that is the same badass secret organization from the comics, sending its agents on missions that deal with superheroes, super-science and super-villains. It should be heavy on action and science fiction/comic book elements and light on gimmicky humor. Cliched character dynamics don't interest me at all, but I'm getting those vibes from the info we have thus far.
I'm sure it will have the elements you're speaking of in it...I mean it's SHIELD no matter what they can't get around superheroes and action because it is literally SHIELD's job to deal with those issues...nothing else. It won't be like Homeland. That said as the others have said TV shows are made, or broken, on the strength of the characters. If they have good action and even a good plot but the characters are crap and their interaction with each other uninteresting the show will tank, there's no way around that. And trust me, there will be A LOT of humor and comedy in it...I expect it to be smart and sophisticated though not "gimmicky" like you suggest. Which actually keeps true to the comic-y stuff you want to see because Marvel comics don't really take themselves too seriously a lot of the time.

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Very true, but would either of you describe those shows to a friend as "heavy on action?" Can you honestly say you watch those shows for the action? There are a LOT of shows that feature an average of one or two fights per episode. Very doable, but the appeal of any fiction show remains in the character interaction and development.

No show can make it without drawing the audience into character interactions, at least, not until they learn to make their action very cheap. This is something Power Rangers has actually done over the years, by using non-union martial artists that can sort of act, filming overseas and reusing Japanese Footage. That's a show I would describe as heavy on action. It sure is light on everything else. And they still can only pull that off for 22 minutes at a time. No one can do that with real actors in the states for a full hour drama. That's why we have "action movies" but not "action shows."
Arrow and TWD are starting to push the limits. And don't underestimate how much money will be pored into this show..we're talking about something that has the potential to pull in upwards of 16-20 million views on a network like ABC with its pedigree, not to mention because it's a "nerdy" comic show the home media sales will be through the roof, along with all the other merchandising. Then there's syndication, where it should also be really successful thanks to the all ages accessibility the show will have. We're talking a certified money printing monster here. On top off all that they already have so many resources and stock CGI that they can use from the films that saving costs on effects won't be hard.


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I have a sinking feeling that this will be more contained than we think with less cameos. :/ but I'd looove to be wrong

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They already said there won't be a lot of cameos if any. I really don't think we'll ever see any of the core Avengers in the show and I'd be surprised if Fury shows up.

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I don't expect to see cameos from "the big guns" of the big screen; but I *do* expect to see comic-book cameos from a lot of C-list and D-list heroes and villains from the Marvel Universe.

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