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Old 11-21-2012, 03:02 PM   #51
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Its possible that the Mandarin, wearing the rings, could be in control of Fin Fang Foom. Which looks to be depicted in the background here...
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Maybe we'll see FFF, maybe not. Im just saying that it could make sense and give the rings purpose. Regardless of actually seeing FFF in action or not. What do you think? Has there been any speculation on a possible appearance of FFF? Maybe a post credit scene FFF is awoken!?!

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Old 11-23-2012, 05:48 PM   #52
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Fin! Fang! Foom! are the words Ben Kingsley as The Mandarin will use when he introduces himself to Iron Man, timed to a 3 punch shadow-box routine.

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Old 11-24-2012, 08:31 AM   #53
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well Oracle is a real company, maybe they helped finance IM2 slightly, people might be looking to far into it

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Old 11-24-2012, 01:07 PM   #54
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Personally I hate the idea of sentient armor in this movie. I would greatly prefer that they leave the sentient Armor / Robot idea for Ultron to make him more unique, as well as that they give the credit for the technology to the proper character (PYM).

I think what I would rather see is that Tony has the extremis virus and is still trying to adjust to this new technology which connects his thoughts to his armor. So, I feel like during sleep he would still continue to control the suit, on a subconscious level.

Also, to me I feel like the part where the suit is crouched over Tony and the part where the suit is crouched over Pepper in the bed could very well be part of the same scene, except that the part where the suit is crouched over Tony he is actually in this subconscious nightmare (where perhaps he does believe the armor has a life of it's own), meanwhile in the conscious world Pepper sees Tony is having a nightmare and tries to wake him as the Armor is more or less performing the thoughts that Tony is having in the nightmare, except not quite perfectly. We already know Tony at first has trouble adjusting to the virus and using the extremis armor, as was previously shown in the picture of the hall of armors with the broken glass and helmet knocked off, so to me this scenario makes the most sense.

Just my thoughts of course though.

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I'm with ya here. However, it certainly seems like a way to itroduce ultron. idk, I mean, with all this speculation, some of roger wardells tweets about Ultron leading the masters of evil starts to make sense :P

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Maybe Mandarin stole tech from the Chitauri leviathans and will make a giant Fin Fang Foom mech suit to battle Iron Man in.

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I wouldn't bet on it.

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Old 11-25-2012, 10:39 AM   #57
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Maybe Mandarin stole tech from the Chitauri leviathans and will make a giant Fin Fang Foom mech suit to battle Iron Man in.
You would need to bio engineer a Leviathan clone. They and Chitauri foot soldiers were most organic. The cybernetic parts where most likely added to power and control them.

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Maybe Mandarin stole tech from the Chitauri leviathans and will make a giant Fin Fang Foom mech suit to battle Iron Man in.
...because nothing says "real life villain that would be scary to real life people" better than a giant Fin Fang Foom...

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Old 11-25-2012, 06:11 PM   #59
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...because nothing says "real life villain that would be scary to real life people" better than a giant Fin Fang Foom...
really? you must be lacking some serious imagination if you don't think Fin Fang Foom would be a terrifying sight irl.




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truthfully, i think the Fin Fang Foom tableau depicted behind Kingsley in the photo is nothing but a fan service (like Yggdrasil in CA:TFA). I was merely spitballing. Is that okay with everyone?

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truthfully, i think the Fin Fang Foom tableau depicted behind Kingsley in the photo is nothing but a fan service
That would be more than OK with me. I think one of the most intelligent decisions in the Ironman scripts was the way they edited out all fantasy/over-the-top Sci-Fi and came up with a purely techno story that general audiences could get behind (and still had enough fanservice for the fans to be content). Compare a terrorist group called "10 rings" to a villain who actually has a red scull for a face. IŽd bet you big money that one was a big no-no to many casual viewers.

On that note, I hope the rings are there either as a tie-in with the 10 rings from IM1, or as a glorified electronic key to some cutting edge tech. And please, no dragons .

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truthfully, i think the Fin Fang Foom tableau depicted behind Kingsley in the photo is nothing but a fan service (like Yggdrasil in CA:TFA). I was merely spitballing. Is that okay with everyone?
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That would be more than OK with me. I think one of the most intelligent decisions in the Ironman scripts was the way they edited out all fantasy/over-the-top Sci-Fi and came up with a purely techno story that general audiences could get behind (and still had enough fanservice for the fans to be content). Compare a terrorist group called "10 rings" to a villain who actually has a red scull for a face. IŽd bet you big money that one was a big no-no to many casual viewers.

On that note, I hope the rings are there either as a tie-in with the 10 rings from IM1, or as a glorified electronic key to some cutting edge tech. And please, no dragons .
I hope they explain the rings as a token/gift given to The Mandarin from each of 10 terrorist organizations in third world countries (only one of which was controlled by Raza in IM1). Giving him the power of each. Making him arguably more powerful than if they shot out laser beams and ice blasts.


