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This is mainly for American Maid but look if you must... (anybody else may not know what the heck I'm talking about lol)
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To continue on what I said above to American Maid:
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I'll try to say as much as I can outside of spoiler buttons, without actually spoiling anything, so it's not a totally obtuse thread. First comment: LOL Poor Jane!! For anyone following along who is familiar with the various fates Jane has met over the years, the supposition behind the button is kind of in a similar spirit (ie, something magical conveys her out of Thor's life), though quite different from those previous fates in the details. It's an extension of a spoiler that stuntman Andrew Lawden gave in a radio interview, revealed over in the spoilers thread. And, since Jane keeps meeting fates like this, and since various people from Marvel have talked about (comics) Jane as being an important part of (comics) Thor's time on Earth, sometimes suggesting that it's an area of long-standing regret for him, I have to concede that it would be not be completely in conflict with canon to do something like this. As I've said before, I want Jane to be successful and I want her to be happy. Certainly I'd like her to wind up with Thor. (As Izzy, the cafe owner in Thor1, said in a deleted scene, "She could do worse." ) But if that's not to be, I accept that. If forced to choose, I would like her to make a meaningful contribution somewhere in the grand MCU story. It doesn't even have to be part of the Thor story arc. The deal breaker for me (and I'll try not to Hulk out about it, er, this time ) is that the character be treated with dignity.I'm concerned that the proposal seems veering toward undignified, but depending on a bunch of in-between details, maybe they could pull it off. At least it would still be a contribution to the MCU story. Currently, I'd say I'm about 75% certain that Jane stays in the story, and I continue to think that if she stays in the story, there's a 90% chance she'll stay Thor's love interest. This proposal is an example of her staying in the story but not as the love interest. Another would be my understanding of how she shows up in JMS' run--physician to various non-Thor superheroes. I think I'll save the specific reasons why I think Jane remaining Thor's love interest is the most likely outcome for another post, since this one looks like it's going to be pretty long as it is. I will say that I think Natalie Portman has the acting chops to pull off any or all of this. Some comments on the specifics in the propoosal I'll have to hide behind a spoiler button. Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
A couple of thoughts about the spoiler directly. Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:
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Whoa...what the heck have I missed?? If these rumors are true...this is not good...
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There were some rumors (discussed over in the spoilers thread), and then elizah72 proposed a plot scenario that starts with the premise of the rumors and adds new material. So what elizah72 has behind her spoiler buttons is *her* thinking about what could happen (specifically, how *she* thinks Jane could exit Thor's life). I commented that what she proposed is rather similar to any of a number of events that have happened in the books. And there have been any of a number of people on this forum proposing various ways Jane and Thor could part company these past few months. So I thought that characterizing this scenario that elizah72 invented that way would not spoil anything, since I didn't talk about any particulars outside of the spoiler buttons. But again, her plot scenario is not the actual rumor. It's her scenario. (And, as I said, I think Jane stays in the story. As Thor's love interest.) If we have spoiled the actual plot element for you (you'd be able to tell what it is looking at what's behind the buttons) and you did not want to have it spoiled, then I offer my whole-hearted apology. And I will edit all my posts to remove material that you think I shouldn't have put in this thread (and ask elizah72 if she would consider doing the same). Please just let me know, either here or via PM. (PM if you want to talk about specific things.) |
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I dont really see it as undigified at all, I think it would be freakin' cool! lol... I'm kind of excited by the idea now. Keep in mind, they need to have drama, conflict and "meat" as actors call it, to work with and keep things interesting, and keep people entertained. Otherwise the relationship and the movie gets boring fast. This scenario would certainly accomplish making the Jane-Thor story much more interesting and exciting.
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I'm also a little concerned that even having the spoiler buttons here is against the spirit of the forum of having spoilers only in the spoiler thread. As for what this forum is for, some people might want to speculate based only on what has been shown in movies so far, or ask questions like, "In the books, what happened when. . . ." |
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Yes, I share that concern.
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I figure I'd post some gifs of her from the previous film. Granted, while I'm well aware and understand/agree with some of the criticism towards Jane's character, I did like the chemistry between the two.
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I´m with you there. It´s sad that so many criticize their relationship so hard. While not creating a full blown romance, I think almost everybody who´s been in love should know, that two days of knowing someone are more than enough to have a crush on them.
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I'm sure it will be no surprise to read that I agree with you guys LOL! Hopefully they fix the weak parts of Jane's character, or at least reduce them. (Maybe improving those parts could even be a little character arc for Jane.) As I've mentioned in the other threads, given the plot point rumors we've received, I'm having a hard time seeing how they will make progress on the know/like/love conversation that Feige mentioned in his Collider interview. But it will be interesting to see what they do. The other note that I think will be tricky for the filmmakers to get right is this: the events of this movie are at least over a year after Thor1, perhaps 2-2.25 years. So Thor and Jane probably need a little bit more than a crush to sustain their interest in each other long enough to want to bother finding each other in Thor2. But as SimiOfDoom says, it's not a full-blown romance, either. And there are very few details available at present. But I guess they can't let us know everything in advance! |
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Potentially the MCU Cosmic Cube could gain consciousness and become the Beyonder! He can then turn Algrim the strong into Kurse.![]() Quote:
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IT'll be interesting to see Jane's reaction to seeing Thor again, will she be angry its taken him this long to see her again, or will she just be delighted at seeing him? Going to be interesting to see what they go with.
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Speaking as a woman myself, what straight woman would not do what Jane did in Thor given such a hot hunk was so receptive to her advances?
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Maybe a mixture of both. I mean, she feels what she feels, but two years is a long time. And the thinker in her might have wondered, y'know, maybe I read too much into this back then, since he hasn't shown up. She doesn't have the benefit of Heimdall filling her in on what Thor's up to, so she really can't know whether or how much he is thinking about her.
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Yeah, it will be interesting how she reacts after such a long time to seeing him again.
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And yeah; thankfully, Feige did say that they'll actually address the fact that Thor and Jane only knew each other for like three days, thus making them question on what it is that they exactly feel for each other and such. |
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The departure back to Asgard would have been highly televised as well. The first time they meet, I would think she would mention it. It might come up later, too, in the way that huge news events sometimes do. I also think she would have seen the opening of one or both of the portals that brought Loki and Thor respectively to Earth, as she has access to S.H.I.E.L.D.'s satellites and this is the kind of data they are paying her to monitor and analyze. |
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Also, 20 bucks and a bag of yogurt says that we'll see Thor and Jane have the standard "night of passion" scene or the famous "morning after" moment within this film.haha
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![]() I think "morning after" is more likely than "night of passion". |
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Thor and Jane obviously did not have time to fall madly in love, but they were just as obviously madly attracted to each other. The two of them spent long hours talking about Jane's research, which Thor understood, and about Asgard and the Nine Realms, which interested Jane. While the writers made a major mistake in having Thor take place over such a short period of time, the chemistry between Thor and Jane makes it easy for the audience to buy into their longing for one another.
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I don't see what's so hard about buying into "love at first sight"; it's a proven fact of sexual/romantic chemistry, and it happens all the time in romance movies/novels. Some of the greatest romances of all time, both real and fictional, happened with less interaction than Thor and Jane had in the first movie.
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