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Tobey's spidey held up a cable car full of kids one handed hanging from a single strand of web
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Correct me if I am wrong because I don't remember too well, but I don't think that they showed Spidey actually leaving the bridge. He could have been swinging to another car, but there would be no reason to show him checking every car dangling from the bridge. Also, I think the cops were on the way, so they probably would have gotten there in time to save people.
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I just assumed there wasn't anyone left in any of the cars. Everyone got out of their cars and ran away.
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Then why bother to save the cars while a giant Lizard is rampaging somewhere else?
I don't remember well, but maybe that scene should have been a little longer.
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Dr. Ratha was definitely still in the limo when the lizard knocked it over the edge of the bridge but we never see the lizard attack the limo again once it goes over because he was already turning human again at that point, so we don't really know the fate of Dr. Ratha one way or the other. If we go by the deleted scenes it does appear that the lizard did get Dr. Ratha at some point but since those scenes were cut out are we going to have to pretend that they didn't really take place?
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in the previsualizations the police arrived when spidey left
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Then it baffles me to wonder why Peter webbed up the vehicles if they were empty. Who cares about empty vehicles when he could spend that time and focus on this giant lizard instead?
Let alone, no, Spidey was not a wanted man by then. Only after that did Captain Stacy say Spider-Man was now wanted. |
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Why is it so baffling for Spidey to save the cars? Two of them were occupied and it's quite possible the others were as well. He didn't know they were or weren't but better to error on the side of caution. No? Yeah, I think so. It wasn't until after saving the kid that none of the other cars appeared to be occupied. Ratha is unconcious and no one else was calling for aid. |
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What would've been smarter if Spidey just webbed up the vehicle(s) when someone was actually still in them. |
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actually, he wasn´t certain the cars were empty ,the police was comming right after he saved Jack so he had to leave because he was known for the car thief thing Stacy was out for him before the Bridge scene because one of the Stacy kids asks "Did you catch spider-guy yet?"
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No matter how you want to define 'wanted' or 'after him' makes no difference. Peter was aware that the police were trying to catch him and he was definitely on their radar. This was made evident from the car thief scene and later reinforced by Capt Stacy's words at dinner. Unofficially they were attempting to obtain Spider-man and probably using a low-level amount of police to work on the case. That is, until the bridge incident where Stacy makes an official announcement because they believe Spidey to be a real threat. Now the police would use a greater amount of resources to try and catch him. Spidey is swinging into the scene and doesn't know if the cars are occupied. Like I said, he errs on the side of caution and webs up the cars. One man screams for someone to save his kid. Spidey sees that the Lizard is leaving the scene after he was kicked. Spidey saves the kid. No one else is either screaming for help to save a loved one/family member/friend or even a stranger trapped nor anyone screaming from inside one of the cars. There's no proof that they were occupied. The police were on scene and Spider-man hanging around would have cause more issues. That's how I see it. |
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And with the case of Dr. Ratha...they could be knocked out and not scream for help, lol. I just see the scene as the way I view that crane scene in Spider-Man 3. Spidey should have done more than what we see in the scene, and he didn't.
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yeah, the difference here Spiderman wasn´t friendly to the police eyes,they were trying to get him, if the the poilce sees him they would´ve start shooting at him, and yeah, the police is comming just after he saved jack that´s why he left you can hear it in the scene when he says "Im Spiderman"
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It seems to me that some people are just looking for reasons to hate on the film. First, Peter is "dumb" because they think he bought the web fluid directly from Oscorp...and now since the film doesnt explicitly show the cars to be empty, people are automatically thinking theyre full of senior citizens and children, whom spidey irresponsibly leaves to hang for their lives. Has ANYONE thought of this: if Webb intended for there to be more people that needed Spideys immediate help, that he would have shown Spidey saving them? If there were more innocent people who needed immediate aid, and Spidey didn't help them, that would totally undermine the entire point of the scene, which is Peter realizing that e needs to use his powers to help people instead of getting revenge.
And not grabbing Ratha doesn't really count (he already saved him by webbing the car) because he's a villan and we're either supposed to assume that he died in the fall, or that his fate is intentionally not shown. But based on the deleted footage we know at one point he was meant to have lived, which means that Spidey left knowing the police were able to retrieve Ratha. All that being said, one could always argue that any other people being saved happened off camera, and that the kid was just the focus. *shrugs* |
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The little boy was the focus of that scene. They showed him being saved, and then cut to him swinging away. The obvious implication was that the people in the other cars (if there were any) got saved through other means.
He didn't let them dangle and fall into the river because the film did not address his webbing dissolving after an hour. As a matter of fact I'd argue that the whole '1 hour' time limit from the comics was not carried over into this movie for a good bit of reasons. I also don't know how we're saying he was 'stronger' in the Raimi film when we have next to nothing to compare that to. Just because he didn't perform feats of strength like he did in the previous trilogy doesn't mean the character isn't capable of it, just that there was no need to demonstrate the ability to do so in this film. They are definitely focusing more on his agility and speed, but there's not a conscious attempt on their part to downplay the character's tremendous strength. Last edited by Juicy J; 11-23-2012 at 01:03 AM. |
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And it was difficult to call Dr. Ratha a villain when he only tried to do one bad move with testing the serum that never did come to fruition, lol. |
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