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Old 11-26-2012, 06:08 AM   #64
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I'm with ya here. However, it certainly seems like a way to itroduce ultron. idk, I mean, with all this speculation, some of roger wardells tweets about Ultron leading the masters of evil starts to make sense :P
I wouldn't say that Ultron will lead them like Wardell said... I mean I'm not even vaguely sure about this aspect. But I can definitely see Ultron coming into this very quickly. Especially if Szostak isn't revealed to be
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Pym, not Tony, may already be sort of lost in space and time and part of GoTG... His movie may be set in two time periods, with Pym and Lang, but Pym from the 80's has been lost by the end of the film... meaning he traveled forwards in time a little bit because of some subatomic particle manipulation and hitching a ride on neutrinos. Janet ends up where they meant to... the present (around the time of IM3)... not a dimension between time and space.
Pym may currently be trapped in the middle of knowwhere... Shield took his stuff. He was never heard from again and wright's script is taking longer than usual but can fit in wherever... Pym's role in guardians of the Galaxy may be a cameo that sets up Avengers 2 for him. He may even be yellow in the movie, and a pacifist who has a ray-gun connected to the microverse that's non-lethal. i.e. He's already sending bad guys to a makeshift prison 42 after they get to knowwhere when we meet him. And the future guardians cameo/interact with the 21st century guardians and help him set up a prison in between dimensions. This will be important for some of the masters and any other villains.


Janet begins to work with Shield in-between the movies until Avengers 2, and these are our major connecting characters alongside Thanos for a lot of what's going on in the after credits. In my theory Ultron may only overthrow and enslave the masters, killing some of them, because he wants to be the one at the top killing and enslaving humanity. The masters would be Leader, Red Skull, Enchantress/Executioner, The Mandarin, Crossbones, Loki (in a way) and Ultron + Immortus overseeing things/assembling the masters against 21st century Earth and Thanos.

Thanos is still there. But the Other informs him to wait until the masters tear themselves apart and the heroes and villains almost lose Earth to Ultron. Immortus had a plan to take Thanos out of the timeline and secure the Mandarin's 21st century Empire and his future Empire... unfortunately Ultron wound up in the 31st century with Kang/Immortus because Ant Man started crawling around in between the fabric of reality (Kang may pretty much only be referred to as Immortus and may be the true villain in the Ant Man movie after Pym almost makes himself big again). Immortus assembles the masters and retrieves Red Skull from space in the 40's. He acquires the Ultron prototype in the 80's and the 31st century accidently becomes an age of Ultron. Ultron wants control of all the Empires Immortus is running across time and space, concentrated in the present with the masters and the remnants of the 10 rings, AIM/Hydra + future Sterns and Enchantress. Future Sterns would be a huge dick and a way to lead into another Hulk movie at some point in the future. This is a sterns who is already fully transformed and completely in control of the future he comes from... He doesn't like the fact that he's suddenly taking orders from the other power hungry masters, and being almost led to kill his past self by Enchantress...
It seems like a lot of pieces but Pym and Janet will be the only new Avengers and Hawkeye's gone. Someone else dies in the opening attack and Black Widow's past as a double agent catches up with her. She may not really be in it unless they use Zemo instead of Skull. I can see miss Marvel showing up in the end if GoTG goes a certain way that includes many past and future characters.
Instead of a superhero team eventually coming together, Avengers 2 would be about a massive super villain team quickly falling apart because of each villain's desire to be the sole leader, ruler, king, dictator, emperor, conqueror, enchantress, or over-thrower of humanity... Only the Titan and Ultron make it through on the villain side, but Immortus, Leader and Loki can return. People like Abomination, Zemo and Leader's hulklings are seen in Prison 42 at the end.


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Old 12-17-2012, 05:42 PM   #65
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They could be trying to be deceiving on purpose, but the rings don't look particularily magical or technological to me.

I'm also subscribing to the the theory that they're only meant to be symbolic, and maybe the Mandarin injects himself with the Extremis virus in order to go toe-to-toe with Iron Man.

Like in Sherlock holmes like the main villain in the first one was proven to be a fake. All his magic and all he did were just cheap tricks.

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I'm gonna go with a more symbolic meaning. I think if The Mandarin has all of the powers he typically has from the comics, Stark would be hard pressed to defeat him on his own. Then again, he's got Rhodey, Pepper(maybe?), and 40 other armors, so who knows? I would rather see the magic come out, and maybe it could set the stage for Dr. Strange and some others, but I doubt that's what we'll get.

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They're there because they're a part of the character. Even if they will not do anything.

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They're probably representative of his ten wives.

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I really hope the rings have some sort of alien tech element. With the Avengers they have already established beings that are not of earth so I don't think it would seem silly to the general audience.

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They won't. It's aklready been said they wont

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Thought it was hinted it could go either way? They actually said the rings won't have ANY powers at all?

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"Those are just ordinary rings, Mandarin...the power was in you all along!"

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Thought it was hinted it could go either way? They actually said the rings won't have ANY powers at all?
Feige rules out aliens. He's also said that we shouldn't go expecting fire rays or ice rays from them either, but still says the rings will be the source of his power, though whether that rules out any sort of power from them or not is another matter.

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Feige rules out aliens. He's also said that we shouldn't go expecting fire rays or ice rays from them either, but still says the rings will be the source of his power, though whether that rules out any sort of power from them or not is another matter.
yeah, they ruled out alien origin. Which makes sense, cause almost everything has been alien related lol.

Though I am sure they will have some powers to them.

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