The SuperHeroHype Forums  

Go Back   The SuperHeroHype Forums > Batman > Batman Begins

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-21-2012, 10:25 PM   #51
BatLobsterRises
Lobsterized
 
BatLobsterRises's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: NJ
Posts: 6,711
Default Re: Heroic Archetypes - Batman Begins

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Joker View Post
Definitely. I am a Nolan Batman fan, and I am nothing like those creatures that posted those vitriolic comments. I don't taint all of us with the same brush as them. But there is no excuse for their behavior. In the ten years I've been mixed up on the internet superhero fan bases I've never seen that before.
Thank you, that is all I mean.

__________________
IMAGINE THE FIRE
My TDKR Metal cover
My MOS Trailer 3 score recreation
My take on why there is no "DC Films" Division at WB:
http://forums.superherohype.com/show...&postcount=158
BatLobsterRises is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2012, 11:01 PM   #52
Anno_Domini
Banned User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 17,997
Default Re: Heroic Archetypes - Batman Begins

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fudgie View Post
My heart bleeds for ya.

Maybe if ya stop logging in and out every 5 minutes it might help your head hahaha.
Every 5 minutes? That's an overstatement, lol. Maybe once a hour when I can, but not every 5 minutes, haha.

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Joker View Post
I'm not trying to make a difference, I'm showing you an analogy which equates to what you're saying. You're labeling them both as bad behavior, but bad behavior comes in different extremes.

You equate death threats the same as simple insults just because it's words. Calling someone a fool, and mocking the death of a loved one are both words, too, but one is far more nasty and extreme than the other.

You can write it off as just words as much as you like, I'm just glad RT or any reputable website doesn't treat such behavior so nonchalantly.

It doesn't matter if they are actually going to kill them or not. You keep trying to excuse this disgusting behavior just because the people who did it are too cowardly to follow through on it.
Totally fine if the website treats death threats accordingly by their standards, but if you ask me, a death threat on a site is just as bad as the next 'troll' saying this or that sucks over and over.

And no, you are missing my point. Nowhere am I giving death threats an excuse, am I? You're missing the point when I am just saying death threats are as bad as the general insulting post or comment, especially when I SAY the threats are bad. No excuses from me whatsoever.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fudgie View Post
The point is ain't no fan base has ever behaved like that ever over a movie. Ya can't find one example in movie history of it where dozens of fans went and did that. It had to be a heck of a lot of 'em if they shut down Tomatoes comments section. Fact.

Yup that makes any bunch of fans better than them cos none of 'em ever sunk that low.
You know, I had yet to see a group of fans attacking a reviewer after a negative review. Perhaps it's because I don't follow reviews much, but just saying. It works both ways. That negative review being attacked is the first I've seen of this.

Anno_Domini is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 08:32 AM   #53
Squaremaster316
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 299
Default Re: Heroic Archetypes - Batman Begins

"I'm hesitant to watch this review because I may find this guy and kill him if he pisses me off too much"

Made by an Avengers fan after seeing the trailer of a potentially negative Avengers review on YouTube.

Squaremaster316 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 08:53 AM   #54
The Joker
Clown Prince of Crime
 
The Joker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Jollity Farm
Posts: 37,150
Default Re: Heroic Archetypes - Batman Begins

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anno_Domini View Post
Totally fine if the website treats death threats accordingly by their standards, but if you ask me, a death threat on a site is just as bad as the next 'troll' saying this or that sucks over and over.
Again Anno all I can say is I am very glad the administrations don't write them off as regular every day insults.

Quote:
And no, you are missing my point. Nowhere am I giving death threats an excuse, am I? You're missing the point when I am just saying death threats are as bad as the general insulting post or comment, especially when I SAY the threats are bad. No excuses from me whatsoever.
That's reassuring to know. I was almost seeing you in a different light there for a minute.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Squaremaster316 View Post
"I'm hesitant to watch this review because I may find this guy and kill him if he pisses me off too much"

Made by an Avengers fan after seeing the trailer of a potentially negative Avengers review on YouTube.
Can you find any instances where hundreds of them behaved this way at once over one review? Where it was so bad the reviewer's website and RT were both closed down temporarily over it?

__________________
"Sometimes I remember it one way. Sometimes another. If I'm going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice!"

- The Joker
The Joker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 09:50 AM   #55
Fudgie
Banned User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 2,197
Default Re: Heroic Archetypes - Batman Begins

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anno_Domini View Post
You know, I had yet to see a group of fans attacking a reviewer after a negative review. Perhaps it's because I don't follow reviews much, but just saying. It works both ways. That negative review being attacked is the first I've seen of this.
Take it from moi, you ain't ever gonna find it anywhere except with TDKR. Not the Whedon fans, the Star Wars fans when Lucas made those rotten prequels so many of them hate.

No group of fans ever got together like a bunch of rabid jackals and shut down a website section cos they went ballistic with death threats over one bad review.

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Joker View Post
Can you find any instances where hundreds of them behaved this way at once over one review? Where it was so bad the reviewer's website and RT were both closed down temporarily over it?
I'll save ya the time waiting for an answer and say no. Not gonna happen.

