Zack Snyder's Man of Steel Pt.2

[DrCosmic]

I think if they make Lex the villain, they need to make the story epic, to cement his awesomeness as a villain. A typical hero plot isn't worthy of a cool powerful Superman. It needs to be, like Moriarity/Joker-level.

[Axl Van Sixx]

Originally Posted by DrCosmic

I think if they make Lex the villain, they need to make the story epic, to cement his awesomeness as a villain. A typical hero plot isn't worthy of a cool powerful Superman. It needs to be, like Moriarity/Joker-level.

Exactly. Lex is Superman's arch-nemesis and just like every Batman series needs to feature the Joker at some point, sooner or later Supes has to take on Lex.

Of course, the fact that the character was so overused in the previous movies makes it understandable why he wouldn't make an appearance in MOS. But I think he should be featured in the sequel, either pulling the strings with Metallo (as in TAS) or Parasite, or as a key player in a plot involving Brainiac.

[SpideyFan866]

Originally Posted by Axl Van Sixx

Exactly. Lex is Superman's arch-nemesis and just like every Batman series needs to feature the Joker at some point, sooner or later Supes has to take on Lex.

Of course, the fact that the character was so overused in the previous movies makes it understandable why he wouldn't make an appearance in MOS. But I think he should be featured in the sequel, either pulling the strings with Metallo (as in TAS) or Parasite, or as a key player in a plot involving Brainiac.

Agreed. I would love to see Lex used in a capacity similar to howw he was in Superman: Birthright.

[Tobias]

Originally Posted by EtherMagic

^^^

Agree with that.


Question for me is, what does MOS have to make to be considered a success?


I'd put Success in the $500-$600 Million range (considering it's the 1st of the reboot), Moderate Success between $450-$500 Million, and a huge success anywhere above $700 million.


All this of-course considering the magnitude and anticipation surrounding the movie, and obviously whats expected out of it.


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As I remember WB was looking for Superman Returns to make around 500 million. It was a reboot and so is MOS. My guess then is that WB is looking for 500 million before it will OK an MOS sequel.

However, the rights issue are a cloud over all this. Right now it's not going WB's way so if they lose the rights next year no matter how much MOS makes they won't be able to make a sequel.

It's probably prudent to wait until a resolution of the legal issues before speculating on possible future films.

[EtherMagic]

Originally Posted by Tobias

As I remember WB was looking for Superman Returns to make around 500 million. It was a reboot and so is MOS. My guess then is that WB is looking for 500 million before it will OK an MOS sequel.

However, the rights issue are a cloud over all this. Right now it's not going WB's way so if they lose the rights next year no matter how much MOS makes they won't be able to make a sequel.

It's probably prudent to wait until a resolution of the legal issues before speculating on possible future films.

Personally after going back a reading over the lawsuit, I am with WB. Siegel and Shuster SOLD the rights to the Superman character, now years later the family's, who did nothing to create the Character, want a piece of the pie? In this case the Colonel's family of KFC fame should sue KFC because KFC was so much more successful after he sold it? Yea, ok. It's bull, but WB should just pay up as the Courts ruled. I don't see what gives the Siegel and Shuster estates any kinda rights to receive any rights back come 2013? That Marc Toberoff guy representing S & S estates needs a good boot where the sun don't shine, I really hope he gets whats coming his way.


I'm sure if MOS makes enough money for WB, they should be able to take that profit and use it at the table to settle these "rights" issue's.


Somethings gotta give, I just hope all this is cleared up within the next 2 yrs, that's more then enough time to make something happen.

[Llama_Shepherd]

For Man of Steel 2, I want to see Lex and Brainiac. However, I want a lot of what Brainiac was in the proposed Superman Returns sequel to implemented, if it's not already going to be used for Zod. But ultimately, he is out to destroy Earth. As for Lex, they need to get him right. I want him to be the Lex we see in All-Star Superman. He needs to he driven by jealousy, he spent his entire life in devotion to becoming the best of everything, to becoming the philosophical übermensch, and along comes this alien who was born with all the talents he has to work for, and for that he is hailed as the first son of Metropolis, while Lex is forgotten. What would be a bonus would be if they can put in that scene from Birthright where Lex manages to make contact with Krypton (with Brainiac tech) and Superman can tell his parents he made it safely to Earth, before they die.

[Primal Slayer]

I know a lot of people probably wouldnt want it but I think if this is successful and they do a sequel then they should introduce Kara Zor-El in the 2nd one and do their own take on S/B: Girl From Krypton then they could always spin her off in her own film.