Fudgie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 10:22 AM   #56
Anno_Domini
Banned User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 17,997
Default Re: Heroic Archetypes - Batman Begins

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Joker View Post
Again Anno all I can say is I am very glad the administrations don't write them off as regular every day insults.
And that is definitely their call. But, imo, the first thing I'd do if I had a website that dealt with critics is make sure no one can comment back. From the "innocent" troll to certain death threats. Just take out the problem from the beginning. I see no reason to have comments regarding reviews either.

Quote:
That's reassuring to know. I was almost seeing you in a different light there for a minute.
Lol, I don't see how just because I see nothing coming to fruition from death threats.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fudgie View Post
Take it from moi, you ain't ever gonna find it anywhere except with TDKR. Not the Whedon fans, the Star Wars fans when Lucas made those rotten prequels so many of them hate.

No group of fans ever got together like a bunch of rabid jackals and shut down a website section cos they went ballistic with death threats over one bad review.
But as I said, as TDKR was a sequel and with how Avenger fans attacked one negative review....that doesn't bode well to see how negative reviews will be treated with Avengers 2. You make it seem like Whedon fans will all of a sudden become civilized, lol. We clearly see that's not the case with just ONE negative review.

Anno_Domini is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 10:27 AM   #57
The Joker
Clown Prince of Crime
 
The Joker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Jollity Farm
Posts: 37,150
Default Re: Heroic Archetypes - Batman Begins

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anno_Domini View Post
And that is definitely their call. But, imo, the first thing I'd do if I had a website that dealt with critics is make sure no one can comment back.
Don't you think that is a really sad state of affairs where you can't have a comments section on reviews simply because fans cannot behave themselves?

Quote:
I see no reason to have comments regarding reviews either.
It's the same reason why we have message boards. Discussions of opinions. Reviews are the same thing. Fans like and want to discuss and comment on what these professional critics have to say about the movies. After all it's these reviews that make up the scores on places like RT and Metacritic.

We always have a thread on them here for every new movie. Other websites should be no exception.

Quote:
Lol, I don't see how just because I see nothing coming to fruition from death threats.
It's nothing to do with what comes to fruition, it's the fact that they are the worst kind of behavior. Not on the same level as simple name calling.

If you called someone an idiot, nobody would be giving you any medals for it. But if you threatened to kill someone for it, you'd be seen as the worst kind of fan. And rightfully so.

__________________
"Sometimes I remember it one way. Sometimes another. If I'm going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice!"

- The Joker
The Joker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-22-2012, 10:53 AM   #58
Anno_Domini
Banned User
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 17,997
Default Re: Heroic Archetypes - Batman Begins

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Joker View Post
Don't you think that is a really sad state of affairs where you can't have a comments section on reviews simply because fans cannot behave themselves?
It's sad, yes, but those kinds of comments are much worse when it comes to single reviews than forums/message boards, so I think it's best to take out comments completely, such as RT.

Quote:
It's the same reason why we have message boards. Discussions of opinions. Reviews are the same thing. Fans like and want to discuss and comment on what these professional critics have to say about the movies. After all it's these reviews that make up the scores on places like RT and Metacritic.

We always have a thread on them here for every new movie. Other websites should be no exception.
But with forums/message boards, you have differing opinions from among your peers, not people going after a critic or in some instances, a top critic, such as the differing areas on RT.

Quote:
It's nothing to do with what comes to fruition, it's the fact that they are the worst kind of behavior. Not on the same level as simple name calling.

If you called someone an idiot, nobody would be giving you any medals for it. But if you threatened to kill someone for it, you'd be seen as the worst kind of fan. And rightfully so.
And that's fine and your opinion, and while I think death threats are as bad as you can get as well, it's still just a bad comment to make as bad as a 'This [singer] or [actor] should die' kind of comment. They're all in bad taste for sure, but it's just something that you have to deal with in a normal basis. Certain types of people are just hateful.

Anno_Domini is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2012, 09:03 PM   #59
BatmanBeyond
Future Dark Knight
 
BatmanBeyond's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Neo-Gotham
Posts: 1,411
Default Re: Heroic Archetypes - Batman Begins

Quote:
Originally Posted by BatLobsterRises View Post
I don't even get the point of this argument. Some Avengers fans got out of line...some TDKR fans got out of line in an even more extreme way...
QFT.

I can't believe you guys actually hijacked Nave's thread with this pointless debate about which fanbase is worse (TDKR or Avengers), even though both have sections that have shown a propensity for reacting unreasonably to criticism directed at the respective movies.

On-topic, I've been following your articles on the JusticeBulletin, Nave and all I can say is well-done. The amount of thought, detail and patience you've clearly put into this is astounding (and a testament to how these films make you stop and ponder) and I can't wait to see your articles on TDK and TDKR.

__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gotham's Knight View Post
When you're a show that has the writer of The Dark Knight, Jesus, Ben Linus and produced by JJ Abrams, it's hard to get cancelled.
Cracked.com's Bat Battle: http://www.cracked.com/article_15029...ie-batman.html
BatmanBeyond is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:18 AM.

monitoring_string = "dee460792f24517621e3ca080805de7e"
Contact Us - Mobile - SuperHeroHype - ComingSoon.net - Shock Till You Drop - Lost Password - Clear Cookies - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Top - AdChoices


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SuperHeroHype.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.