[Llama_Shepherd]

Originally Posted by Llama_Shepherd

For Man of Steel 2, I want to see Lex and Brainiac. However, I want a lot of what Brainiac was in the proposed Superman Returns sequel to implemented, if it's not already going to be used for Zod. But ultimately, he is out to destroy Earth. As for Lex, they need to get him right. I want him to be the Lex we see in All-Star Superman. He needs to he driven by jealousy, he spent his entire life in devotion to becoming the best of everything, to becoming the philosophical übermensch, and along comes this alien who was born with all the talents he has to work for, and for that he is hailed as the first son of Metropolis, while Lex is forgotten. What would be a bonus would be if they can put in that scene from Birthright where Lex manages to make contact with Krypton (with Brainiac tech) and Superman can tell his parents he made it safely to Earth, before they die.

Okay, what I would now like to see would be a movie told from three perspectives in this movie and three villains. Much like what was seen in Batman Begins and The Dark Knight.

The three perspectives would be:
Superman/Clark
Lex Luthor
Either Bizarro or Metallo

And the three villains would be:
Brainiac
Bizarro/Metallo
Lex Luthor

The story of Lex would be much like it is in Lex Luthor: Man of Steel. Like in my quoted post Lex would be genuinely resentful of Superman for what he represents.

The narrative focus of Lex would be a weakened Brainiac contacts Lex and gives him greater technological advancements to make his more, eccentric, ideas work. And his contingency plans to kill Superman (touched upon in the next sequel). In return Brainiac requires a new body (hence either Metallo/Bizarro).

Bizarro/Metallo would be the attempt at a sympathetic story. If it were Metallo I would show him as a man that is entirely courageous and selfless, but injured in battle manipulated into a machine designed to kill Superman. Which he hates as he admired Superman.

Bizarro would be fairly similar, but he would be entirely engineered by Lexcorp. He would be a corporate sponsored Superman.

Over the film either of those characters would slowly see their mind degrading, distorting noble people into dark mirrors of Superman.

Superman's arc would focus on Is he truly even alien or human? And why would he even want to be human or kryptonian? His interaction with Lex and either Bizarro or Metallo would show him a dark face of humanity. A monster who was made by man to kill him or render him obsolete and a self made monster who wants to stand over his bloody corpse no matter what the cost.

His knowledge of Brainiac would show the depths that his biological race would stoop to (Brainiac would be kryptonian) and the atrocities they would commit.

[Gabe99]

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"I'm super psyched. It's really fun," he said of his continued enthusiasm for "Man of Steel." "I have no superhero fatigue."

[Gabe99]

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[Gabe99]

Think Mcfly Think:
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[Gabe99]

WB's Robinov on DC on Film's Future

Originally Posted by Bill "Jett" Ramey

Via EW.COM, here's what Jeff Robinov of Warner Bros. had to say about MAN OF STEEL and the future of DC on film...

Then there's the great David Goyer's take...

OK, my turn...

Mr. Goyer and Mr. Nolan are damn right.

When you start to make a film and you’re already thinking about and planning for what’s next, you’re setting yourself up for creative failure. The fact that Mr. Nolan really did take his Batman films one at a time, and was adamantly (in his own classy “Nolan” way) against the cross-pollination of DC on film, was a bold stance – especially in light of Marvel’s success with everything that involved THE AVENGERS.

I believe that time will prove that Mr. Nolan’s “blueprint” for comic book movies will be the one that’s followed in the future. Why? Because it’s the least creatively restricting path for any filmmaker worth his salt to take.

If you’re a filmmaker who has a comic book movie story to tell, would you really want to be handcuffed by another director’s vision and aesthetic?

Regardless, I have no doubt that if...IF...there there is a Justice League movie in the future, Henry Cavill will play Superman in it. However, I'm betting that we'll see a MOS sequel or two before any JL film.

Don't read anything into Robinov's "They do. Or they did." statement when it comes to Nolan's "Dark Knight Trilogy." It's over folks, period. And if if the studio could use (i.e. "hijack") "Nolan's Batman" in a potential JL film, they won't. Mr. Nolan doesn't want it to happen, thus, it ain't going to happen. Do you really think the studio would piss off Mr. Nolan over a Justice League movie? Please! Batman will be rebooted shortly with a Batman that can fit within a cinematic DC universe. Here's what the author of the EW story had to say...

Absolutely spot-on. Anyway...

Folks, this is Warner Bros. doing some damage control here. Make no mistake, the desire by the studio to have Nolan in charge of DC on film and for Bale to return to the role of Batman was real. The thing simply fell apart for whatever reason (*cough* Nolan doesn't want his "Trilogy" messed with! *cough*) after the possibility was leaked to the press. Now, they're having to tighten things up. Basically, Warner Bros. is circling the wagons by publicly saying that Nolan’s “Dark Knight Trilogy” is safe, Batman on film is going to be rebooted, and there are more DC-based films coming after MAN OF STEEL.

Maybe.

[serendipity]

Does anyone else think the sequel should be titled Man of Tommorow?

[DrCosmic]

It might be, I'd think it more likely to be called "Last Son of Krypton," because, honestly, that's pretty frikking awesome, especially since it'll probably be true in the sequel.